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un-fricken-believable!!!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:39 pm
by wicked
this just blows my mind... ASHBURN, Georgia (CNN) -- Students of Turner County High School started what they hope will become a new tradition: Black and white students attended the prom together for the first time on Saturday.


read more:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23/turner.prom/index.html

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:42 pm
by ritz627
"There was not anybody that I can remember that was black," she said. "The white people have theirs, and the black people have theirs. It's nothing racial at all."

Thats the part that gets me. Thats ridiculous.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:45 pm
by wicked
this part got me:

Nichols said while her parents were in support of the integrated prom, some of her friends weren't allowed to go.

"I've asked, 'Why can't you come?' and they're like, 'My mommy and daddy -- they don't agree with being with the colored people,' which I think is crazy," she said.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:48 pm
by ritz627
Yea. I don't even know what to say to that.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:35 am
by Psilocbin
that's retarded.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:42 am
by Nephilim
if any public money is going to this, then holy shit.....i can't believe jesse jackson or the SPLC hasn't been all over this....terrible stuff, and i count georgia as one of my homes.....

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:45 am
by jay_a2j
Sad that this still goes on in America. Good for the students to "break away" from past tradition. I'm just surprised the ACLU didn't get involved in this sooner...oh wait, its about integration not a Bible study, never mind.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:27 am
by diddle
that is stupidly stupid....and i know stupid

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:24 am
by Guilty_Biscuit
rural Ashburn, Georgia, 160 miles south of Atlanta

In case of nuclear war - Drop... Bomb... Here

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:02 am
by heavycola
Oh My God. This isn't even reported as a 'scientists find coelecanth' story. Is segregation still a fact of life down there? Unbelievable.


(Nice one jay, you still managed to squeeze in some kneejerk religious comment)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:13 am
by Nephilim
heavycola wrote:Oh My God. This isn't even reported as a 'scientists find coelecanth' story. Is segregation still a fact of life down there? Unbelievable.


(Nice one jay, you still managed to squeeze in some kneejerk religious comment)


limbaugh and o'reilly scream at him at night when he tries to sleep unless he toes the party line....he can't help himself


and no, segregation isn't a part of life in the south, anymore than it is in other parts of the country. this is an extreme example that is really quite shocking. besides the gentrification/different parts of town for different colors, i've never seen this junk in practice. and that gentrification happens everywhere, not just the south.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:20 am
by 2dimes
I can't be suprised at this. I know there's probably lots of progresive people from the south but...

Much like I have a distorted perspective of racial matters because I'm in Canada others have different perspectives.

Canadians of African decent for the most part are nearly completely accepted as regular Canadians by everyone other than by the really backwards (racist) people.

(Oddly enough I was working with 3 africans and a guy from a small eastern Canadian island community recently. The guy was mildly racist and complaining about the other guys, who were bickering with him while we tried to get one of the trucks out of the mud.)




I think Jay was actually making fun of the ACLU heavy, may want to take the sarcasm detector in to get calibrated.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:54 am
by jay_a2j
2dimes wrote:I think Jay was actually making fun of the ACLU heavy, may want to take the sarcasm detector in to get calibrated.



Thanks 2dimes for explaining that to heavy so I didn't have too. :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:02 am
by Backglass
Sounds like the kids have the right idea...the parents (both sides) are the ones with the ancient racial attitudes.

I hope the fear and bigotry doesn't get passed down to the next generation...but sadly it probably will.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:09 am
by XenHu
"If they are picking so much for it to be united, why was there a prom last week for the white, when they are supposed to be united for tonight?" asked Lisa Hall.

Valerie McKellar echoed that sentiment as she watched white and black students pose together.

"That is so fake. There is nothing real about that," she said.

"That's just like you're cooking a half-baked cake, putting the icing on it, and when you cut the cake, the cake ain't no good. That's how this prom is," she said.


Interesting opinion..

-X

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:52 am
by RobinJ
Stupid racist bastards

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:03 am
by XenHu
While we're on the subject of things that are 'un-freakin believable'..

Click here



A Franciscan friar faces multiple child-pornography charges after Toronto police raided a Roman Catholic church in Scarborough.

Brother Adley Lobo, 24, had been affiliated with both St. Francis Friary in Caledon and St. Lawrence Martyr Church in Toronto, according to police.

