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http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ Holy Poop thats not Vaporware. I want one.

my great uncle is going through beta testing for that thing...and he already has one ordered...they are amazing...

I saw that thing a week ago. That doesn't make it any less amazing.

I don't get it.

I just see a black screen after many refreshes. Can you just tell me what it is?

basically...its a table that is like a computer (as far as i understand)...it does things like pictures, but it can also be a restaurant's menu, and you can just touch the screen to order...you can plan trips on it (useful for a hotel lobby) and other stuff...if you set stuff on it (like phones) it'll tell you all about them and stuff...and compare them if its more then one item on there...

So, Microsoft is making a touch screen table. So? That stuffs been around for a long time.

sheepofdumb wrote:So, Microsoft is making a touch screen table. So? That stuffs been around for a long time.

actually...its the most advanced version of 'that stuff'...but i'm going to be quiet now, before i completely sound like i'm selling the stuff, instead of only kinda sounding like it like i do now...

sheepofdumb wrote:So, Microsoft is making a touch screen table. So? That stuffs been around for a long time.

To me it doesn't look like just a touch screen table... Looks lime it can do a lot more than what the old ones can

sheepofdumb wrote:So, Microsoft is making a touch screen table. So? That stuffs been around for a long time.

It's a PC in a table. Not just "touch screen stuff."

*cough* remember it is sheep of dumb you are talking to...

Sheep is also a mac user.

No really, They plans for that require Microsoft to meddle in everyones business for it to be compatible with their products. There's no way for a table, touch screen or otherwise to recognize a cup when it's placed on it unless the cup had a chip in it. Or pay the bill by placing your credit card on the table. No one will want to go along with Microsoft to place chips in their products just so it'll be compatible with an oversized touch screen. They will also have to make it so user friendly that people will want to buy it. I don't want to be fighting the touch screen to do things. Yes I realize that this is the announcement for a project that will stretch on for a long time into the future. They have plans that are too far fetched and grand. It's possible, but too grand.

This sums up all my feelings about the Mac, and Mac users

sheepofdumb wrote:Sheep is also a mac user.

No really, They plans for that require Microsoft to meddle in everyones business for it to be compatible with their products. There's no way for a table, touch screen or otherwise to recognize a cup when it's placed on it unless the cup had a chip in it. Or pay the bill by placing your credit card on the table. No one will want to go along with Microsoft to place chips in their products just so it'll be compatible with an oversized touch screen. They will also have to make it so user friendly that people will want to buy it. I don't want to be fighting the touch screen to do things. Yes I realize that this is the announcement for a project that will stretch on for a long time into the future. They have plans that are too far fetched and grand. It's possible, but too grand.

Sweet jesus! How on earth can long term goals be reached?!

This is the same guy who commercialized the computer. I trust him with this invention as well. Just because Zune fucked up doesn't mean this will. I think that in the same way car companies have IPod integration, credit cards will have Surface integration.

There were products that made it so you could play your ipod on your cars speakers. There wasn't a feature monopoly set up by Apple. For Microsoft to get any money out of this they will need this table to come with a butt load of things that are compatable with it. Making it desirable.

s.xkitten wrote:This sums up all my feelings about the Mac, and Mac users

Allow me to debunkThis.

1. Maybe you should get a mac so you can lose some weight, Fatty.

2. The only idiots mac has to deal with are the idiot ex-PCer's who fear their computer crashing. I've kept my mac up and running without shutting it down for a few years straight. Excluding the times the power went out or I moved my computer.

3. What are you talking about??? Really I have no idea what this mean. (Number two on the page) What's this about hands? A lot of people use thier hands when they talk. Maybe you should broaden your horizens and go to Italy. Having an effel tower in your back yard with the Itailian flag on is not the same thing.

4. (2.5 on the page because this idiot can not figure out how to number his induvidual points) Macs are availible to everyone and they are easy to use. I'm a computer geek. I should know how to get my way around any computer right? One time I was using the school computer and I swear, I could not find the damn help. When I needed help it was no where to be found. Pancake can vouch for this because he was there laughing at my pain. Yes, Apple made the mac look more like a fun, useful toy for artist people. I'm not an artist. At all. My mac serves me fine. I do everything I want to do with it and it never chokes up on me.

5. (2.75, he still didn't get that if you add numbers you need to every idea if you number one idea) Yes, there are communities. Everyone is apart of one these days. If your aren't apart of one, what are you doing on these forums? Get lost you anti-social loser.

