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Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Timminz on Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:34 pm

According to an American conservative organization, the average Fox News viewer has an IQ of only 80*, which is officially classified as the dividing point between "dullness" and "borderline deficient"**.

Some might argue that Fox is making people stupider, while others might argue that stupid people are naturally more drawn to Fox News. I postulate that these results are biased, and merely reflect the fact that intelligent people, when asked by a stranger, will not openly admit to getting their news from Fox.


* http://news.yahoo.com/intelligence-inst ... 22242.html

** http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqbasics.aspx
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby john9blue on Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:36 pm

this seems completely legit and i won't even bother questioning your sources.




...hey, someone posted another graph that i disagree with showing the flaws in our welfare system! GET HIM
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:45 pm

So, then, according the ratings, there are hardly any smart people who watch cable news? (Nobody watches MSNBC or HL, few people watch CNN)
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:00 pm

Wait, Romney didn't have a chance of winning?! I need to see the stats from the news desk. It's still too early to call.

Ah Fox news on election night- a pretend news channel in meltdown mode surrounded by delusional partisan hacks.

I hear they've virtually banned Dick Morris and Karl Rove unless authorised from the top post-debacle.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:04 pm

Fox News Puts Karl Rove on the Bench

The post-election soul searching going on inside the Republican Party is taking place inside Fox News as well. Fox News chief Roger Ailes, a canny marketer and protector of his network’s brand, has been taking steps since November to reposition Fox in the post-election media environment, freshening story lines — and in some cases, changing the characters.

According to multiple Fox sources, Ailes has issued a new directive to his staff: He wants the faces associated with the election off the air — for now. For Karl Rove and Dick Morris — a pair of pundits perhaps most closely aligned with Fox’s anti-Obama campaign — Ailes’s orders mean new rules. Ailes’s deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris.

Both pundits made several appearances in the days after the election, but their visibility on the network has dropped markedly. Inside Fox News, Morris’s Romney boosterism and reality-denying predictions became a punch line.

At a rehearsal on the Saturday before the election, according to a source, anchor Megyn Kelly chuckled when she relayed to colleagues what someone had told her: “I really like Dick Morris. He’s always wrong but he makes me feel good.”
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:41 pm

Symmetry wrote:Fox News Puts Karl Rove on the Bench

The post-election soul searching going on inside the Republican Party is taking place inside Fox News as well. Fox News chief Roger Ailes, a canny marketer and protector of his network’s brand, has been taking steps since November to reposition Fox in the post-election media environment, freshening story lines — and in some cases, changing the characters.

According to multiple Fox sources, Ailes has issued a new directive to his staff: He wants the faces associated with the election off the air — for now. For Karl Rove and Dick Morris — a pair of pundits perhaps most closely aligned with Fox’s anti-Obama campaign — Ailes’s orders mean new rules. Ailes’s deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris.

Both pundits made several appearances in the days after the election, but their visibility on the network has dropped markedly. Inside Fox News, Morris’s Romney boosterism and reality-denying predictions became a punch line.

At a rehearsal on the Saturday before the election, according to a source, anchor Megyn Kelly chuckled when she relayed to colleagues what someone had told her: “I really like Dick Morris. He’s always wrong but he makes me feel good.”


or maybe they are just election pundits, and they don't need election pundits the month after the election?
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:52 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Fox News Puts Karl Rove on the Bench

The post-election soul searching going on inside the Republican Party is taking place inside Fox News as well. Fox News chief Roger Ailes, a canny marketer and protector of his network’s brand, has been taking steps since November to reposition Fox in the post-election media environment, freshening story lines — and in some cases, changing the characters.

According to multiple Fox sources, Ailes has issued a new directive to his staff: He wants the faces associated with the election off the air — for now. For Karl Rove and Dick Morris — a pair of pundits perhaps most closely aligned with Fox’s anti-Obama campaign — Ailes’s orders mean new rules. Ailes’s deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris.

