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Postby 2dimes on Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:35 pm

Well now. This thread is finally taking off so I'll change the title again to reflect what it's about.
The first title was an emotional response to watching the N.G. series on new years day.
The second title reflected my opinion that there are a lot of people these days that try to dilute/deflect from what happened while claiming not to agree with them.
The allies killed people too you know? It was a war.
I don't think the Allies who by the way waited for a few years until they joined the war, in defence of other countries are comparable. First they entered after agreements that were signed as promises were broken. Second if you can't tell the difference from footage and historical documentation readily available I obviously won't be able to explain it so just believe what you wish. You should make up really cool exagerated things, it'll be interesting. I don't believe in an eye for an eye but do agree that it's much more just than acting out of racism and trying to wipe out everyone on their lists.

The third title was to state. "No I still don't think every German including my Great Grandmother was a nazi." In fact I don't see how that statement is different from any other racist assertion. I have personally known a few modern nazis some of them are decendants of actual World war two nazis. Learn to read then exercise the privlege! Unless you were trolling me, in that case award yourself a point.

Finally this title was chosen to take the "scum" accusation away. So let's talk about them for better or worse, shall we?

So there were possibly psuedo nazis maybe even guys on the death squads or what ever that may have been caught up in the war effort but that's starting to be a stretch in my opinion.



Some of you are thinking, "Well duh." but seriously I'm watching some National Geographic shows on them. They built wicked equipment but pretty much everything else about them makes me angry, I even have German blood in me.

The actuall footage is comical, horrifying, sad and facinating all at the same time. Shows how powerfull racism as a force is. Some of the people were likely just sucked in. I'm sure most of them started out with "I don't hate [insert nationality here] but it's them or me." disgusting.

The thing that makes me concerned also is that in Berlin they have erased the Nazi presence. I agree let's get rid of some of it because it's nice to rebuild and move on but I believe that some horrible things left as a reminder are a good idea. Taking it away just lends credance to the likes of "Holocaust deniers." Their whole, "How could they have got away with killing that many people, get real." line would be easier to defeat if you could force them to go to some of the absolute mega structures the nazis had built and ask, "Well, how did they build this using slave labour moran?"
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby 2dimes on Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:39 pm

They're sterilizing gypsey women because they don't believe they deserve to reproduce. I guarantee they're banging those sterilized gypsy women. They just showed a bunch of really hot ones.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby TeletubbyPrince on Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:46 pm

Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth? You are so quick to decry others for their crimes, yet you live in a 1st world country happily consuming resources at the expense of them. Spare me from any more of your hypocritical morals, they are so depressingly moronic and self serving I cannot bare to hear you lament them any further.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby muy_thaiguy on Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:58 pm

TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth? You are so quick to decry others for their crimes, yet you live in a 1st world country happily consuming resources at the expense of them. Spare me from any more of your hypocritical morals, they are so depressingly moronic and self serving I cannot bare to hear you lament them any further.

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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:05 pm

TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth?


Because they have nothing in common whatsoever. The eagle isn't trying to elminate every single sloth on the face of the Earth. If the eagle doesn't eat the sloth, the eagle dies. I'm pretty sure the Nazis wouldn't have died if they hadn't killed so many people.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby 2dimes on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:08 pm

Nice work TrollyMacBaiterson. Are you trying to break into my "Top ten CCer's to invite for a drink." list?

In addition to what Army of God said, it's not like they are killing someone like you that's looking for a smack. It's inocent people they happen to have put on lists strictly based on where they're from, what colour they are or who's in their family tree.

They're showing the farmers being the last to flee belgium, partially because they don't want to leave their work, life and mostly nearly every possesion.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby natty dread on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:29 pm

TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth? You are so quick to decry others for their crimes, yet you live in a 1st world country happily consuming resources at the expense of them. Spare me from any more of your hypocritical morals, they are so depressingly moronic and self serving I cannot bare to hear you lament them any further.


This post is disgustingly racist. You are saying it's ok to kill jews? You're equating some of the most horrible crimes committed on this world to a natural thing, a part of nature and cycle of life.

You're implying that the jews were below the nazis in the food chain, then?

