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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:30 am
by Jafnhár
This is the first poll of two ones I am going to make about these matters. Please post your thoughts, if any.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:32 am
by Skittles!
I don't believe all opinions should be respected. Most, but not all. Like if someone's opinion is that Men are more superior to Women, then I disagree with that. Another example, if one believes that one race is more superior to one other, then I disagree.

Other than that, I respect most opinions of what you believe, other than the things above.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:36 am
by Guilty_Biscuit
Opinions are harmless,

But when someone voices or acts on an opinion you strongly disagree with then you have every right to vomit in disgust before jamming a large trout up their arse .

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:47 am
by Jafnhár
Skittles! wrote:I don't believe all opinions should be respected. Most, but not all. Like if someone's opinion is that Men are more superior to Women, then I disagree with that. Another example, if one believes that one race is more superior to one other, then I disagree.

Other than that, I respect most opinions of what you believe, other than the things above.


But where do you put the barriers?

Few agree with the ideology of nazism today and there are few nazis, but before WW2, some people could have said that nazis's opinions should be respected just like the opinions of everyone else.

In the future, a vast majority of people might believe that eating animals is wrong. Do the accepted opinions in the society just change with time?

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:54 am
by Skittles!
Jafnhár wrote:
Skittles! wrote:I don't believe all opinions should be respected. Most, but not all. Like if someone's opinion is that Men are more superior to Women, then I disagree with that. Another example, if one believes that one race is more superior to one other, then I disagree.

Other than that, I respect most opinions of what you believe, other than the things above.


But where do you put the barriers?

Few agree with the ideology of nazism today and there are few nazis, but before WW2, some people could have said that nazis's opinions should be respected just like the opinions of everyone else.

In the future, a vast majority of people might believe that eating animals is wrong. Do the accepted opinions in the society just change with time?


I don't really have barriers, I know what's right, and what's wrong, and so judge on that. I do not believe the majority is right, as it sometimes isn't.

I believe the majority of accepted opinions in society would change in time, as new things are developed, new things are brought from under the covers. If eating meat turned out to be wrong, then I do not know how many people that only eat meat would survive in a world like that. Sure, people adapt, but changing your whole diet because the majority think that eating meat is wrong? I probably wouldn't kill myself if that happened, but it would be hard to change that. If they cancelled red meat, I could live with that, as I could still eat Chicken and such. With my wonderful sushi.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:22 am
by Jafnhár
It was just an example I thought of since it is a common belief that all opinions that don't trash one's rights (in this case animals) are OK. There are, however so many accepted things in the world that do. It might be argued that forcing one to pay his taxes, for one, is against his rights, since one has the right to do what one want with his money. Most people still think that taxes are good since it helps the society, but it can still be harmful to one's rights.

This poll is about all opinions. I'll be surprised if the majority here picks "no" since I hear the statement that all opinions should be respected so often. Guilty_Biscuit made an interesting comment that harmful opinions are OK as long as one doesn't act them (if I understood you right). Still, no one has picked "yes" in the poll yet.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:31 am
by Titanic
Not all opinions, but most should.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:42 am
by Anarchy Ninja
Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion, it's if one trys to push that on to others or it affects the well being of others when it becomes a problem

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:48 am
by Psilocbin
Some opinions, for example xtratabasco's, are very stupid. I think there are few opinions that deserve respect.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:56 am
by Guiscard
Anarchy Ninja wrote:Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion, it's if one trys to push that on to others or it affects the well being of others when it becomes a problem


Spot on.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:58 am
by mr. incrediball
Skittles! wrote:I don't believe all opinions should be respected. Most, but not all. Like if someone's opinion is that Men are more superior to Women, then I disagree with that. Another example, if one believes that one race is more superior to one other, then I disagree.

Other than that, I respect most opinions of what you believe, other than the things above.


that doesn't mean you don't respect them, it means you don't agree with them

I don't think racist or anti-<insert country here> opinions should be respected

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:00 am
by mr. incrediball
Jafnhár wrote:
Skittles! wrote:I don't believe all opinions should be respected. Most, but not all. Like if someone's opinion is that Men are more superior to Women, then I disagree with that. Another example, if one believes that one race is more superior to one other, then I disagree.

Other than that, I respect most opinions of what you believe, other than the things above.


But where do you put the barriers?

