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China executed 13 people for “terrorist attacks” in the far western region of Xinjiang, state media said, while a further three were sentenced to death for staging a lethal attack in Tiananmen Square in Beijing.

“The 13 criminals had planned violent terrorist attacks and ruthlessly killed police officers, government officials and civilians, which took innocent lives, caused huge property losses and seriously endangered public security,” the official news agency Xinhua said.

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tzor wrote:Chinese Government Gets Sick of Islamic Violence And Executes 13 Muslim Jihadists

China executed 13 people for “terrorist attacks” in the far western region of Xinjiang, state media said, while a further three were sentenced to death for staging a lethal attack in Tiananmen Square in Beijing.

“The 13 criminals had planned violent terrorist attacks and ruthlessly killed police officers, government officials and civilians, which took innocent lives, caused huge property losses and seriously endangered public security,” the official news agency Xinhua said.

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Chinese paramilitary special forces used flamethrowers to smoke terror suspects out of their hiding place in a cliffside cave during a recent counterterrorism operation in the far western Xinjiang region, the military’s official newspaper said on Monday.

The troops had been hunting “dozens of terrorists who had fled to the Tianshan Mountains after brutally killing civilians over a month ago,” the report said, without specifying where and when the operation took place.

The report came on the back of a recent confirmation by Xinjiang official news outlet Ts.cn that 16 people, including three police officers, were killed after a group of suspected terrorists attacked a coal mine in the border prefecture of Aksu in mid-September.

The confirmation of the Aksu coal mine attack came shortly after terror attacks rocked the heart of Paris on November 13.

Radio Free Asia, which first reported the coal mine attack, said more than 50 people were killed and another 50 injured. It was directed by an overseas extremist group, according to Ts.cn.

One suspect surrendered while the remaining 28 were killed during the manhunt.

On Monday, the military newspaper revealed that the terror suspects had robbed police of their firearms during the Aksu attack and had gone into hiding in a cave by a cliff in the Tianshan Mountains.

The troops tracked down the suspects after a 10-hour search of five mountains, the report said.

Armed police threw waves of tear gas and stun grenades into the cave but failed to draw the suspects out. As evening approached, an officer ordered the use of flamethrowers – a weapon that sprays out burning fuel.

The flamethrowers proved effective, as more than 10 knife-wielding terror suspects emerged from the cave, rushing towards the troops. They were shot dead at the scene, the report said. Helicopters as well as counterterrorism armoured vehicles were dispatched to assist in the operation, according to the website.

mrswdk wrote:Flamethrower used to flush out militants in China’s Xinjiang region

Chinese paramilitary special forces used flamethrowers to smoke terror suspects out of their hiding place in a cliffside cave during a recent counterterrorism operation in the far western Xinjiang region, the military’s official newspaper said on Monday.

The troops had been hunting “dozens of terrorists who had fled to the Tianshan Mountains after brutally killing civilians over a month ago,” the report said, without specifying where and when the operation took place.

The report came on the back of a recent confirmation by Xinjiang official news outlet Ts.cn that 16 people, including three police officers, were killed after a group of suspected terrorists attacked a coal mine in the border prefecture of Aksu in mid-September.

The confirmation of the Aksu coal mine attack came shortly after terror attacks rocked the heart of Paris on November 13.

Radio Free Asia, which first reported the coal mine attack, said more than 50 people were killed and another 50 injured. It was directed by an overseas extremist group, according to Ts.cn.

One suspect surrendered while the remaining 28 were killed during the manhunt.

On Monday, the military newspaper revealed that the terror suspects had robbed police of their firearms during the Aksu attack and had gone into hiding in a cave by a cliff in the Tianshan Mountains.

The troops tracked down the suspects after a 10-hour search of five mountains, the report said.

Armed police threw waves of tear gas and stun grenades into the cave but failed to draw the suspects out. As evening approached, an officer ordered the use of flamethrowers – a weapon that sprays out burning fuel.

