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Postby Jamie on Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:39 am

As many of you know, a while back, I posted a thread condeming the practice of homosexuality, and I got blasted for it. I'm not tolerant you said. I'm racist you said (homosexualty isn't a race by the way). I was called every filthy thing there is to be called, for speaking ill of homosexuals. So, after all of that grief I took for everything I wrote in that thread, I wrote a thread that implied Muhammad might have been gay. Now some of the same people that bashed me for calling homosexaulity wrong, bashed me for saying Muhammad was gay. If there is nothing wrong with being gay, and it is ok, and accepted to be gay, then what exactly is wrong with a revered religious leader being merely implied as gay, without actually being so. Alot of people are speaking out both sides of their face. Either it is ok to be gay, or it isn't. The person that is, or isn't gay, should make no difference as to whether it is alright to be gay, or not.
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Postby vtmarik on Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:55 am

Hippocrates? The founder of modern medical ethics?
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Postby Lord Canti on Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:56 am

hypocrite*

Hippocrates was a Ancient Greek physician ( probably not what you were going for)
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Postby Incandenza on Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:57 am

Here's the real question: are they hungry, hungry hippocrates?
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Postby Jesse, Bad Boy on Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:11 am

I just think you're a fool for posting unsubstantiated bullshit.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:19 am

I actually agree with Jaime, even though he is an idiot who can't come close to spelling hypocrite, and has a fugly wife

Everyone gangs up on christianity to bash it, bashing Islam is considered racist

Making fun of soccer/football is cansidered terrible, but making fun of American football is not

Making fun of America is good sport, but if I posted a thread in Flame Wars titled "Europeans" it would be terribly racist.

Its not really a CC thing, its more of a society thing. If its against the group with the most power, its not racism, only if its against a minority, it is.
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Postby Jamie on Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:45 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:I actually agree with Jaime, even though he is an idiot who can't come close to spelling hypocrite, and has a fugly wife

Everyone gangs up on christianity to bash it, bashing Islam is considered racist

Making fun of soccer/football is cansidered terrible, but making fun of American football is not

Making fun of America is good sport, but if I posted a thread in Flame Wars titled "Europeans" it would be terribly racist.

Its not really a CC thing, its more of a society thing. If its against the group with the most power, its not racism, only if its against a minority, it is.



I see your point, but how would bashing Europe be considered bashing a minority, or even racist for that matter. Most Americans ancestors came from Europe, so race really isn't an issue. And I don't think Europe would be a minority compared to the US. I don't know what Europes population is but it probably isn't much smaller than the US, might even be bigger. Europe is also very cultuarally diverse, like the US. If someone posted a thread in the Flame Wars called Europeans, I don't think it would be thought of as worse than the Americans thread. Now if you posted a thread called "N***ers" (horrible slang term for black people to those who have no imagination) or something as heinous as that, then yes, you'd get a lot of grief
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:48 am

Jamie wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:I actually agree with Jaime, even though he is an idiot who can't come close to spelling hypocrite, and has a fugly wife

Everyone gangs up on christianity to bash it, bashing Islam is considered racist

Making fun of soccer/football is cansidered terrible, but making fun of American football is not

Making fun of America is good sport, but if I posted a thread in Flame Wars titled "Europeans" it would be terribly racist.

Its not really a CC thing, its more of a society thing. If its against the group with the most power, its not racism, only if its against a minority, it is.



I see your point, but how would bashing Europe be considered bashing a minority, or even racist for that matter. Most Americans ancestors came from Europe, so race really isn't an issue. And I don't think Europe would be a minority compared to the US. I don't know what Europes population is but it probably isn't much smaller than the US, might even be bigger. Europe is also very cultuarally diverse, like the US. If someone posted a thread in the Flame Wars called Europeans, I don't think it would be thought of as worse than the Americans thread. Now if you posted a thread called "N***ers" (horrible slang term for black people to those who have no imagination) or something as heinous as that, then yes, you'd get a lot of grief


I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist
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Postby kclborat on Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:02 am

i have an idea, though since i didnt read the thread im not sure. perhaps people responded to the idea of calling someone gay as an insult? i know that always frustates and makes me angry.
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Postby kclborat on Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:06 am

i just read the thread. your point in this thread is horribly wrong. there is no connection between gay bashing (what you did in the other thread and got rightfully flamed for) and unsubstantiated claims that are made solely to be obscene and crude. how is saying that muhammed had a cock in his mouth when there is no proof of him being gay supporting being gay? it doesnt. all it is is the common middle-school high-school insult of "dude you like the cock" and shit like that.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:37 am

kclborat wrote:i just read the thread. your point in this thread is horribly wrong. there is no connection between gay bashing (what you did in the other thread and got rightfully flamed for) and unsubstantiated claims that are made solely to be obscene and crude. how is saying that muhammed had a cock in his mouth when there is no proof of him being gay supporting being gay? it doesnt. all it is is the common middle-school high-school insult of "dude you like the cock" and shit like that.


