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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:00 pm

Remember, the current residents of Israel are descendants of Eastern Europeans who converted from Paganism to Judaism well after the death of Christ.

These are not the Jews of Biblical times who brought down the walls of Jericho or defended Jerusalem from Sennacherib. And they have a homeland: Eastern Europe.

... it is likely that the ancestry of most contemporary Jews stems mainly from outside the Land of Israel and that a "nation-race" of Jews with a common origin never existed, and that just as most Christians and Muslims are the progeny of converted people, not of the first Christians and Muslims, Jews are also descended from converts. According to Sand, Judaism was originally, like its two cousins, a proselytising religion, and mass conversions to Judaism occurred among the Khazars in the Caucasus, Berber tribes in North Africa, and in the Himyarite Kingdom of the Arabian Peninsula.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inven ... ish_People


Israel's skin cancer rate is the second highest in the world, due largely to low melatonin levels in the skin of the inhabitants, who have skin tones similar to Swedes and Finns while living in the middle of a desert. This is the only case that exists of a people "indigenous" to a desert being extraordinarily susceptible to skin cancer.

Frank Herbert commented on the make-believe nativity of modern Israelites to the state currently called "Israel" in the Dune series when he created the "Museum Fremen" that existed 1,000 years after Dune was brought under control and who aped the characteristics of the now long-extinct Fremen of antiquity.
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Re: Israel

Postby Pack Rat on Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:05 pm

HitRed wrote:
December 30, 23 Adoration

God the Father

I tell of things from of old, ages past, but not forgotten. I have slipped away from the thoughts and hearts of men. How easily does man turn from his God. The only true God of Israel that goes back farther than time itself. How have men forgotten the lessons of old times past of those who dared to turn away from the God of Israel? I shall enter again as I did long ago to regain hearts that have strayed and those who have turned away. Gone are the days of old and the same lessons are having to be learned once again by this generation. The hearts of men go like the wind. I am the King of all hearts!



No worries HitRed, God has delivered our 2nd Coming of Moses!

Praise God!

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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:16 pm

The Qassam Brigades have recaptured Beit Hanoun from the IDF.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... bedbdf0000

Non stop carpet bombing with U.S. weapons for two months and an army that outnumbers the Qassam Brigades 20:1 and the IDF is still losing ground battles. This is stunning. All these IDF reservists fresh off the plane from Brooklyn and Santa Monica and their jobs at Goldman Sachs and MGM aren't performing as well as anticipated.
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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:46 pm

Weeb Union is the most balanced and current.

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Re: Israel

Postby Votanic on Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:01 pm

saxitoxin wrote:The Qassam Brigades have recaptured Beit Hanoun from the IDF.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... bedbdf0000

Non stop carpet bombing with U.S. weapons for two months and an army that outnumbers the Qassam Brigades 20:1 and the IDF is still losing ground battles. This is stunning. All these IDF reservists fresh off the plane from Brooklyn and Santa Monica and their jobs at Goldman Sachs and MGM aren't performing as well as anticipated.

Wouldn't it make better economic sense to just hire Hamas as mercenaries and then go back to their cushy jobs in the States?
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:01 pm

HitRed wrote:Weeb Union is the most balanced and current.



This was a good video.

Of note:

- "The Israelis cannot fight the Gazan ground forces to a win."
- "Despite three months of this war, the Hamas forces show they are able to continue fighting."
- "The Israelis are focused on taking out Hamas leadership."

I'm not sure that will work. While the battlefield leadership of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades is located in Gaza, the Consultation Council of the Resistance is largely located outside the country. Therefore, all battlefield vacancies in Qassam C&C should be replaceable by promotions from party leadership as long as they can continue to transmit orders to the front? But what do I know.
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Re: Israel

Postby riskllama on Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:17 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
Votanic wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:So, no real plan?

So, no real answer?

...but I'm sure another 1000 posts going around in self-serving circles will solve everything.


So, no circle jerk?


I got you, mook :

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Re: Israel

Postby Votanic on Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:37 pm

riskllama wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
Votanic wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:So, no real plan?

So, no real answer?