Few agree with the ideology of nazism today and there are few nazis, but before WW2, some people could have said that nazis's opinions should be respected just like the opinions of everyone else.

In the future, a vast majority of people might believe that eating animals is wrong. Do the accepted opinions in the society just change with time?


i will never agree with vegetarianism, plants are, after all, also living things.

i respect vegetarians, i just don't agree with them

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:13 pm
by RobinJ
mr. incrediball wrote:
Skittles! wrote:I don't believe all opinions should be respected. Most, but not all. Like if someone's opinion is that Men are more superior to Women, then I disagree with that. Another example, if one believes that one race is more superior to one other, then I disagree.

Other than that, I respect most opinions of what you believe, other than the things above.


that doesn't mean you don't respect them, it means you don't agree with them

I don't think racist or anti-<insert country here> opinions should be respected


Exactly - stuff like racism, sectarianism, etc is so stupid because it is all coming from a bunch of extremely ignorant, insecure people. Opinions are fine if they are grounded on something. But the other night I saw the news for N.I. and it was a little Protestant boy of less than 5 with a brick in his hand.

News reporter: "What are you going to do with that brick?"
Boy: "Throw it at the Fenians" (Catholics)
News reporter: "Why?"
Boy: "I dunno. Just."

There is an example of someone who has been indoctrinated with these ideas of hate and doesn't have a clue about anything. The hate exists because of the IRA and other paramiliatry groups, but our newest generation(s) doesn't really know what it is all about. They just do it because their parents did it. All they know is that they hate the "Fenians" (or the "Huns" (Protestants) from a Catholic point of view) but they don't know why.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:25 pm
by duday53
hmmm... there isnt a everybody's opinion be respected except for twig and ranck's option.

j/k

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:48 pm
by Aegnor
I can't treat this poll seriously without a GFY option. Sorry.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:04 pm
by Anarchist
Anarchy Ninja wrote:Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion, it's if one trys to push that on to others or it affects the well being of others when it becomes a problem


This is what I would have written(less elegantly)

If people had respected eachothers opinions then we wouldnt have the bloodstained history we do.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:25 pm
by gethine
Jafnhár wrote:In the future, a vast majority of people might believe that eating animals is wrong. Do the accepted opinions in the society just change with time?


if eating animals is wrong then they should not of been made out of meat - big design flaw :D

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:38 pm
by Titanic
gethine wrote:
Jafnhár wrote:In the future, a vast majority of people might believe that eating animals is wrong. Do the accepted opinions in the society just change with time?


if eating animals is wrong then they should not of been made out of meat - big design flaw :D


But does god have morals?

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:39 pm
by mr. incrediball
he probably used to, but got bored with a perfect universe.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:46 pm
by Guiscard
gethine wrote:
Jafnhár wrote:In the future, a vast majority of people might believe that eating animals is wrong. Do the accepted opinions in the society just change with time?


if eating animals is wrong then they should not of been made out of meat - big design flaw :D


We're made of meat too... :D

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:49 pm
by mr. incrediball
Guiscard wrote:
gethine wrote:
Jafnhár wrote:In the future, a vast majority of people might believe that eating animals is wrong. Do the accepted opinions in the society just change with time?


if eating animals is wrong then they should not of been made out of meat - big design flaw :D


We're made of meat too... :D


i vote guiscard is first on the menu

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:58 pm
by CrazyAnglican
Guiscard wrote:
gethine wrote:
Jafnhár wrote:In the future, a vast majority of people might believe that eating animals is wrong. Do the accepted opinions in the society just change with time?


if eating animals is wrong then they should not of been made out of meat - big design flaw :D


We're made of meat too... :D



I figure, hey, an animal can run. A plant just has to sit there and wait for the inevitable.



Whether you're an evolutionist or a creationist, we should be able to agree that cows somehow ended up being big, slow, dumb, and tasty. That pretty much spells food in my book :lol:

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:01 pm
by Jafnhár
Can anyone explain to me what "respecting opinions" means?

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:07 pm
by Guiscard
Jafnhár wrote:Can anyone explain to me what "respecting opinions" means?


You made the poll...

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:20 pm
by Dancing Mustard
Jafnhár wrote:Can anyone explain to me what "respecting opinions" means?

Oh god, you're one of these school-teacher types who's going to try to 'chair' the debate rather than let it run its natural course, aren't you?