The flamethrowers proved effective, as more than 10 knife-wielding terror suspects emerged from the cave, rushing towards the troops. They were shot dead at the scene, the report said. Helicopters as well as counterterrorism armoured vehicles were dispatched to assist in the operation, according to the website.

waauw wrote:

mrswdk wrote:Flamethrower used to flush out militants in China’s Xinjiang region

Chinese paramilitary special forces used flamethrowers to smoke terror suspects out of their hiding place in a cliffside cave during a recent counterterrorism operation in the far western Xinjiang region, the military’s official newspaper said on Monday.

The troops had been hunting “dozens of terrorists who had fled to the Tianshan Mountains after brutally killing civilians over a month ago,” the report said, without specifying where and when the operation took place.

The report came on the back of a recent confirmation by Xinjiang official news outlet Ts.cn that 16 people, including three police officers, were killed after a group of suspected terrorists attacked a coal mine in the border prefecture of Aksu in mid-September.

The confirmation of the Aksu coal mine attack came shortly after terror attacks rocked the heart of Paris on November 13.

Radio Free Asia, which first reported the coal mine attack, said more than 50 people were killed and another 50 injured. It was directed by an overseas extremist group, according to Ts.cn.

One suspect surrendered while the remaining 28 were killed during the manhunt.

On Monday, the military newspaper revealed that the terror suspects had robbed police of their firearms during the Aksu attack and had gone into hiding in a cave by a cliff in the Tianshan Mountains.

The troops tracked down the suspects after a 10-hour search of five mountains, the report said.

Armed police threw waves of tear gas and stun grenades into the cave but failed to draw the suspects out. As evening approached, an officer ordered the use of flamethrowers – a weapon that sprays out burning fuel.

The flamethrowers proved effective, as more than 10 knife-wielding terror suspects emerged from the cave, rushing towards the troops. They were shot dead at the scene, the report said. Helicopters as well as counterterrorism armoured vehicles were dispatched to assist in the operation, according to the website.

Well I've got to hand it to China, they're dealing with the issue in style.
flame throwers = cool

Symmetry wrote:Points to question-

Armed police carry flamethrowers?
On a ten hour mountain search? It says the use of flamethrowers was eventually ordered, not that the flamethrowers were lugged around for 10 hours
How do they not know how exactly many terrorists emerged? The report that was publicly released said more than 10, for whatever reason. I highly doubt that means that the people on the scene were incapable of counting up the number of bodies accurately.
Were they on fire and knife-wielding? Probably not

mrswdk wrote:Points to question-

Armed police carry flamethrowers?
On a ten hour mountain search? It says the use of flamethrowers was eventually ordered, not that the flamethrowers were lugged around for 10 hours
How do they not know how exactly many terrorists emerged? The report that was publicly released said more than 10, for whatever reason. I highly doubt that means that the people on the scene were incapable of counting up the number of bodies accurately.
Were they on fire and knife-wielding? Probably not]

notyou2 wrote:Tzor, what is the Chinese government doing to minorities to cause the minorities to extremism action? Why are they so dissatisfied with life they have become terrorists?

mrswdk wrote:

notyou2 wrote:Tzor, what is the Chinese government doing to minorities to cause the minorities to extremism action? Why are they so dissatisfied with life they have become terrorists?

Was your first reaction after that soldier got killed in Canada 'what has the Canadian government done to provoke this incident'? Or after 9/11 were you straight in there asking what America did to provoke 9/11?
I still find it mind boggling that people still believe The U.S "provoked" 9/11. It's laughable almost. It was a horrific tragedy, don't get me wrong, but if you still believe 30 Arab men high jacked multiple planes and smashed them into the pentagon and the WTC then you're looking at it from a one-sided view. Research, and I mean really research as much as you can stand. Read and watch personal interviews, look at official government documents, and try not to be so biased. It's all out there for you to find the real truth, you just have to have the want to know, and the ability to look different angles.

mrswdk wrote:

notyou2 wrote:Tzor, what is the Chinese government doing to minorities to cause the minorities to extremism action? Why are they so dissatisfied with life they have become terrorists?

Was your first reaction after that soldier got killed in Canada 'what has the Canadian government done to provoke this incident'? Or after 9/11 were you straight in there asking what America did to provoke 9/11?