Disgusting. Ban this person.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby azezzo on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:30 pm

2dimes wrote:
The thing that makes me concerned also is that in Berlin they have erased the Nazi presence. I believe that some horrible things left as a reminder are a good idea. Taking it away just lends credance to the likes of "Holocaust deniers." Their whole, "How could they have got away with killing that many people, get real." line would be easier to defeat if you could force them to go to some of the absolute mega structures the nazis had built?"


i whole heartedly agree with this.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby natty dread on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:34 pm

azezzo wrote:
2dimes wrote:
The thing that makes me concerned also is that in Berlin they have erased the Nazi presence. I believe that some horrible things left as a reminder are a good idea. Taking it away just lends credance to the likes of "Holocaust deniers." Their whole, "How could they have got away with killing that many people, get real." line would be easier to defeat if you could force them to go to some of the absolute mega structures the nazis had built?"


i whole heartedly agree with this.


I also agree. We can't pick and choose history: "I don't like this, let's just say it never happened."
"This confuses me, this makes me think too much, let's skip these parts too."

How are we going to learn from the mistakes of the past if we pretend they didn't happen? Nazis did some horrible things in the past. If we're going to sweep it under a carpet because bringing them up might make someone uncomfortable, we're going to end up repeating the same mistakes in the future.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby vodean on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:46 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth?


Because they have nothing in common whatsoever. The eagle isn't trying to elminate every single sloth on the face of the Earth. If the eagle doesn't eat the sloth, the eagle dies. I'm pretty sure the Nazis wouldn't have died if they hadn't killed so many people.

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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby vodean on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:47 pm

natty_dread wrote:
TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth? You are so quick to decry others for their crimes, yet you live in a 1st world country happily consuming resources at the expense of them. Spare me from any more of your hypocritical morals, they are so depressingly moronic and self serving I cannot bare to hear you lament them any further.


This post is disgustingly racist. You are saying it's ok to kill jews? You're equating some of the most horrible crimes committed on this world to a natural thing, a part of nature and cycle of life.

You're implying that the jews were below the nazis in the food chain, then?

Disgusting. Ban this person.

haha. i am so tempted to troll, flame, and be racist over this... :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby 2dimes on Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:01 pm

vodean wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
TeletubbyPrince wrote:rediculas baiting ripe with a little really good psuedo racism rhetoric.


This post is disgustingly racist. You are saying it's ok to kill jews? You're equating some of the most horrible crimes committed on this world to a natural thing, a part of nature and cycle of life.

You're implying that the jews were below the nazis in the food chain, then?

Disgusting. Ban this person.

haha. i am so tempted to troll, flame, and be racist over this... :twisted: :twisted:

+1 vodean, I didn't even have to stalk natty to do it. He came to me. Lawlzers!
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby TeletubbyPrince on Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:23 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth?


Because they have nothing in common whatsoever. The eagle isn't trying to elminate every single sloth on the face of the Earth. If the eagle doesn't eat the sloth, the eagle dies. I'm pretty sure the Nazis wouldn't have died if they hadn't killed so many people.


Earth can support a limited number of people.
Humans will increase in numbers indefinitely.

This presents a problem. Like the eagle, the nazi must kill others in order to secure resources for his kins future survival. If the Jews didn't die yesterday, then someone would have to die tomorrow; what entitles a Jew to live at the expense of tomorrows humanity?

And what gives you sole authority over these matters of morality? Did Ghengish Kahn share your views? What about the Mayans? I'm afraid that your way of thinking is merely the product of an overly pampered liberal society and holds no weight in the grand scheme of things. Continue your circle jerk if you must, but realise what a laughingly innefectual affair it is :lol:
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby natty dread on Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:24 pm

You're making fun of me.

I'm not gonna play with you any more.

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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby 2dimes on Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:57 pm

Get out of my thread Jay or I'll hurt your feelings.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby natty dread on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:06 pm

fgnaz bhrognflf znyharrrd.

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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby 2dimes on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:15 pm

TeletubbyPrince wrote:Earth can support a limited number of people.
Humans will increase in numbers indefinitely.

This presents a problem. Like the eagle, the nazi must kill others in order to secure resources for his kins future survival. If the Jews didn't die yesterday, then someone would have to die tomorrow; what entitles a Jew to live at the expense of tomorrows humanity?

That's a lie perpetuated by those that want an excuse to kill people. Over population, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

Look at high density cities like New York, Tokyo, Cairo. Most people will agree these are great places and wouldn't leave yet you think they're out of resources. Laff owt lawd @ U.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby 2dimes on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:20 pm

natty_dread wrote:fgnaz bhrognflf znyharrrd.

