Redcoat Dawn

[Jenos Ridan]

Anyone ever watch Red Dawn or read the book. Anyway, I took the sarcastic premise of 'the US needs to be fixed' thread that was on a while back and gave it a hypothetical scenario:

How would one invade the US? With only the combined might of the UK, Austrailia, New Zealand and Canada? No outside aid other than typical peacetime trade and the UN is out due to absent ambasadors, abstaining nations and not motion on the issue until after the fact. We'll leave the 'Britification' of Americans to a later thread.

Any takers?

[Jenos Ridan]

............?

[diddle]

let the thread die

[Jenos Ridan]

let the thread die

Ok then, since nobody seems to think it is possible.

[diddle]

let the thread die

Ok then, since nobody seems to think it is possible.

or you could change the subject of the thread and talk about something different

[Jenos Ridan]

let the thread die

Ok then, since nobody seems to think it is possible.

or you could change the subject of the thread and talk about something different

Any Ideas? and the idea originally was to make a non-serious strategic plan. This is what 'Armchair Generals' do, hypothesize.

[diddle]

let the thread die

Ok then, since nobody seems to think it is possible.

or you could change the subject of the thread and talk about something different

Any Ideas? and the idea originally was to make a non-serious strategic plan. This is what 'Armchair Generals' do, hypothesize.

none at all, thats your problem

[Jenos Ridan]

let the thread die

Ok then, since nobody seems to think it is possible.

or you could change the subject of the thread and talk about something different

Any Ideas? and the idea originally was to make a non-serious strategic plan. This is what 'Armchair Generals' do, hypothesize.

none at all, thats your problem

Then fine.

[chewyman]

Yup, this simply ain't possible. I suppose if Aus and NZ sent all their SAS and launched a coup in Washington long enough that it might be possible to nick the US' nuclear weapons codes and fire them on the rest of the US.

[autoload]

let the thread die

[Jenos Ridan]

Yup, this simply ain't possible. I suppose if Aus and NZ sent all their SAS and launched a coup in Washington long enough that it might be possible to nick the US' nuclear weapons codes and fire them on the rest of the US.

Interesting, but messy. The idea was to take the country whole in order to bring the US into the Commonwealth. Now, normally force is a bad selling agent but this is the premise. Notice, I'm not taking a "America can't ever lose, so GFY you limey fruits!" stance but more of a "let us see how this could work" thing.
Looking back at the movie, the Soviets launched a massive parachuntist attack to seize the mountain passes in the Rockies, along with major rail junctions and airports I gather. All co-ordinated with a precision, but limited, nuke launch on D.C. among other centers. The rest of the 'war' (since it was fiction) was conventional. I feel that plan is workable, but one would have to move fast.

[EvilPurpleMonkey]

If things keep going the way the way are right now, In 15 years, all you'd have to do to start a revolution in the US would be to suggest it to someone who is charismatic, and would make a good leader ( Not good as in morals, good as in skilled.) to do it. However, I would rather not have this happen. I will elaborate, if asked to.

[pancakemix]

let the thread die

[Jenos Ridan]

If things keep going the way the way are right now, In 15 years, all you'd have to do to start a revolution in the US would be to suggest it to someone who is charismatic, and would make a good leader ( Not good as in morals, good as in skilled.) to do it. However, I would rather not have this happen. I will elaborate, if asked to.

If you feel up to it, go for it. I'm certain some here don't care much for this thread, but then, since when did I start caring about conforming to some unspoken social rule set in place here?

A 'good' leader. More proper to say, a Machiavellian leader.

[Iliad]

GFY

[Jenos Ridan]

GFY

Oh, I'm sorry, did I offend you again ? Well, 'tuff and 'nuff said.

[Iliad]

GFY

Oh, I'm sorry, did I offend you again ? Well, 'tuff and 'nuff said.

No this thread is pretty pointless and will soon get spammed.

[Jenos Ridan]

GFY

Oh, I'm sorry, did I offend you again ? Well, 'tuff and 'nuff said.

No this thread is pretty pointless and will soon get spammed.

That would be that, other than playing RISK, nobody here seems to know all that much about war. I could well be wrong and this is my way of finding out, by asking hypothetical battles and wars. I'd like to hear your opinion on how to proceed.

[Iliad]

GFY

Oh, I'm sorry, did I offend you again ? Well, 'tuff and 'nuff said.

No this thread is pretty pointless and will soon get spammed.

That would be that, other than playing RISK, nobody here seems to know all that much about war. I could well be wrong and this is my way of finding out, by asking hypothetical battles and wars. I'd like to hear your opinion on how to proceed.

Proceed what?

[Jenos Ridan]

GFY

Oh, I'm sorry, did I offend you again ? Well, 'tuff and 'nuff said.

No this thread is pretty pointless and will soon get spammed.

That would be that, other than playing RISK, nobody here seems to know all that much about war. I could well be wrong and this is my way of finding out, by asking hypothetical battles and wars. I'd like to hear your opinion on how to proceed.

Proceed what?

read the OP. How would be go about it, baring nukes.

[chewyman]

Hypothetical situations are all well and good, but this one is highly unlikely. The Commonwealth armies are no match for the second largest, most technological armed forces in the world. Even if you take out nuclear weapons the only option would be guerrilla warfare.

[Bertros Bertros]

Infiltrate say McDonalds and Wendys and first add some secret ingredient, I know real meat maybe, that made their (I use the following word with the loosest possible meaning) food even more irresistible to you guys and watch half the population gorge themselves to death... Then it would be time to add something like ground glass to the burgers, that would do for another 25% and the rest of the US would turn in on itself in a mass litigious frenzy as everybody looks for a piece of the lawsuit action... at which point we could sail over the pond having a few glasses of Pimms on the way with a brass band to play Rule Brittania and have ourselves a jolly nice tea party. And we wouldn't even need the Aussies, Kiwis and Canadans to help...

[Jenos Ridan]

Chewieman, good points. In fact, I just did a little more research; the total troop count is definately not high enough. However, the events depicted in the 1984 film were to an extent possible, if inspired with an aim to promote a "Go USA, Go" feeling.

New Senario: Battle of Midway with Nimitz Carriers .