I know why there are groups in Xinjiang who engage in terrorism, but I'm not going to tell unless I can believe you aren't just going to twist it into a stick to beat China with

notyou2 wrote:Tzor, what is the Chinese government doing to minorities to cause the minorities to extremism action? Why are they so dissatisfied with life they have become terrorists?

Is it ideological or fundamental human rights creating the problem? Do you think the Chinese government fears organized religion?

Why would you a Christian say "Bravo" to a godless government? Those Muslims worship the same god you do.

Have you ever noticed that almost everything you do is un-Christian? And you claim to be a Blue Knight, or some other Catholic affiliated group, as well?

You are a racist bigot like Trump.

notyou2 wrote:

notyou2 wrote:Tzor, what is the Chinese government doing to minorities to cause the minorities to extremism action? Why are they so dissatisfied with life they have become terrorists?

Is it ideological or fundamental human rights creating the problem? Do you think the Chinese government fears organized religion?

Why would you a Christian say "Bravo" to a godless government? Those Muslims worship the same god you do.

Have you ever noticed that almost everything you do is un-Christian? And you claim to be a Blue Knight, or some other Catholic affiliated group, as well?

You are a racist bigot like Trump.

Still awaiting a response tzor.
At least respond to why you are cheering a godless government over people that pray to the same god as you, and is that a Christian thing to do?

notyou2 wrote:Still awaiting a response tzor.

One of the most interesting commentaries on the subject was published in 1956 in, of all things, a children’s book. C.S. Lewis addressed the possibility of finding common ground with Islam in The Last Battle, the final book in The Chronicles of Narnia. Lewis doesn’t use the term “Islam” and “Christianity” in his fictional account, but it’s quite obvious to an adult reader that the Narnians are meant to represent Christians, and their enemies, the Calormenes, are meant to represent Muslims. For those in doubt on this point, the Islamic nature of Calormene society is more fully established in Lewis’s earlier book, The Horse and His Boy.

Lewis’s story provides some much needed perspective on the question of whether Christians and Muslims worship the same God. The quandary for Christians is that, although the Allah of Islam is different in major respects from the Christian concept of God, no one wants to deny Muslims a place among the family of believers. After all, Muslims profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and many are undeniably sincere in their desire to serve God. Saying that they don’t worship the one God sounds too much like saying that their prayers are wasted. Thus, a good many Christians resolve the quandary by ignoring the theological difficulties and focusing instead on the worthy acts and prayers of Muslims.

But that doesn’t mean that Calormenes can’t be sincere seekers of God. One character in the story that stands out is Emeth, a young Calormene officer who has sought to serve Tash all his days, and whose great desire is “to know more of him.” Emeth’s nobility is so evident that one of the Narnians remarks that “he is worthy of a better God than Tash.”

When Emeth finally encounters the true God, Aslan, he is abashed at his former service to Tash. Here is his narration:

But I said, Alas Lord, I am no son of thine but the servant of Tash. He answered, Child, all the service thou hast done to Tash, I account as service done to me… Not because he and I are one, but because we are opposites, I take to me the services which thou hast done to him. For I and he are of such different kinds that no service which is vile can be done to me, and none which is not vile can be done to him. Therefore if any man swear by Tash and keep his oath for the oath’s sake, it is by me that he has truly sworn, though he know it not, and it is I who reward him. And if any man do a cruelty in my name, then, though he says the name Aslan, it is Tash whom he serves and by Tash his deed is accepted.

tzor wrote:

notyou2 wrote:Still awaiting a response tzor.

I didn't think it was worth a response.

And I still don't think it is worth a response.

I do find it interesting that you seem so keen to distance the "godless" government (really, they just only want state control over religion ... didn't Henry VIII want the same thing) from Christianity while at the same time equating Christianity with Islam. I can't express how much I disagree with your assertions. "Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." To even suggest that Islam worships the same triune God as Christians is the height of stupidity.

Who is the liar? Who has denied that Jesus is the Christ? Who is the one to whom God speaks after the fact? Who is the one to who lays down the laws and grants himself the exception to those laws? Who is the one who built his faith on "submission?"