Right back at ya bud.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby natty dread on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:24 pm

2dimes wrote:
natty_dread wrote:fgnaz bhrognflf znyharrrd.

Right back at ya bud.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby 2dimes on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:28 pm

show

This show is called, WWII Apocalipse or something and it's pretty excellent. They're talking about General Leclerc and his men, something American Public schools should be forced to teach about. Another great thing about France.

Don't get me wrong, I laugh at the jokes. "World war II French assault rifle for sale, never fired only dropped once." I also know the truth though.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:43 pm

TeletubbyPrince wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth?


Because they have nothing in common whatsoever. The eagle isn't trying to elminate every single sloth on the face of the Earth. If the eagle doesn't eat the sloth, the eagle dies. I'm pretty sure the Nazis wouldn't have died if they hadn't killed so many people.


Earth can support a limited number of people.
Humans will increase in numbers indefinitely.

This presents a problem. Like the eagle, the nazi must kill others in order to secure resources for his kins future survival. If the Jews didn't die yesterday, then someone would have to die tomorrow; what entitles a Jew to live at the expense of tomorrows humanity?

And what gives you sole authority over these matters of morality? Did Ghengish Kahn share your views? What about the Mayans? I'm afraid that your way of thinking is merely the product of an overly pampered liberal society and holds no weight in the grand scheme of things. Continue your circle jerk if you must, but realise what a laughingly innefectual affair it is :lol:


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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:09 pm

TeletubbyPrince wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth?


Because they have nothing in common whatsoever. The eagle isn't trying to elminate every single sloth on the face of the Earth. If the eagle doesn't eat the sloth, the eagle dies. I'm pretty sure the Nazis wouldn't have died if they hadn't killed so many people.


Earth can support a limited number of people.
Humans will increase in numbers indefinitely.

This presents a problem. Like the eagle, the nazi must kill others in order to secure resources for his kins future survival. If the Jews didn't die yesterday, then someone would have to die tomorrow; what entitles a Jew to live at the expense of tomorrows humanity?


Even if that WAS true, it was not why they killed so many people. They killed them just because they were Jewish or any other bulls*** reason they could think of. That sort of barbaric behavior has no place in civilization.

And so, if I was going to kill someone for the sake of making the world a better place for my family to live in, you would say I'm justified and defend my actions?


And what gives you sole authority over these matters of morality? Did Ghengish Kahn share your views? What about the Mayans? I'm afraid that your way of thinking is merely the product of an overly pampered liberal society and holds no weight in the grand scheme of things. Continue your circle jerk if you must, but realise what a laughingly innefectual affair it is :lol:


Ok, I shall continue my circle jerk. Thank you for letting me.
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby azezzo on Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:13 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
TeletubbyPrince wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
TeletubbyPrince wrote:Why is it wrong when a nazi shoots a Jew, but acceptable when an eagle devours a live sloth?


Because they have nothing in common whatsoever. The eagle isn't trying to elminate every single sloth on the face of the Earth. If the eagle doesn't eat the sloth, the eagle dies. I'm pretty sure the Nazis wouldn't have died if they hadn't killed so many people.


Earth can support a limited number of people.
Humans will increase in numbers indefinitely.

This presents a problem. Like the eagle, the nazi must kill others in order to secure resources for his kins future survival. If the Jews didn't die yesterday, then someone would have to die tomorrow; what entitles a Jew to live at the expense of tomorrows humanity?


Even if that WAS true, it was not why they killed so many people. They killed them just because they were Jewish or any other bulls*** reason they could think of. That sort of barbaric behavior has no place in civilization.

And so, if I was going to kill someone for the sake of making the world a better place for my family to live in, you would say I'm justified and defend my actions?


And what gives you sole authority over these matters of morality? Did Ghengish Kahn share your views? What about the Mayans? I'm afraid that your way of thinking is merely the product of an overly pampered liberal society and holds no weight in the grand scheme of things. Continue your circle jerk if you must, but realise what a laughingly innefectual affair it is :lol:


Ok, I shall continue my circle jerk. Thank you for letting me.


and seriouslyif it was done merely to obtain "resources", then all Hitler would have needed to have done, would have been to order all Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc, to leave Germany, now dont even get me started on the Nazi's use of zyklon b
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Re: The Nazis were really scum.

Postby jay_a2j on Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:26 pm

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