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Ice cold crickets

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:20 am
by reverend_kyle
Check out my band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQj4a6LZ2kE


This is my band's first recording ever, we used a karaoke machine which oddly enough added some distortion and also we used my moms pocket pc to record it off that and get it on the computer. Even though we don't have the best equipment we really wanted to get our sound out there, and this is what we came up with.


You can check us out on myspace here

Despite the difficulties and poor equipment, I think we're pretty good.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:23 am
by chessplaya
congrats...Cheers to ur 1st concert

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:29 am
by reverend_kyle
thanks

Re: Ice cold crickets

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:02 am
by 2dimes
reverend_kyle wrote:This is my band's first recording ever, we used a karaoke machine which oddly enough added some distortion.
It will have a vocal processor with extensive effects. The effects should change according to the song.

If you have a less expensive unit and don't have a song selected I'm not sure what effects are choosen or if you can change them.

Some of the real high end units will actually change the tones of a voice to match the artist that recorded the version of the song you are performing.

That's partly why sometimes you will have a person that gets real good at singing Karaoke yet be pretty bad at singing without the machine.

The higher end ones will sometimes also be adjustable, so the person running it can remove some of the affects to let a better singer's natural tones come through.

This is also why recording artists seek out particular engineers to record them. Once you have a rough CD completed it can take weeks or in the case of one Def Leopard CD years to have effects added.

Sometimes you have a band use someone particular and they end up sounding a lot like other bands recorded by that person.

The effects on that song work pretty good with it. Kind of wolf mother sounding to me, a modern take (partialy digital) on the seventies natural tubes being overdriven distortion, which partially developed from guys turning up their guitar amps too loud.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:59 am
by reverend_kyle
We used DJ's digitech to get better guitar recordings and now its really bad for vocal's, but UCAbears said we actually weren't to bad so I figure our new songs are worth a listen. Quiet Tragedy is more of a ballad type and its the first song of ours where the lyrics weren't written by our normal lyric writer. It was also recorded the day it was written, but we are quite proud of it.

You should check it out.

http://www.myspace.com/icecoldcrickets69

don't worry its not a lemon party and is safe to click on.

Just sayin.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:05 am
by reverend_kyle
not just trying to bump but just added a 4th song and getting a music store up.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:33 am
by 2dimes
RK wrote:We used DJ's digitech to get better guitar recordings and now its really bad for vocal's,


That's where splitting tracks comes in. If you record vocals seperate from the guitar then you can use different effects for each to make them both as good as they can get.

In the old days (ten years ago etc.) you would have a wider tape with several recording/play back heads. eg. 8 for 8 track recorders (Lenny Kravitz still uses that kind of thing, he actually purchased all the equipment from Abby road or some studio the beattles used and installed it in his studio.) The sound engineer would record the raw tape with little to no effects and add effects to them as he mixed them down to two tracks to make a final stereo recording. Now you can use the same concept only instead of physically splitting tracks the soft ware does it virtually.

You can use a seperate microphone for each track if you want to use them all at once and record all the tracks live. Or you can use a board with as many microphones as you need to mix them for say drums where you might use several mics to place all the drum kit on a selected single track.

If you seperated the recording of each thing you could record the first track usually drums for tempo keeping. Then play back the recorded tracks while recording the next part on a new track. Sometimes this would ruin a great live song because you would not be playing it live with everyone else in the band.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:41 pm
by Minister Masket
reverend_kyle wrote:not just trying to bump but just added a 4th song and getting a music store up.


Excuse me Reverend, I have a confession to make...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:29 pm
by reverend_kyle
2dimes wrote:
RK wrote:We used DJ's digitech to get better guitar recordings and now its really bad for vocal's,


That's where splitting tracks comes in. If you record vocals seperate from the guitar then you can use different effects for each to make them both as good as they can get.