Last time I checked, China isn't currently invading Europe trying to get them all to submit to the will of the great pedeophile.

Let me make this one point absolutely clear. According to Islam, I am a filthy polytheist because I believe in the Trinity and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. I will not insult a Muslim by insisting that I worship the same God he does and I will not likewise consider his "god" the same as the God revealed through Jesus Christ. I suppose I need to pull out the big guns here Do Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God?

One of the most interesting commentaries on the subject was published in 1956 in, of all things, a children’s book. C.S. Lewis addressed the possibility of finding common ground with Islam in The Last Battle, the final book in The Chronicles of Narnia. Lewis doesn’t use the term “Islam” and “Christianity” in his fictional account, but it’s quite obvious to an adult reader that the Narnians are meant to represent Christians, and their enemies, the Calormenes, are meant to represent Muslims. For those in doubt on this point, the Islamic nature of Calormene society is more fully established in Lewis’s earlier book, The Horse and His Boy.

Lewis’s story provides some much needed perspective on the question of whether Christians and Muslims worship the same God. The quandary for Christians is that, although the Allah of Islam is different in major respects from the Christian concept of God, no one wants to deny Muslims a place among the family of believers. After all, Muslims profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and many are undeniably sincere in their desire to serve God. Saying that they don’t worship the one God sounds too much like saying that their prayers are wasted. Thus, a good many Christians resolve the quandary by ignoring the theological difficulties and focusing instead on the worthy acts and prayers of Muslims.

But that doesn’t mean that Calormenes can’t be sincere seekers of God. One character in the story that stands out is Emeth, a young Calormene officer who has sought to serve Tash all his days, and whose great desire is “to know more of him.” Emeth’s nobility is so evident that one of the Narnians remarks that “he is worthy of a better God than Tash.”

When Emeth finally encounters the true God, Aslan, he is abashed at his former service to Tash. Here is his narration:

But I said, Alas Lord, I am no son of thine but the servant of Tash. He answered, Child, all the service thou hast done to Tash, I account as service done to me… Not because he and I are one, but because we are opposites, I take to me the services which thou hast done to him. For I and he are of such different kinds that no service which is vile can be done to me, and none which is not vile can be done to him. Therefore if any man swear by Tash and keep his oath for the oath’s sake, it is by me that he has truly sworn, though he know it not, and it is I who reward him. And if any man do a cruelty in my name, then, though he says the name Aslan, it is Tash whom he serves and by Tash his deed is accepted.

tzor wrote:

notyou2 wrote:Still awaiting a response tzor.

I didn't think it was worth a response.

And I still don't think it is worth a response.

I do find it interesting that you seem so keen to distance the "godless" government (really, they just only want state control over religion ... didn't Henry VIII want the same thing) from Christianity while at the same time equating Christianity with Islam. I can't express how much I disagree with your assertions. "Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." To even suggest that Islam worships the same triune God as Christians is the height of stupidity.

Who is the liar? Who has denied that Jesus is the Christ? Who is the one to whom God speaks after the fact? Who is the one to who lays down the laws and grants himself the exception to those laws? Who is the one who built his faith on "submission?"

Last time I checked, China isn't currently invading Europe trying to get them all to submit to the will of the great pedeophile.

Let me make this one point absolutely clear. According to Islam, I am a filthy polytheist because I believe in the Trinity and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. I will not insult a Muslim by insisting that I worship the same God he does and I will not likewise consider his "god" the same as the God revealed through Jesus Christ. I suppose I need to pull out the big guns here Do Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God?

One of the most interesting commentaries on the subject was published in 1956 in, of all things, a children’s book. C.S. Lewis addressed the possibility of finding common ground with Islam in The Last Battle, the final book in The Chronicles of Narnia. Lewis doesn’t use the term “Islam” and “Christianity” in his fictional account, but it’s quite obvious to an adult reader that the Narnians are meant to represent Christians, and their enemies, the Calormenes, are meant to represent Muslims. For those in doubt on this point, the Islamic nature of Calormene society is more fully established in Lewis’s earlier book, The Horse and His Boy.