...but I'm sure another 1000 posts going around in self-serving circles will solve everything.


So, no circle jerk?


I got you, mook :


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Re: Israel

Postby kennyp72 on Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:46 pm

saxitoxin wrote:The Qassam Brigades have recaptured Beit Hanoun from the IDF.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... bedbdf0000

Non stop carpet bombing with U.S. weapons for two months and an army that outnumbers the Qassam Brigades 20:1 and the IDF is still losing ground battles. This is stunning. All these IDF reservists fresh off the plane from Brooklyn and Santa Monica and their jobs at Goldman Sachs and MGM aren't performing as well as anticipated.


That article is behind a paywall unfortunately.
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Re: Israel

Postby GaryDenton on Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:23 pm

If you occupy a people expect resistance.

My not very popular opinions.

Hamas lost any world sympathy with its barbaric initial attack.

However, Israel lost any sympathy with its constant lies at the beginning of the conflict. Example: The mass killing at a hospital where for hours IDF claimed credit they had attacked Hamas set up at the hospital, then when the extent of casualties proked horror they switched to claiming a malfunctioning Hamas rocket and as proof posted a video of a rocket with a time stamp showing it was not the rocket. They were silent on hospital doctors and administrators saying in the preceding two days IDF told them they would attack and to evacuate immediately.

IDF's constant attacks on civilian targets, the harsh unpopular authoritarian government, and the rejection of a two-state solution lost Democratic support for Israel, except for the White House which quietly kept urging restraint while publicly supporting their actions and condemning Hamas.

Decades ago I decided Israel was like an abused child which when it had the chance inflicted the abuse it suffered on others. The is little difference between the Jewish ghettoes of the 30s and 40s and occupied Palestine except Israel hasn't set up death camps. Admittedly, that is a big difference.

After Yitzhak Rabin, Israel has not had decent leadership and Netanyahu is a corrupt authoritarian personal friend of Trump. Birds of a feather flock together.

We give way too much aid to Israel but AIPAC is the most powerful political lobby.
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Re: Israel

Postby Votanic on Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:09 pm

GaryDenton wrote:Hamas lost any world sympathy with its barbaric initial attack.

However, Israel lost any sympathy with its constant lies...

Yes, of course, if you get right down to it, everybody is selfish, dishonest and cruel. In a word, they suck.

GaryDenton wrote:Decades ago I decided Israel was like an abused child which when it had the chance inflicted the abuse it suffered on others.

Indeed, are we not all victims victimizing victims victimizing victims victimizing victims victimizing victims victimizing victims...
Flip that around, and you will discover, we are all also villains villainizing villains villainizing villains villainizing villains....

Warning: At this point, the rats will start trying to make virtue-signalling BS exceptions for self, friends, and family... YUCK.

So why not just put the victims out of their misery and give the villains their just desserts? Besides we've already established that humanity sucks.

Actually, a Final, Cataclysmic, Planet-scorching Thermo-nuclear Genocide will be the closest humanity ever gets to True Justice, True Peace, and yes, even True Love.
One would have to be a demented sado-masochist to find any objection with that.
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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:24 pm

the forgotten war
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:25 pm

Gary and saxi agree on something?!?!

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Re: Israel

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:01 am

saxitoxin wrote:Remember, the current residents of Israel are descendants of Eastern Europeans who converted from Paganism to Judaism well after the death of Christ.

These are not the Jews of Biblical times who brought down the walls of Jericho or defended Jerusalem from Sennacherib. And they have a homeland: Eastern Europe.

... it is likely that the ancestry of most contemporary Jews stems mainly from outside the Land of Israel and that a "nation-race" of Jews with a common origin never existed, and that just as most Christians and Muslims are the progeny of converted people, not of the first Christians and Muslims, Jews are also descended from converts. According to Sand, Judaism was originally, like its two cousins, a proselytising religion, and mass conversions to Judaism occurred among the Khazars in the Caucasus, Berber tribes in North Africa, and in the Himyarite Kingdom of the Arabian Peninsula.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inven ... ish_People


Israel's skin cancer rate is the second highest in the world, due largely to low melatonin levels in the skin of the inhabitants, who have skin tones similar to Swedes and Finns while living in the middle of a desert. This is the only case that exists of a people "indigenous" to a desert being extraordinarily susceptible to skin cancer.