In the old days (ten years ago etc.) you would have a wider tape with several recording/play back heads. eg. 8 for 8 track recorders (Lenny Kravitz still uses that kind of thing, he actually purchased all the equipment from Abby road or some studio the beattles used and installed it in his studio.) The sound engineer would record the raw tape with little to no effects and add effects to them as he mixed them down to two tracks to make a final stereo recording. Now you can use the same concept only instead of physically splitting tracks the soft ware does it virtually.

You can use a seperate microphone for each track if you want to use them all at once and record all the tracks live. Or you can use a board with as many microphones as you need to mix them for say drums where you might use several mics to place all the drum kit on a selected single track.

If you seperated the recording of each thing you could record the first track usually drums for tempo keeping. Then play back the recorded tracks while recording the next part on a new track. Sometimes this would ruin a great live song because you would not be playing it live with everyone else in the band.


that is actually what we did, but the problem with the digitech is it has no effects or lack of effects for vocals which makes it near impossible to have good sounding vocal tracks.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:05 pm
by 2dimes
reverend_kyle wrote:actually what we did, but the problem with the digitech is it has no effects or lack of effects for vocals which makes it near impossible to have good sounding vocal tracks.
So can you run the vocals through the karaoke machine (or some other precessor with effects) before they get to the digitech?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:41 pm
by reverend_kyle
2dimes wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:actually what we did, but the problem with the digitech is it has no effects or lack of effects for vocals which makes it near impossible to have good sounding vocal tracks.
So can you run the vocals through the karaoke machine (or some other precessor with effects) before they get to the digitech?


I'm not sure if the karaoke machine has 1/4" outputs, because I don't have any xlr cords. or xlr microphones which would solve all my problems.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:54 pm
by 2dimes
Decent xlr cords are not much more than 1/4inchers. Go invest in your future.

The mic might be a different story. e-bay?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:59 pm
by reverend_kyle
2dimes wrote:Decent xlr cords are not much more than 1/4inchers. Go invest in your future.

The mic might be a different story. e-bay?


well on samedaymusic we found a mic and stand for like $15 and we were planning on ordering possibly a pa so we could get free shipping, we just are both broke since i've been nearly out of work for a month and getting very little hours and am just starting a steady job and he quit his job because he's lazy.


On another note we got a music store up so if you like our stuff you should support us its only $1 and you would be helping a band get started.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:05 pm
by 2dimes
reverend_kyle wrote:i've been nearly out of work for a month and getting very little hours and am just starting a steady job and he quit his job because he's lazy.


On another note we got a music store up so if you like our stuff you should support us its only $1 and you would be helping a band get started.
They can carry their own stinkin' drywall down the stairs kind of thing? I'm farmiliar, currently I don't need any gear but I didn't send that letter requesting an audition to Todd either.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:22 pm
by reverend_kyle
2dimes wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:i've been nearly out of work for a month and getting very little hours and am just starting a steady job and he quit his job because he's lazy.


On another note we got a music store up so if you like our stuff you should support us its only $1 and you would be helping a band get started.
They can carry their own stinkin' drywall down the stairs kind of thing? .


exactly.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:57 pm
by reverend_kyle
lol, the store is now completely up and ready for use.

so please buy songs :)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:33 pm
by UCAbears
I think their pretty good.. better than my band at this point..I'll post where u can listen to us when we get it up..

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:46 am
by luns101
Good luck to you Kyle...don't let anyone discourage you from putting out your sound. Hope you find a lead singer that can compliment the rest of you.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:51 am
by reverend_kyle
thanks luns

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:10 pm
by beezer
I could definitely listen to your music while I'm driving to work. Nice! 8)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:14 pm
by reverend_kyle
thanks.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:59 am
by 2dimes

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:09 pm
by 2dimes

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:11 pm
by DAZMCFC
rev i listened to it, but my wife said it is shit. me i don`t know. what music genre would you say it was. :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:28 pm
by reverend_kyle
we never figured that out the lead guitar was too much of a cock we broke up.