6. Itunes doesn't work because you screwed it up, idiot, shows what you know. If you are one of those PC gods and it screwed itself up somehow then you should know how to fix it. Quicktime is popular because the quality is great. Unlike real which had the quality of Windows media player and wasn't really endorsed by Microsoft or Apple.

7. If the EULA has to have a section telling you not to use itunes to make nukes then that just means Itunes is more kickass than anything you have.

8. Stop with the anti mac parodies you retard, they only go to show how much of a n00b you are

Mind you this was all directed at the way you gelt and the idiot who wrote this.

Now it's my turn to ask you some questions.

1. What program does windows have that can allow you to edit movies from your home camera? It has to come with the OS.

2. Where was your one click search feature before Vista? If I recall you had to open a window, go find the side bar that had the search feature on it, specify your seach and after all that, you found what you were looking for. Mac had the command F keystroke, sherlock on OS 9, and now spotlight. Unless there is a keystroke that I'm not away of it is a pain in the ass to search for something on windows.

3. Admit it. Mac's are 1337 and safari pwns explorer.

sheepofdumb wrote:Sheep is also a mac user. I don't want to be fighting the touch screen to do things.

So your against the I-Phone as well I assume...

I never had any interest in the Iphone. Maybe if it got great reviews and works well...

sheepofdumb wrote:

s.xkitten wrote:This sums up all my feelings about the Mac, and Mac users

Allow me to debunkThis.

1. Maybe you should get a mac so you can lose some weight, Fatty.

2. The only idiots mac has to deal with are the idiot ex-PCer's who fear their computer crashing. I've kept my mac up and running without shutting it down for a few years straight. Excluding the times the power went out or I moved my computer.

3. What are you talking about??? Really I have no idea what this mean. (Number two on the page) What's this about hands? A lot of people use thier hands when they talk. Maybe you should broaden your horizens and go to Italy. Having an effel tower in your back yard with the Itailian flag on is not the same thing.

4. (2.5 on the page because this idiot can not figure out how to number his induvidual points) Macs are availible to everyone and they are easy to use. I'm a computer geek. I should know how to get my way around any computer right? One time I was using the school computer and I swear, I could not find the damn help. When I needed help it was no where to be found. Pancake can vouch for this because he was there laughing at my pain. Yes, Apple made the mac look more like a fun, useful toy for artist people. I'm not an artist. At all. My mac serves me fine. I do everything I want to do with it and it never chokes up on me.

5. (2.75, he still didn't get that if you add numbers you need to every idea if you number one idea) Yes, there are communities. Everyone is apart of one these days. If your aren't apart of one, what are you doing on these forums? Get lost you anti-social loser.

6. Itunes doesn't work because you screwed it up, idiot, shows what you know. If you are one of those PC gods and it screwed itself up somehow then you should know how to fix it. Quicktime is popular because the quality is great. Unlike real which had the quality of Windows media player and wasn't really endorsed by Microsoft or Apple.

7. If the EULA has to have a section telling you not to use itunes to make nukes then that just means Itunes is more kickass than anything you have.

8. Stop with the anti mac parodies you retard, they only go to show how much of a n00b you are

Mind you this was all directed at the way you gelt and the idiot who wrote this.

Now it's my turn to ask you some questions.

1. What program does windows have that can allow you to edit movies from your home camera? It has to come with the OS.

2. Where was your one click search feature before Vista? If I recall you had to open a window, go find the side bar that had the search feature on it, specify your seach and after all that, you found what you were looking for. Mac had the command F keystroke, sherlock on OS 9, and now spotlight. Unless there is a keystroke that I'm not away of it is a pain in the ass to search for something on windows.

3. Admit it. Mac's are 1337 and safari pwns explorer.

why do ppl have to brag about what they use? ppl should just buy what they think they want and enjoy it. Not enjoying it by showing off and arguing which product is better, but enjoying it because it gives them what they want in that category of products...

the same goes for this surface argument. If you're interested, then buy it when it comes out. If not, don't preach about how much it will probably suck, just stfu. I personally think surface will be awesome so I will try to get one when it comes out, but I won't yell out about how much awesomer it is than any other device (besides maybe my old pc )

Hey sheep, where are all the games on the macintosh?

BTW you can yell at me when I get my touchscreen

Looks pretty damn awesome. I'm sure it will come in particularly handy in restaurants and hotels but for now I see no reason to have it in my home.

sheepofdumb wrote:

s.xkitten wrote:This sums up all my feelings about the Mac, and Mac users

Allow me to debunkThis.

1. Maybe you should get a mac so you can lose some weight, Fatty.

Actually, this thing's right about you.

sheepofdumb wrote:2. The only idiots mac has to deal with are the idiot ex-PCer's who fear their computer crashing. I've kept my mac up and running without shutting it down for a few years straight. Excluding the times the power went out or I moved my computer.

