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Was it worth it?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:06 am
by reverend_kyle

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:24 am
by jay_a2j
Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:30 am
by diddle
i must say.... that touched me, some of the lyrics were a bit crude though

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:44 am
by got tonkaed
clearly just the ones were people die jay, just the ones were people die.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:48 am
by Skittles!
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


Why wouldn't you be against the Cold War :D

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:59 am
by Guiscard
Skittles! wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


Why wouldn't you be against the Cold War :D


Wrong. Millions of deaths in the cold war.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:00 am
by Skittles!
Guiscard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


Why wouldn't you be against the Cold War :D


Wrong. Millions of deaths in the cold war.


Shhh.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:17 pm
by reverend_kyle
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


I'm against wars fought for causes that keep changing. You know where the leaders lie to the people to fulfill a personal agenda.

Those kind.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:20 pm
by Psilocbin
Kyle you suck.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:23 pm
by jay_a2j
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


I'm against wars fought for causes that keep changing. You know where the leaders lie to the people to fulfill a personal agenda.




As defined by you and/or the leftist elites.


There is a war going on right here in America. A war for the hearts and minds of the American people. A war where people do not take on a physical death but a death of character, morality and common sense.(the essence of what once made America great)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:24 pm
by reverend_kyle
jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


I'm against wars fought for causes that keep changing. You know where the leaders lie to the people to fulfill a personal agenda.




As defined by you and/or the leftist elites.


There is a war going on right here in America. A war for the hearts and minds of the American people. A war where people do not take on a physical death but a death of character, morality and common sense.


You're right jay, can you educate me on the current reason for the war? It's changed so much I keep forgetting their excuses.

Oh you mean the "war on christianity". Or the "war for freedom". Freedom to choose your morals, and not have everyone shove them down your throat?

I'm very confused. Educate me.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:29 pm
by Psilocbin
You suck Jay.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:32 pm
by mandalorian2298
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


I'm against wars fought for causes that keep changing. You know where the leaders lie to the people to fulfill a personal agenda.




As defined by you and/or the leftist elites.


There is a war going on right here in America. A war for the hearts and minds of the American people. A war where people do not take on a physical death but a death of character, morality and common sense.


You're right jay, can you educate me on the current reason for the war? It's changed so much I keep forgetting their excuses.

Oh you mean the "war on christianity". Or the "war for freedom". Freedom to choose your morals, and not have everyone shove them down your throat?

I'm very confused. Educate me.


"War for a chance to democraticly choose your leaders". Of course, if stupid Arabs choose wrong leaders, St. George W. reserves the right to apply a bit of pressure. 'Cause they gotta learn. They GOTTA LEARN!! :twisted:

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:33 pm
by reverend_kyle
I have faith. Eventually they'll pick the guys we want.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:45 pm
by jay_a2j
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


I'm against wars fought for causes that keep changing. You know where the leaders lie to the people to fulfill a personal agenda.




As defined by you and/or the leftist elites.


There is a war going on right here in America. A war for the hearts and minds of the American people. A war where people do not take on a physical death but a death of character, morality and common sense.


You're right jay, can you educate me on the current reason for the war? It's changed so much I keep forgetting their excuses.

Oh you mean the "war on christianity". Or the "war for freedom". Freedom to choose your morals, and not have everyone shove them down your throat?

I'm very confused. Educate me.




Things worked well for the 250 years prior to liberalism invading this nation. It has always been here but for the most part it was kept contained and rendered ineffective. But slowly over the past 20 years or so it has crept into society almost unnoticed. Liberalism has taken the "freedom to discipline" away from parents.... creating a generation of undisciplined children with very little if any respect for authority or elders. It has forced on its people that what is "good" for one is "tolerable" for all. Liberalism is the forcing of the beliefs of minorities onto the better judgement of the majority. It is a corrupt, godless, self centered view of how the world should be according to the few. And its growing..... destroying what our forefathers created.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:48 pm
by Psilocbin
You suck dude.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:49 pm
by mandalorian2298
jay_a2j wrote:

Things worked well for the 250 years prior to liberalism invading this nation.