Brother Lobo became the subject of an undercover police investigation into individuals suspected of downloading child pornography from the Internet...

~~~~~~~

"I am attracted to the simple life of the friars and service to God and to others," Brother Lobo was quoted as saying in the newsletter.


Of course, when you think about it, it's not really un-believable at all..

:lol:

-X

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:11 am
by Nephilim
lol, heavycola was rite on, jay uttered a kneejerk ridicule of the ACLU that obviously stems from his own religious biases (that, or he did it b/c rush told him to)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:28 am
by btownmeggy
Nephilim wrote:and no, segregation isn't a part of life in the south, anymore than it is in other parts of the country.


Segregation is certainly still a big issue in the U.S., and especially in the South. Geographic segregation still exists everywhere, and for many ethnic groups, though in most American cities it is pointed against Blacks. "Blacks live {-----} here, and all the rest of us can live everywhere else." This is true in nearly all Southern and Midwestern cities, and even in many of America's famous bastions of liberality: San Francisco, Portland, Boston, and Seattle.

The most startling aspect of race relations in the South is the extreme racial hatred that I have not seen manifested anywhere else in the Americas (except Central America, I guess.) I grew up in a small Southern town that was about 40% black, 40% white, 20% Hispanic. When I was in 5th grade the last remaining black student at my school transferred to a school in a town about 20 miles away. In the rural South to this day, there are black schools and there are white schools. They're not imposed by the government, school administrators don't have racially aimed policies. The racism, hatred, and social manipulation that children have learned from their parents can make attending the same school nearly unbearable, especially if you find yourself in a minority. When I've brought Yankee friends to visit the area where I grew up, they very quickly notice the palpable racial hate that pervades the community. The racism that reigns in backwoods Utah, where most people have seen two or three blacks in their lives, cannot compare to that which survives in the South where blacks and whites have lived side by side for hundreds of years. The South is still worse than the rest of the United States.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:57 am
by jay_a2j
Nephilim wrote:lol, heavycola was rite on, jay uttered a kneejerk ridicule of the ACLU that obviously stems from his own religious biases (that, or he did it b/c rush told him to)



Obviously you need an explanation too. The ACLU is supposed to stand for The American Civil Liberties Union. Yet they have been silent on this segregation of the prom. Why? Because their main focus is to attack Christianity. The ACLU is a joke and one that's not even funny. They are there fighting to get a Christmas tree taken down in a public place but turn a blind eye to the racial segregation of that school. You can continue to make snide remarks directed at me, its not like its a surprise or that you are the first to do it. It is expected. Continue with your bias against people of faith, like Heavy.....I really don't care. Just at least educate yourself before posting nonsense.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:00 pm
by The1exile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:03 pm
by jay_a2j
The1exile wrote:
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OMG! I need to find another hobby! :P



EDIT: Ooops now I just increased the percentage.... :(

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:06 pm
by jay_a2j
Yikes! And I have to change that 6.66 posts per day! (Not a good number)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:07 pm
by The1exile
jay_a2j wrote:
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OMG! I need to find another hobby! :P



EDIT: Ooops now I just increased the percentage.... :(


Nope, actually it's still the same.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:52 pm
by Nephilim
btownmeggy wrote:
Nephilim wrote:and no, segregation isn't a part of life in the south, anymore than it is in other parts of the country.


Segregation is certainly still a big issue in the U.S., and especially in the South. Geographic segregation still exists everywhere, and for many ethnic groups, though in most American cities it is pointed against Blacks. "Blacks live {-----} here, and all the rest of us can live everywhere else." This is true in nearly all Southern and Midwestern cities, and even in many of America's famous bastions of liberality: San Francisco, Portland, Boston, and Seattle.

The most startling aspect of race relations in the South is the extreme racial hatred that I have not seen manifested anywhere else in the Americas (except Central America, I guess.) I grew up in a small Southern town that was about 40% black, 40% white, 20% Hispanic. When I was in 5th grade the last remaining black student at my school transferred to a school in a town about 20 miles away. In the rural South to this day, there are black schools and there are white schools. They're not imposed by the government, school administrators don't have racially aimed policies. The racism, hatred, and social manipulation that children have learned from their parents can make attending the same school nearly unbearable, especially if you find yourself in a minority. When I've brought Yankee friends to visit the area where I grew up, they very quickly notice the palpable racial hate that pervades the community. The racism that reigns in backwoods Utah, where most people have seen two or three blacks in their lives, cannot compare to that which survives in the South where blacks and whites have lived side by side for hundreds of years. The South is still worse than the rest of the United States.


cheers, meggy, i certainly did not mean to downplay race problems in the south or the US as a whole. the issue should never be elided, racism is inhuman and morally repugnant.

i meant to say: someone asked (i think heavycola) if segregation is still a fact of life in the south. as a southerner with some concern that folks don't view us as backwards and ignorant, i tried to say that besides gentrification (the geographical segregation you speak of), there are not a lot of examples of segregation still in effect.

i certainly agree that gentrification is still at work and a major problem. i think you've hit on something very key: it's effect on education. if minority folks live in certain sections, they will attend schools in those sections. and those schools almost always end up much worse than white schools. and i can tell you from experience, race-based policies ARE imposed by the government and enforced/enacted by school administrators. there are racists influencing these groups from within or without.

i would also say that ghettos exist every in the states: northern and western cities as well as southern or midwestern. my main intention was to say that from my experience segregation does not appear to be a southern phenomenon indicating hideous, pervasive racism, and in fact in some measurable ways, the south is no more segregationist than the rest of the union. i did not extend my comments to race relations in general, and i'm sorry if i appeared to downplay racism and racist policies that still exist.