But there are still problems with it right? Come on, you've encountered at least one problem with your computer over the years.

sheepofdumb wrote:3. What are you talking about??? Really I have no idea what this mean. (Number two on the page) What's this about hands? A lot of people use thier hands when they talk. Maybe you should broaden your horizens and go to Italy. Having an effel tower in your back yard with the Itailian flag on is not the same thing.

What are YOU talking about?

sheepofdumb wrote:4. (2.5 on the page because this idiot can not figure out how to number his induvidual points) Macs are availible to everyone and they are easy to use. I'm a computer geek. I should know how to get my way around any computer right? One time I was using the school computer and I swear, I could not find the damn help. When I needed help it was no where to be found. Pancake can vouch for this because he was there laughing at my pain. Yes, Apple made the mac look more like a fun, useful toy for artist people. I'm not an artist. At all. My mac serves me fine. I do everything I want to do with it and it never chokes up on me.

You searched something along the lines of "Take picture" not "Take Screenshot"

sheepofdumb wrote:5. (2.75, he still didn't get that if you add numbers you need to every idea if you number one idea) Yes, there are communities. Everyone is apart of one these days. If your aren't apart of one, what are you doing on these forums? Get lost you anti-social loser.

Of course there are communities. Look at us. We're discussing OSs on a Risk related website. People don't just buy computers and become part of some freakish cult.

sheepofdumb wrote:6. Itunes doesn't work because you screwed it up, idiot, shows what you know. If you are one of those PC gods and it screwed itself up somehow then you should know how to fix it. Quicktime is popular because the quality is great. Unlike real which had the quality of Windows media player and wasn't really endorsed by Microsoft or Apple.

Hmm... I don't think you responded to his point. He said you needed Quicktime to use iTunes, not that it's as bad as Real...

sheepofdumb wrote:7. If the EULA has to have a section telling you not to use itunes to make nukes then that just means Itunes is more kickass than anything you have.

Do it. Make a nuclear weapon with iTunes. I dare you.

sheepofdumb wrote:8. Stop with the anti mac parodies you retard, they only go to show how much of a n00b you are

See point 2.

sheepofdumb wrote:Mind you this was all directed at the way you gelt and the idiot who wrote this.

Now it's my turn to ask you some questions.

1. What program does windows have that can allow you to edit movies from your home camera? It has to come with the OS.

Windows Movie Maker

sheepofdumb wrote:2. Where was your one click search feature before Vista? If I recall you had to open a window, go find the side bar that had the search feature on it, specify your seach and after all that, you found what you were looking for. Mac had the command F keystroke, sherlock on OS 9, and now spotlight. Unless there is a keystroke that I'm not away of it is a pain in the ass to search for something on windows.

F1 key opens the search window. And don't tell me it's a pain to type out what you need to search for.

sheepofdumb wrote:3. Admit it. Mac's are 1337 and safari pwns explorer.

*cough*Firefox*cough*

chewyman wrote:Looks pretty damn awesome. I'm sure it will come in particularly handy in restaurants and hotels but for now I see no reason to have it in my home.

Yeah, I agree with that chewy. If for no other reason than the ability to split the check more easily...lol. But over time, that technology will trickle down to more pertinent things in our own lives, I believe. I really like the way it can recognize other objects and interact with them.

sheepofdumb wrote:There's no way for a table, touch screen or otherwise to recognize a cup when it's placed on it unless the cup had a chip in it. No one will want to go along with Microsoft to place chips in their products just so it'll be compatible with an oversized touch screen.

I read how Surface works, and it uses infrared scanners underneath the table. This means it could probably sense the beveridge glass on the table just by the shape and temperature.

...without any wifi-chip

static_ice wrote:why do ppl have to brag about what they use? ppl should just buy what they think they want and enjoy it. Not enjoying it by showing off and arguing which product is better, but enjoying it because it gives them what they want in that category of products...

the same goes for this surface argument. If you're interested, then buy it when it comes out. If not, don't preach about how much it will probably suck, just stfu. I personally think surface will be awesome so I will try to get one when it comes out, but I won't yell out about how much awesomer it is than any other device (besides maybe my old pc )

QFFT
Quote For Fucking Truth...


i don't give a f*ck what kind of PC, operating system, whatever the f*ck you have...if you like it, great...if you don't, say you don't, and shut up...its really not that hard to just not say anything...

i don't hate Macs, or anything...i hate how Mac people won't shut the f*ck up about it...

*sigh* i'm done ranting now...