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What is a joke about stereotyping?

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:49 pm
by unriggable
So I had an argument the other day, about wether a joke that stereotypes an entire race is either racist or politically incorrect. What do you guys think?

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:53 pm
by MeDeFe
Do you have an example?

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:53 pm
by foolish_yeti
why are the two options mutually exclusive?

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:54 pm
by unriggable
"What do you call a bunch of white gutys rolling down a hill? Avalanche. What do you call a bunch of black guys running down a hill? Mudslide. What do you call a bunch of mexicans running down a hill? Jailbreak."

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:55 pm
by Incandenza
unriggable wrote:"What do you call a bunch of white gutys rolling down a hill? Avalanche. What do you call a bunch of black guys running down a hill? Mudslide. What do you call a bunch of mexicans running down a hill? Jailbreak."
I think it helps if the joke is actually funny.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:56 pm
by hecter
I think that is a stupid and shitty joke.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:56 pm
by jay_a2j
unriggable wrote:"What do you call a bunch of white gutys rolling down a hill? Avalanche. What do you call a bunch of black guys running down a hill? Mudslide. What do you call a bunch of mexicans running down a hill? Jailbreak."
racist.... I could give two hoots about political correctness.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:56 pm
by unriggable
Incandenza wrote:I think it helps if the joke is actually funny.
"Why isnt there a mexican olympic team? Because if a mexican can run fast or jump high they're on the US olympic team"

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:56 pm
by Jesse, Bad Boy
What about the "neither" option?

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:56 pm
by MeDeFe
There are really that many Mexicans in prison?

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:59 pm
by wcaclimbing
nice joke
LOL.
do religion jokes count as racist or politically correct?
Another mexican joke.
How do you find all the mexicans in a city?
roll a quarter down a hill.
How do you know which is the richest?
its the one that got the quarter!

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:59 pm
by Jesse, Bad Boy
Why aren't there any black astronauts?
Because their lips explode at 3,000 feet.
How do you circumcise a redneck?
Kick his sister in the jaw.
What do you call ten gays in a sleeping bag?
Fruit roll-up.
What's the difference between a black man and an Irish man?
Irish man does not go down after 40 shots.
What's an Irish seven course meal?
Six pack and a potato.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:04 pm
by Lord Canti
Stereotypes are just positive or negative observations made about a group through experience with that group. As long as you use the same system of thought for each group, anylyze credible evidence and statistics before forming stereotypes for that group, it is not racist.
A racist action would involve predjudice, no analysis of facts, and a agenda of causing hatred of a certain group.
Long story short...
Stereotypes: can be supported by facts
Racist statements:no factual basis, should be treated as lunacy

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:07 pm
by Kahless
100m runners generally run faster than 1500m runners, is that a racist stereotype?


Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:07 pm
by wcaclimbing
Lord Canti wrote:Racist statements:no factual basis, should be treated as lunacy
White people are idiots.
^racist, yet totally conceited.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:07 pm
by Lord Canti

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:08 pm
by MeDeFe
I actually think some of those were pretty funny. Maybe because I grew up with the Swedish-Danish-Finnish-Norwegian jokes, they usually feature 3 groups and at least one is always screwed.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:11 pm
by Lord Canti
Message deleted....

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:12 pm
by gethine
i guess it often depends on if you are actually trying to offend or trying to be funny...hard to tell though

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:12 pm
by MeDeFe
He was referring to the "white people are stupid" line of his.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:18 pm
by wcaclimbing
what about my comment? the guy deleted what he said.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:28 pm
by Wisse
its racist

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:28 pm
by MeDeFe
He thought you were referring to him because of the "^". Nothing bad.

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:36 pm
by mandalorian2298
I don't care about race, religion, gender etc. I also don't give a shit what people that can't take a joke think of me. A sense of humor and tollerance are the highest values I know (and by "tolerance" I don't mean that you should tiptoe around people out of fear that you are gonna hurt their feelings. I mean that everyone has a right to belive or say anything they like and if I don't agree with them that is my problem, not theirs)

Posted:
Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:22 pm
by btownmeggy
unriggable wrote:"What do you call a bunch of white gutys rolling down a hill? Avalanche. What do you call a bunch of black guys running down a hill? Mudslide. What do you call a bunch of mexicans running down a hill? Jailbreak."
I think this joke would make sense and be funnier if you switched "mexicans" and "black guys".