Lewis’s story provides some much needed perspective on the question of whether Christians and Muslims worship the same God. The quandary for Christians is that, although the Allah of Islam is different in major respects from the Christian concept of God, no one wants to deny Muslims a place among the family of believers. After all, Muslims profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and many are undeniably sincere in their desire to serve God. Saying that they don’t worship the one God sounds too much like saying that their prayers are wasted. Thus, a good many Christians resolve the quandary by ignoring the theological difficulties and focusing instead on the worthy acts and prayers of Muslims.

But that doesn’t mean that Calormenes can’t be sincere seekers of God. One character in the story that stands out is Emeth, a young Calormene officer who has sought to serve Tash all his days, and whose great desire is “to know more of him.” Emeth’s nobility is so evident that one of the Narnians remarks that “he is worthy of a better God than Tash.”

When Emeth finally encounters the true God, Aslan, he is abashed at his former service to Tash. Here is his narration:

But I said, Alas Lord, I am no son of thine but the servant of Tash. He answered, Child, all the service thou hast done to Tash, I account as service done to me… Not because he and I are one, but because we are opposites, I take to me the services which thou hast done to him. For I and he are of such different kinds that no service which is vile can be done to me, and none which is not vile can be done to him. Therefore if any man swear by Tash and keep his oath for the oath’s sake, it is by me that he has truly sworn, though he know it not, and it is I who reward him. And if any man do a cruelty in my name, then, though he says the name Aslan, it is Tash whom he serves and by Tash his deed is accepted.

notyou2 wrote:Oh, by the way Tzor, Muslims also believe in Jesus, he is a prophet to them just like Mohammad you closed minded moron. Jews also share your god. Do you claim they worship a different god than you as well?

tzor wrote:

notyou2 wrote:Oh, by the way Tzor, Muslims also believe in Jesus, he is a prophet to them just like Mohammad you closed minded moron. Jews also share your god. Do you claim they worship a different god than you as well?

Jesus appears in their holy texts only as either a prop or as something to make a point against. Ironically the person who has the most attention in Islamic texts from the Christian "New Testament" is ... Mary.

Mohammad is not considered "just like" Jesus. Insult Jesus and a Muslim won't chop your head off. Insult Mohammad and they will.

Jews would insist that their view of God is vastly different from Christian's view of God.

Now if someone believes that "car" looks like a Dodge Stratus and another believes that "car" looks like a Toyota Prius, do they believe in the same "car?"

Symmetry wrote:

tzor wrote:

notyou2 wrote:Oh, by the way Tzor, Muslims also believe in Jesus, he is a prophet to them just like Mohammad you closed minded moron. Jews also share your god. Do you claim they worship a different god than you as well?

Jesus appears in their holy texts only as either a prop or as something to make a point against. Ironically the person who has the most attention in Islamic texts from the Christian "New Testament" is ... Mary.

Mohammad is not considered "just like" Jesus. Insult Jesus and a Muslim won't chop your head off. Insult Mohammad and they will.

Jews would insist that their view of God is vastly different from Christian's view of God.

Now if someone believes that "car" looks like a Dodge Stratus and another believes that "car" looks like a Toyota Prius, do they believe in the same "car?"

Which Islamophobic website did you get your info from?

notyou2 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

tzor wrote:

notyou2 wrote:Oh, by the way Tzor, Muslims also believe in Jesus, he is a prophet to them just like Mohammad you closed minded moron. Jews also share your god. Do you claim they worship a different god than you as well?

Jesus appears in their holy texts only as either a prop or as something to make a point against. Ironically the person who has the most attention in Islamic texts from the Christian "New Testament" is ... Mary.

Mohammad is not considered "just like" Jesus. Insult Jesus and a Muslim won't chop your head off. Insult Mohammad and they will.

Jews would insist that their view of God is vastly different from Christian's view of God.

Now if someone believes that "car" looks like a Dodge Stratus and another believes that "car" looks like a Toyota Prius, do they believe in the same "car?"

Which Islamophobic website did you get your info from?

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