Both pundits made several appearances in the days after the election, but their visibility on the network has dropped markedly. Inside Fox News, Morris’s Romney boosterism and reality-denying predictions became a punch line.

At a rehearsal on the Saturday before the election, according to a source, anchor Megyn Kelly chuckled when she relayed to colleagues what someone had told her: “I really like Dick Morris. He’s always wrong but he makes me feel good.”


or maybe they are just election pundits, and they don't need election pundits the month after the election?


Interesting- you don't think that the problem is that they were terrible and ridiculously partisan? You think that they are banned apart from high level approval because they're only election pundits?

Fascinating
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby john9blue on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:04 pm

can we make this thread a poll asking which people think this is a legitimate study?

better yet, if you think this is a legitimate study, just post here saying so.

i want to see which of you "intelligent, scientifically-minded liberals" are too stupid to understand basic statistics and detect bias that you happen to agree with.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:11 pm

It takes one to know one?
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:12 pm

john9blue wrote:can we make this thread a poll asking which people think this is a legitimate study?

better yet, if you think this is a legitimate study, just post here saying so.

i want to see which of you "intelligent, scientifically-minded liberals" are too stupid to understand basic statistics and detect bias that you happen to agree with.


Can I ask, before we do this, if you consider yourself a "fox-news viewer"? I don't want to be crass, or simplistic- I think most people on the thread have viewed Fox news. Is it your main source of news? If not, why not?
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby john9blue on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:13 pm

i don't watch fox news, or any TV news, for that matter. i do sometimes read an article from fox news online.

this thread isn't personally insulting, it's just laughable to me that people will post such an unintelligent article about how intelligent they are.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:13 pm

I don't watch any television at all. What does that make me?
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby john9blue on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:14 pm

bitch i don't even OWN a television. get on my level
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:15 pm

john9blue wrote:bitch i don't even OWN a television. get on my level


Yeah, well you've got me beat there. I do like watching older movies. :( 70's-80's is the golden age of movies IMHO.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:16 pm

john9blue wrote:bitch i don't even OWN a television. get on my level


So you were trolling. Big whoop.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby john9blue on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:50 pm

wait... what? i'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion... probably the same way you arrive at a lot of your conclusions
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Iliad on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:55 pm

Hey john, why are you trying o hard to to criticise fault with these statistics, while sweeping criticisms of Nighstrike's 168 stat in the other thread. Probably because you're so objective and neutral as always.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:55 pm

john9blue wrote:wait... what? i'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion... probably the same way you arrive at a lot of your conclusions


How? A mix of logic and intuitive knowledge. You'll always be my Watson, J9B.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:41 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Fox News Puts Karl Rove on the Bench

The post-election soul searching going on inside the Republican Party is taking place inside Fox News as well. Fox News chief Roger Ailes, a canny marketer and protector of his network’s brand, has been taking steps since November to reposition Fox in the post-election media environment, freshening story lines — and in some cases, changing the characters.

According to multiple Fox sources, Ailes has issued a new directive to his staff: He wants the faces associated with the election off the air — for now. For Karl Rove and Dick Morris — a pair of pundits perhaps most closely aligned with Fox’s anti-Obama campaign — Ailes’s orders mean new rules. Ailes’s deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris.

Both pundits made several appearances in the days after the election, but their visibility on the network has dropped markedly. Inside Fox News, Morris’s Romney boosterism and reality-denying predictions became a punch line.

At a rehearsal on the Saturday before the election, according to a source, anchor Megyn Kelly chuckled when she relayed to colleagues what someone had told her: “I really like Dick Morris. He’s always wrong but he makes me feel good.”


or maybe they are just election pundits, and they don't need election pundits the month after the election?


Interesting- you don't think that the problem is that they were terrible and ridiculously partisan? You think that they are banned apart from high level approval because they're only election pundits?


They are who they are. I think being so wrong with their predictions has more to do with it than any of the posted feel-good political masturbation.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:46 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Fox News Puts Karl Rove on the Bench

The post-election soul searching going on inside the Republican Party is taking place inside Fox News as well. Fox News chief Roger Ailes, a canny marketer and protector of his network’s brand, has been taking steps since November to reposition Fox in the post-election media environment, freshening story lines — and in some cases, changing the characters.

