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Muslims are not commanded to assist non-Muslims. To do so is a waste of money, because they are going to Hell anyway. The Qur'an and Hadith command that money flow either between Muslims or from non-Muslims to Muslims (Qur'an 9:29).

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran ... relief.htm states that neither has the Islamic community ever been particularly keen on disaster relief, even for Muslim victims. This is because the Qur'an teaches that disasters that befall communities are punishment from Allah.

What compelling reason is there to assist Islamic countries in desperate need when they refuse to help their very own? Billions for war, violence, and insurrection; but none for compassion; none for food, shelter, clothing, and medical attention?

1.3 Billion Muslims in the world could resolve the Pakistan tragedy in a New York Minute, but it is practically against their religion to give aid for those suffering from disasters, attributing them to the deity as retribution for wrong-doing.

Muhammad routinely used natural disaster as a threat to compel others to believe in his claim to be a prophet. The Qur'an specifically says that earthquake and famine are sent by Allah as punishment for the sin of the people (usually unbelief). There is no theological basis for helping those whom Allah is trying to hurt.

comic boy wrote:Well here are some facts as opposed to a piece of bigoted bullshit;
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Articl ... /?userkey=

PS There is a large Muslim community in Britain.

billy07 wrote:

comic boy wrote:Well here are some facts as opposed to a piece of bigoted bullshit;
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Articl ... /?userkey=

PS There is a large Muslim community in Britain.

hehe, britain is praised for helping pakistan and you try and spin that into an arguement against the op. whats more alarming to me is that i'm now living in a muslim country!

i think this one just surpassed your own idiocy. it's close, but when you tried to compare what pol pot did as some sort of excuse for muslims commiting genocide. i'm not sure which arguement is worse. ridiculous, irrelevant and bollocks. you certainly are your fathers son

tzor wrote:Pakistan Monsoons--World Muslims Not Helping Muslims

Muslims are not commanded to assist non-Muslims. To do so is a waste of money, because they are going to Hell anyway. The Qur'an and Hadith command that money flow either between Muslims or from non-Muslims to Muslims (Qur'an 9:29).

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran ... relief.htm states that neither has the Islamic community ever been particularly keen on disaster relief, even for Muslim victims. This is because the Qur'an teaches that disasters that befall communities are punishment from Allah.

What compelling reason is there to assist Islamic countries in desperate need when they refuse to help their very own? Billions for war, violence, and insurrection; but none for compassion; none for food, shelter, clothing, and medical attention?

1.3 Billion Muslims in the world could resolve the Pakistan tragedy in a New York Minute, but it is practically against their religion to give aid for those suffering from disasters, attributing them to the deity as retribution for wrong-doing.

Muhammad routinely used natural disaster as a threat to compel others to believe in his claim to be a prophet. The Qur'an specifically says that earthquake and famine are sent by Allah as punishment for the sin of the people (usually unbelief). There is no theological basis for helping those whom Allah is trying to hurt.

tzor wrote:OK then...

Where is the MONEY?
Show me the MONEY!
I don't see the MONEY!

I'm sorry but

I don't see the MONEY!

The UK is not the "Islamic community." Nor is the "British public" the "Islamic community." Unless you can show me the millions that the UK mosques raised, stop making these straw man aruments. Show me the money!

tzor wrote:OK then...

[color=#BF0000][size=200]Where is the MONEY?

tzor wrote:Pakistan Monsoons--World Muslims Not Helping Muslims

Muslims are not commanded to assist non-Muslims. To do so is a waste of money, because they are going to Hell anyway. The Qur'an and Hadith command that money flow either between Muslims or from non-Muslims to Muslims (Qur'an 9:29).

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran ... relief.htm states that neither has the Islamic community ever been particularly keen on disaster relief, even for Muslim victims. This is because the Qur'an teaches that disasters that befall communities are punishment from Allah.

What compelling reason is there to assist Islamic countries in desperate need when they refuse to help their very own? Billions for war, violence, and insurrection; but none for compassion; none for food, shelter, clothing, and medical attention?

1.3 Billion Muslims in the world could resolve the Pakistan tragedy in a New York Minute, but it is practically against their religion to give aid for those suffering from disasters, attributing them to the deity as retribution for wrong-doing.

Muhammad routinely used natural disaster as a threat to compel others to believe in his claim to be a prophet. The Qur'an specifically says that earthquake and famine are sent by Allah as punishment for the sin of the people (usually unbelief). There is no theological basis for helping those whom Allah is trying to hurt.

tzor wrote:Pakistan Monsoons--World Muslims Not Helping Muslims

Muslims are not commanded to assist non-Muslims. To do so is a waste of money, because they are going to Hell anyway. The Qur'an and Hadith command that money flow either between Muslims or from non-Muslims to Muslims (Qur'an 9:29).

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran ... relief.htm states that neither has the Islamic community ever been particularly keen on disaster relief, even for Muslim victims. This is because the Qur'an teaches that disasters that befall communities are punishment from Allah.

What compelling reason is there to assist Islamic countries in desperate need when they refuse to help their very own? Billions for war, violence, and insurrection; but none for compassion; none for food, shelter, clothing, and medical attention?