But if gay is ok then saying that Muhammed had a cock in his mouth is no more insulting then saying for example Muhammed was blond or that Muhammed lived in Spain. I agree with Jamie :shock: that the people who think that gay is ok (as do I), have no right to be insulted by insinuations that they or someone they respect is gay.
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Postby Jamie on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:34 am

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I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist[/quote]




The US is more powerful than the combined forces of all of Europe?? Excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I'm not sure the US would win, if every country in Europe declared war on us.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:37 am

Jamie wrote:
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I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist





The US is more powerful than the combined forces of all of Europe?? Excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I'm not sure the US would win, if every country in Europe declared war on us.


We would kick ass. Besides England, No one in Europe has an army
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:40 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:
Jamie wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:I actually agree with Jaime, even though he is an idiot who can't come close to spelling hypocrite, and has a fugly wife

Everyone gangs up on christianity to bash it, bashing Islam is considered racist

Making fun of soccer/football is cansidered terrible, but making fun of American football is not

Making fun of America is good sport, but if I posted a thread in Flame Wars titled "Europeans" it would be terribly racist.

Its not really a CC thing, its more of a society thing. If its against the group with the most power, its not racism, only if its against a minority, it is.



I see your point, but how would bashing Europe be considered bashing a minority, or even racist for that matter. Most Americans ancestors came from Europe, so race really isn't an issue. And I don't think Europe would be a minority compared to the US. I don't know what Europes population is but it probably isn't much smaller than the US, might even be bigger. Europe is also very cultuarally diverse, like the US. If someone posted a thread in the Flame Wars called Europeans, I don't think it would be thought of as worse than the Americans thread. Now if you posted a thread called "N***ers" (horrible slang term for black people to those who have no imagination) or something as heinous as that, then yes, you'd get a lot of grief


I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist


Actually the European Union has got close to 500 million citizens against the 300 million of the US. The European continent is much more densely populated than America as well.

Also remember that in Europe there are many races although they all fall under the umbrella term European. An ethnic Portuguese is different from an ethnic Finn for example, but they are both European.

Actually both Europe and America have positive and negative aspects. I would rather live in Europe as I think it's a better place to live in (safer, more democratic), but in America it is much easier to get rich for example. I know that not everyone will agree with this.

About Jamie's original post...I have to say he makes a point. Although many people say they aren't against homosexuality they would feel offended if you call them homosexual (as if it's a negative thing), so it's just politically correct bullshit at the end of the day.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:44 am

Jamie wrote:
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I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist


The US is more powerful than the combined forces of all of Europe?? Excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I'm not sure the US would win, if every country in Europe declared war on us.[/quote]

Depends if you include Russia. With Russia included, Europe would definitely be much stronger from a military aspect. If you exclude Russia I think the US would be slightly stronger. Only France and Great Britain have a strong military. Germany could have one if it wanted to. Also the US rules the seas with its aircraft carriers...kind of like Britain used to rule the waves in the past! ;)
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:45 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:
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Jamie wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:I actually agree with Jaime, even though he is an idiot who can't come close to spelling hypocrite, and has a fugly wife

Everyone gangs up on christianity to bash it, bashing Islam is considered racist

Making fun of soccer/football is cansidered terrible, but making fun of American football is not

Making fun of America is good sport, but if I posted a thread in Flame Wars titled "Europeans" it would be terribly racist.

Its not really a CC thing, its more of a society thing. If its against the group with the most power, its not racism, only if its against a minority, it is.



I see your point, but how would bashing Europe be considered bashing a minority, or even racist for that matter. Most Americans ancestors came from Europe, so race really isn't an issue. And I don't think Europe would be a minority compared to the US. I don't know what Europes population is but it probably isn't much smaller than the US, might even be bigger. Europe is also very cultuarally diverse, like the US. If someone posted a thread in the Flame Wars called Europeans, I don't think it would be thought of as worse than the Americans thread. Now if you posted a thread called "N***ers" (horrible slang term for black people to those who have no imagination) or something as heinous as that, then yes, you'd get a lot of grief


I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist


Actually the European Union has got close to 500 million citizens against the 300 million of the US. The European continent is much more densely populated than America as well.

Also remember that in Europe there are many races although they all fall under the umbrella term European. An ethnic Portuguese is different from an ethnic Finn for example, but they are both European.

Actually both Europe and America have positive and negative aspects. I would rather live in Europe as I think it's a better place to live in (safer, more democratic), but in America it is much easier to get rich for example. I know that not everyone will agree with this.