That's true. Ever since that Lincoln guy got elected, there is just NO place to buy good slaves anymore. So, liberalism even hurts us non-americans. :cry:

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:08 pm
by reverend_kyle
jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you against all war or just the wars where people die? :roll:


I'm against wars fought for causes that keep changing. You know where the leaders lie to the people to fulfill a personal agenda.




As defined by you and/or the leftist elites.


There is a war going on right here in America. A war for the hearts and minds of the American people. A war where people do not take on a physical death but a death of character, morality and common sense.


You're right jay, can you educate me on the current reason for the war? It's changed so much I keep forgetting their excuses.

Oh you mean the "war on christianity". Or the "war for freedom". Freedom to choose your morals, and not have everyone shove them down your throat?

I'm very confused. Educate me.




Things worked well for the 250 years prior to liberalism invading this nation. It has always been here but for the most part it was kept contained and rendered ineffective. But slowly over the past 20 years or so it has crept into society almost unnoticed. Liberalism has taken the "freedom to discipline" away from parents.... creating a generation of undisciplined children with very little if any respect for authority or elders. It has forced on its people that what is "good" for one is "tolerable" for all. Liberalism is the forcing of the beliefs of minorities onto the better judgement of the majority. It is a corrupt, godless, self centered view of how the world should be according to the few. And its growing..... destroying what our forefathers created.


1776+200=1976+50=2026


so Jay is telling the future.. everyone in the 20 years following 2026 Liberalism will ruin our country.


Jay, did god make you a seer or are you a vigilante seer.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:08 pm
by millej11
Wow, until I saw this video I never knew that people can die as a result of war. This will greatly change my political outlook.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:09 pm
by jay_a2j
mandalorian2298 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:

Things worked well for the 250 years prior to liberalism invading this nation.


That's true. Ever since that Lincoln guy got elected, there is just NO place to buy good slaves anymore. So, liberalism even hurts us non-americans. :cry:


Thats not liberalism thats civil rights.


The protesters outside of KFC saying that KFC treats chickens inhumanly is liberalism (they are the same people at the pro-choice rallies).

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:11 pm
by reverend_kyle
jay_a2j wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:

Things worked well for the 250 years prior to liberalism invading this nation.


That's true. Ever since that Lincoln guy got elected, there is just NO place to buy good slaves anymore. So, liberalism even hurts us non-americans. :cry:


Thats not liberalism thats civil rights.


The protesters outside of KFC saying that KFC treats chickens inhumanly is liberalism (they are the same people at the pro-choice rallies).


Well yes, in your very thin view of it that even makes most democrats not liberals, but nice try anyways.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:11 pm
by reverend_kyle
millej11 wrote:Wow, until I saw this video I never knew that people can die as a result of war. This will greatly change my political outlook.


Is the loss of thousands of american citizens just to put Iraq in a huge civil war worth it?

No. I don't think so.

Do you?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:15 pm
by jay_a2j
reverend_kyle wrote:
1776+200=1976+50=2026




It's called rounding, I guess I should have put 250 "or so" years for people like you rev.

Typical non-rebuttal so lets attack meaningless specifics. :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:25 pm
by millej11
reverend_kyle wrote:
millej11 wrote:Wow, until I saw this video I never knew that people can die as a result of war. This will greatly change my political outlook.


Is the loss of thousands of american citizens just to put Iraq in a huge civil war worth it?

No. I don't think so.

Do you?


I think it was worth it.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:28 pm
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:

Things worked well for the 250 years prior to liberalism invading this nation.


That's true. Ever since that Lincoln guy got elected, there is just NO place to buy good slaves anymore. So, liberalism even hurts us non-americans. :cry:


Thats not liberalism thats civil rights.


The protesters outside of KFC saying that KFC treats chickens inhumanly is liberalism (they are the same people at the pro-choice rallies).


a) i think you mean 'inhumanely'. I don't think treating chickens like humans is going to do anyone or any chickens much good

b) the protesters 'is liberalism'?

c) How do you know the KFC protesters are the same people at the pro-life rallies? how do you know? I am honestly curious.

EDIT: It is so easy to manipulate people like jay - just give them a 'war on <insert abstract noun>'. Terror, communism, liberalism.... it's all the same bullshit anyway. How do you win a war on an abstract concept? Answer: you tell jay and his ilk that you're winning. Also throw in a few other abstract nouns like 'pride', 'patriotism', 'duty' blah blah blah