1.3 Billion Muslims in the world could resolve the Pakistan tragedy in a New York Minute, but it is practically against their religion to give aid for those suffering from disasters, attributing them to the deity as retribution for wrong-doing.

Muhammad routinely used natural disaster as a threat to compel others to believe in his claim to be a prophet. The Qur'an specifically says that earthquake and famine are sent by Allah as punishment for the sin of the people (usually unbelief). There is no theological basis for helping those whom Allah is trying to hurt.

heavycola wrote:

tzor wrote:OK then...

[color=#BF0000][size=200]Where is the MONEY?

Tzor, this is too easy. And quit calling everything a straw man - you don;t even know what the term means.

http://www.justgiving.com/Pakistanflood2010 - individual donations from UK Muslims totalling quarter of a million pounds so far. Read the messages - here is one example: 'May Allah (SWT) help the victims of the flood disaster and help you to continue to do this good work.' Notice how the giver does not say: 'Sorry allah, i know you're punishing these people but i just couldn't help myself'.

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/833223 ... ef_effort/ - Mosques in Oxford, an English city with a small muslim population of around 6,000, have raised £5,000

http://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/CurrentAppeals.aspx - Islamic relief, a UK charity, has a £2 million appeal underway...

These were the first few hits on google. Do you not even do the most cursory due diligence before you spout your bile?

Now please edit your original post. Your baseless bigotry is incredibly offensive.

billy07 wrote:

heavycola wrote:

tzor wrote:OK then...

[color=#BF0000][size=200]Where is the MONEY?

Tzor, this is too easy. And quit calling everything a straw man - you don;t even know what the term means.

http://www.justgiving.com/Pakistanflood2010 - individual donations from UK Muslims totalling quarter of a million pounds so far. Read the messages - here is one example: 'May Allah (SWT) help the victims of the flood disaster and help you to continue to do this good work.' Notice how the giver does not say: 'Sorry allah, i know you're punishing these people but i just couldn't help myself'.

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/833223 ... ef_effort/ - Mosques in Oxford, an English city with a small muslim population of around 6,000, have raised £5,000

http://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/CurrentAppeals.aspx - Islamic relief, a UK charity, has a £2 million appeal underway...

These were the first few hits on google. Do you not even do the most cursory due diligence before you spout your bile?

Now please edit your original post. Your baseless bigotry is incredibly offensive.

these amounts are a drop in the ocean in comparison to what britain as a whole have donated. the £2m raised by islamic relief will mainly have come from white people not wanting a flood (get it?) of pakistani asylumseekers. you have no way of proving who donated what.

i myself have always thought that natural disasters are gods way of punishing the evil among us. i never knew that the qu'ran backed up my theory. strange how most natural disaster over the last decade have happened in islamic countries.

billy07 wrote:i myself have always thought that natural disasters are gods way of punishing the evil among us. i never knew that the qu'ran backed up my theory. strange how most natural disaster over the last decade have happened in islamic countries.

billy07 wrote:another flimsy liberal pile of shit.

heavycola wrote:

billy07 wrote:

heavycola wrote:

tzor wrote:OK then...

[color=#BF0000][size=200]Where is the MONEY?

Tzor, this is too easy. And quit calling everything a straw man - you don;t even know what the term means.

http://www.justgiving.com/Pakistanflood2010 - individual donations from UK Muslims totalling quarter of a million pounds so far. Read the messages - here is one example: 'May Allah (SWT) help the victims of the flood disaster and help you to continue to do this good work.' Notice how the giver does not say: 'Sorry allah, i know you're punishing these people but i just couldn't help myself'.

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/833223 ... ef_effort/ - Mosques in Oxford, an English city with a small muslim population of around 6,000, have raised £5,000

http://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/CurrentAppeals.aspx - Islamic relief, a UK charity, has a £2 million appeal underway...

These were the first few hits on google. Do you not even do the most cursory due diligence before you spout your bile?

Now please edit your original post. Your baseless bigotry is incredibly offensive.

these amounts are a drop in the ocean in comparison to what britain as a whole have donated. the £2m raised by islamic relief will mainly have come from white people not wanting a flood (get it?) of pakistani asylumseekers. you have no way of proving who donated what.

except for the links i posted. And why would 'white people' donate to Islamic Relief? Would you donate to Stormfront's Hurricane Appeal? Actually don't answer that....
f*ck me, billy, you're actually getting stoopider.

i myself have always thought that natural disasters are gods way of punishing the evil among us. i never knew that the qu'ran backed up my theory. strange how most natural disaster over the last decade have happened in islamic countries.

Hahahaha oh my sides... keep it up billy. Despite your fuckwittage you can be good for a laugh.

comic boy wrote:bigoted bullshit;

heavycola wrote:fellow bigots

heavycola wrote:Your baseless bigotry is incredibly offensive.

The Bison King wrote:Racist.

billy07 wrote:i myself have always thought that natural disasters are gods way of punishing the evil among us. i never knew that the qu'ran backed up my theory. strange how most natural disaster over the last decade have happened in islamic countries.

bradleybadly wrote:Now cite something from a politically correct source and join the crusade for utopia.