About Jamie's original post...I have to say he makes a point. Although many people say they aren't against homosexuality they would feel offended if you call them homosexual (as if it's a negative thing), so it's just politically correct bullshit at the end of the day.

Why do you think Europe is more democratic and safer than America? And good point in your last paragraph. I totally agree
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:46 am

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I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist


The US is more powerful than the combined forces of all of Europe?? Excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I'm not sure the US would win, if every country in Europe declared war on us.


We would kick ass. Besides England, No one in Europe has an army


Hmm...first of all it's Great Britain or the UK if you prefer but not England alone. Also you underestimate France, but I guess you are an anglophone that hates the French? :p If Germany wanted it would have a very strong army, and as I said before it depends if you are considering Russia as part of Europe.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:49 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:
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Jamie wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist


The US is more powerful than the combined forces of all of Europe?? Excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I'm not sure the US would win, if every country in Europe declared war on us.


We would kick ass. Besides England, No one in Europe has an army


Hmm...first of all it's Great Britain or the UK if you prefer but not England alone. Also you underestimate France, but I guess you are an anglophone that hates the French? :p If Germany wanted it would have a very strong army, and as I said before it depends if you are considering Russia as part of Europe.

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And Germany can't have an army. It was part of their surrender after WWII. And Russia's military all got sold to Whatthefuckistan after the Berlin Wall fell. Basically it would be England vs. America, and we all know how that turned out the first two times :wink:
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:51 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:Why do you think Europe is more democratic and safer than America? And good point in your last paragraph. I totally agree


It is definitely much safer. Less fire arms, less criminal activity and violent crimes. It's a question of statistics.

More democratic...many reasons. If you look at how the EU works one of its disadvantages might be that it is too democratic! Legislation and changes are implemented too slowly because every member state must agre with a law or it won't be implemented.

Also we are against capital punishment in Europe and that for me is one thing I don't like about the US, although that might fall under human rights I guess.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:55 am

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DIRESTRAITS wrote:Why do you think Europe is more democratic and safer than America? And good point in your last paragraph. I totally agree


It is definitely much safer. Less fire arms, less criminal activity and violent crimes. It's a question of statistics.

More democratic...many reasons. If you look at how the EU works one of its disadvantages might be that it is too democratic! Legislation and changes are implemented too slowly because every member state must agre with a law or it won't be implemented.

Also we are against capital punishment in Europe and that for me is one thing I don't like about the US, although that might fall under human rights I guess.

The death penalty is needed, in my opinion, and makes things much safer. My uncle is a prosecuter in San Diego County and tries cases involving Gang murders. He says that without the death penalty, these crimes would be unpunishable, because the gang members are fine with going to jail.

Also, what are the reasons Europe is more Democratic? I want to know
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:55 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:
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DIRESTRAITS wrote:
Jamie wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist


The US is more powerful than the combined forces of all of Europe?? Excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I'm not sure the US would win, if every country in Europe declared war on us.


We would kick ass. Besides England, No one in Europe has an army


Hmm...first of all it's Great Britain or the UK if you prefer but not England alone. Also you underestimate France, but I guess you are an anglophone that hates the French? :p If Germany wanted it would have a very strong army, and as I said before it depends if you are considering Russia as part of Europe.

THE FRENCH ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Germany can't have an army. It was part of their surrender after WWII. And Russia's military all got sold to Whatthefuckistan after the Berlin Wall fell. Basically it would be England vs. America, and we all know how that turned out the first two times :wink:


What's wrong with the French? They are well organised, they have nuclear weapons...more than the UK have actually. They have good planes and a decent navy.

I said that Germany could have an army if it wanted to. Believe me they could have nuclear weapons in a couple of weeks if they wanted to as well.

And you are definitely underestimating Russia. They are recovering and in the past years their military machine has got stronger and better organised. Also don't forget that Russia has many more nuclear weapons than the US has.

Btw, UK and US will never fight each other. What two times are you referring to?
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:59 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:
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DIRESTRAITS wrote:Why do you think Europe is more democratic and safer than America? And good point in your last paragraph. I totally agree


It is definitely much safer. Less fire arms, less criminal activity and violent crimes. It's a question of statistics.

More democratic...many reasons. If you look at how the EU works one of its disadvantages might be that it is too democratic! Legislation and changes are implemented too slowly because every member state must agre with a law or it won't be implemented.

Also we are against capital punishment in Europe and that for me is one thing I don't like about the US, although that might fall under human rights I guess.

The death penalty is needed, in my opinion, and makes things much safer. My uncle is a prosecuter in San Diego County and tries cases involving Gang murders. He says that without the death penalty, these crimes would be unpunishable, because the gang members are fine with going to jail.