According to multiple Fox sources, Ailes has issued a new directive to his staff: He wants the faces associated with the election off the air — for now. For Karl Rove and Dick Morris — a pair of pundits perhaps most closely aligned with Fox’s anti-Obama campaign — Ailes’s orders mean new rules. Ailes’s deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris.

Both pundits made several appearances in the days after the election, but their visibility on the network has dropped markedly. Inside Fox News, Morris’s Romney boosterism and reality-denying predictions became a punch line.

At a rehearsal on the Saturday before the election, according to a source, anchor Megyn Kelly chuckled when she relayed to colleagues what someone had told her: “I really like Dick Morris. He’s always wrong but he makes me feel good.”


or maybe they are just election pundits, and they don't need election pundits the month after the election?


Interesting- you don't think that the problem is that they were terrible and ridiculously partisan? You think that they are banned apart from high level approval because they're only election pundits?


They are who they are. I think being so wrong with their predictions has more to do with it than any of the posted feel-good political masturbation.


The whole channel went pro-Romney, the nation went against. Does that not seem like they're poor on getting the news across?
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:54 pm

The nation????

some 58+ million people were pro-Romney. It seems natural that Pro-Romney people would enjoy a pro-Romney anything rather than an anti-Romney anything

And you are wrong. The entire channel did not go pro-Romney. There were a couple Ron Paul people, as well as many others who did nothing more than challenge the constant streams of bullshit from Washington D.C.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:02 pm

Phatscotty wrote:The nation????

some 58+ million people were pro-Romney. It seems natural that Pro-Romney people would enjoy a pro-Romney anything rather than an anti-Romney anything

And you are wrong. The entire channel did not go pro-Romney. There were a couple Ron Paul people, as well as many others who did nothing more than challenge the constant streams of bullshit from Washington D.C.


Huh, fair enough, I guess some people went with Ron Paul, a few weeks before he retired, the shattered broken Republican racist that he was.

I don't see that as a redeeming feature of the channel.
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby chang50 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:11 pm

Timminz wrote:According to an American conservative organization, the average Fox News viewer has an IQ of only 80*, which is officially classified as the dividing point between "dullness" and "borderline deficient"**.

Some might argue that Fox is making people stupider, while others might argue that stupid people are naturally more drawn to Fox News. I postulate that these results are biased, and merely reflect the fact that intelligent people, when asked by a stranger, will not openly admit to getting their news from Fox.


* http://news.yahoo.com/intelligence-inst ... 22242.html

** http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqbasics.aspx


Of course it is possible to watch Faux News regularly without supporting the overwhelming right wing bias it is notorious for,as I do.In fact it is highly instructive as a guide to what not to think..
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:13 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:The nation????

some 58+ million people were pro-Romney. It seems natural that Pro-Romney people would enjoy a pro-Romney anything rather than an anti-Romney anything

And you are wrong. The entire channel did not go pro-Romney. There were a couple Ron Paul people, as well as many others who did nothing more than challenge the constant streams of bullshit from Washington D.C.


Huh, fair enough, I guess some people went with Ron Paul, a few weeks before he retired, the shattered broken Republican racist that he was.

I don't see that as a redeeming feature of the channel.


Honestly, I am not that qualified to speak about Fox news, or if I am, it's about as much as most Fox-haters, being that I don't watch FOX per say, but I see FOX tidbits on websites and John Stewart/Colbert/every show on MSNBC.

I♥John Stossel, but I don't pay for the premium cable package, so I have to try to follow him on the internet. Judge Nepalitino was also a class act. Imus in the morning gets a lot of great guests, and Glenn Beck changed the game thru FOX.

What specifically do you hate most about FOX?
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Re: Fox Viewers Are Dull/Borderline Mentally Deficient

Postby notyou2 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:15 pm

The viewers.
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