Also, what are the reasons Europe is more Democratic? I want to know


Did you not listen to what he said? Europe is safer and he proved it.. and the EU requires every nation to approve something before it can be passed.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:01 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:
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DIRESTRAITS wrote:
Jamie wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
I wasnt talking about a majority as far as numbers, but power. And I think I will start a Europeans thread in Flame Wars and see if I am called a racist


The US is more powerful than the combined forces of all of Europe?? Excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I'm not sure the US would win, if every country in Europe declared war on us.


We would kick ass. Besides England, No one in Europe has an army


Hmm...first of all it's Great Britain or the UK if you prefer but not England alone. Also you underestimate France, but I guess you are an anglophone that hates the French? :p If Germany wanted it would have a very strong army, and as I said before it depends if you are considering Russia as part of Europe.

THE FRENCH ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Germany can't have an army. It was part of their surrender after WWII. And Russia's military all got sold to Whatthefuckistan after the Berlin Wall fell. Basically it would be England vs. America, and we all know how that turned out the first two times :wink:


What's wrong with the French? They are well organised, they have nuclear weapons...more than the UK have actually. They have good planes and a decent navy.

I said that Germany could have an army if it wanted to. Believe me they could have nuclear weapons in a couple of weeks if they wanted to as well.

And you are definitely underestimating Russia. They are recovering and in the past years their military machine has got stronger and better organised. Also don't forget that Russia has many more nuclear weapons than the US has.

Btw, UK and US will never fight each other. What two times are you referring to?


As for the French, My little Sister's Barbies could probably beat them. They are the biggest Pussies in the world.

And any first world country could have a sizable army within a year if the really wanted to. The point is Germany doesn't want to.

I know that Russia has more nukes than us, but nukes will never be used again except maybe by terrorists. And I don't think they have the technology to try and take us.

And I'm reffering to the Revolution and The War of 1812.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:16 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:As for the French, My little Sister's Barbies could probably beat them. They are the biggest Pussies in the world.

And any first world country could have a sizable army within a year if the really wanted to. The point is Germany doesn't want to.

I know that Russia has more nukes than us, but nukes will never be used again except maybe by terrorists. And I don't think they have the technology to try and take us.

And I'm reffering to the Revolution and The War of 1812.


Sorry but you are biased. The stereotypical American that hates France and thinks Europe is only the UK actually. Read a bit more about Europe.

French aren't pussies. They are among the world's best. Neither Russia nor France nor any European nation will ever try to take the US and vice versa. If Russia and the US were to go to war the world would end. Studies show that the US would be harder hit than Russia as Russia is twice as large as the US vis-a-vis land size. Some parts of Russia would not be radiated if a nuclear war would break out. But anyway that would mean all would lose and it would be the end of the world.

Revolution...the US (actually Englishmen living in the US btw) won only because Britain was busy with other stuff elsewhere. If Britain wanted it could have wiped out the English who wanted independence. Btw I am assuming that with revolution you mean indepence right? There was no American revolution. Also remember that those that you called pussies (the French) helped the English-Americans achieve their independence. Heck they even gave you your symbol of freedom...the statue of liberty. She's French...did you know that?

1812 war...both nations admit it was a draw. 1812 is more important for Napoleon's demise in Russia than anything else. Read some history mate and get your facts right!
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Re: CC is full of hypocrites

Postby vtmarik on Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:11 am

Jamie wrote:As many of you know, a while back, I posted a thread condeming the practice of homosexuality, and I got blasted for it. I'm not tolerant you said. I'm racist you said (homosexualty isn't a race by the way). I was called every filthy thing there is to be called, for speaking ill of homosexuals. So, after all of that grief I took for everything I wrote in that thread, I wrote a thread that implied Muhammad might have been gay. Now some of the same people that bashed me for calling homosexaulity wrong, bashed me for saying Muhammad was gay. If there is nothing wrong with being gay, and it is ok, and accepted to be gay, then what exactly is wrong with a revered religious leader being merely implied as gay, without actually being so. Alot of people are speaking out both sides of their face. Either it is ok to be gay, or it isn't. The person that is, or isn't gay, should make no difference as to whether it is alright to be gay, or not.


Your post in that thread was of no real value, and was meant solely as an attempt to troll and be a moron. You didn't point to any article, no cited evidence, all you did was call Muhammad a "queer" and referred to him with other various invective slurs.

Next time you decide to make a thread about such a thing, try to actually have something of any real value rather than just a blatant attempt at being an asshole.

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Sure sounded intolerant to me (plus the fact that you made this thread to whine about it instead of doing the adult thing and PMing a mod for an appeal), if that isn't what you meant than perhaps in future you will learn to spin your language in a way that doesn't make you sound like a immature bigot.
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