Frank Herbert commented on the make-believe nativity of modern Israelites to the state currently called "Israel" in the Dune series when he created the "Museum Fremen" that existed 1,000 years after Dune was brought under control and who aped the characteristics of the now long-extinct Fremen of antiquity.


I hope that the readers here realize that saxi is up to his usual peddling of Fake News and more obfuscation. This is all based on ONE book and not all experts in this field of study agree of the validity of this idea. In fact, some criticize the book's author, Shlomo Sand, as not being an expert in this field of Jewish history.

Various quotes from the saxi source (Wkikpedia):

According to Ilani, most of Sand's book deals with the question of where the Jews come from, rather than questions of modern Jewish nationalism and the modern invention — according to Sand — of the Jewish people."[18] Therefore, some historians of Judaism have stated that Sand is dealing with subjects about which he has no understanding, and that he bases his book on work that he is incapable of reading in the original languages.[18]

Sand admits that he is "a historian of France and Europe, and not of the ancient period…"[18] and that he has "been criticized in Israel for writing about Jewish history when European history is my specialty.


Michael Balter, reviewing the study in the journal Science, says the following:

… Shlomo Sand of Tel Aviv University in Israel argues in his book The Invention of the Jewish People, translated into English last year, that most modern Jews do not descend from the ancient Land of Israel but from groups that took on Jewish identities long afterward. Nevertheless, the study by Ostrer's group concluded that all three Jewish groups—Middle Eastern, Sephardic, and Ashkenazi—share genomewide genetic markers that distinguish them from other worldwide populations.[4]

Geneticist Harry Ostrer presented findings that were generally viewed as disproving Sand's notion that the Jewish people is an ex-post invention.[38][39] Ostrer said, "I would hope that these observations would put the idea that Jewishness is just a cultural construct to rest."


Professor Michael Berkowitz from University College London wrote "With a little critical distance, it is possible to criticize this book as a far cry from a ‘real’ work of scholarship. It is flimsy, haphazardly built, slap-dash. There is no foundation in archival research, and Sand does not seem to have fully read (or understood) many of the secondary works on which his thesis relies.


Historian Anita Shapira criticizes Sand for regularly "grab(bing) at the most unorthodox theory" in a field and then stretching it "to the outer limits of logic and beyond" during Sand's survey of three thousand years of history.[28] Shapira says that Sand's political program makes the book an attempt to "drag history into a topical argument, and with the help of misrepresentations and half-truths to adapt it to the needs of a political discussion."[28]

Wow, NO wonder saxi loves this book so much. It uses many of his favorite techniques, as noted just above by historian Anita Shapira.
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:37 pm

Israel-Palestine genocide summed up in 30 seconds:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1zaDNRI ... F0bTR3Y3Nh
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Re: Israel

Postby Votanic on Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:09 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:Israel-Palestine genocide summed up in 30 seconds:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1zaDNRI ... F0bTR3Y3Nh

Aww, that's cute, ralf.
But more importantly, I'm here to remind you to accept the invite for your doubles game (#22950980). It behooves you to do so.

I'm not going o ask if you're scared, because I aready know you are. All the same, it is your responsibility to show up and receive you're beating.
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:13 pm

The New York Police have discovered and stopped a radical Zionist group from digging a secret network of tunnels underneath New York City for unknown purposes. The radical Zionists began the tunnelling project - which was conducted in secret and without notifying city officials - three years ago. The city is now moving to fill the tunnels with concrete.

Another 9/11 averted?

So far no one has claimed that this was planning for a terrorist attack that would be blamed on Palestinians to get the U.S. to intervene in Israel's losing war.

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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:18 pm

The excuse now being given is that a group of 19-21 year-old rabbinical students had dug a sprawling network of underground tunnels over an entire neighborhood in Brooklyn so they could get into the synagogue after hours.

How far down the rabbi hole will this go?

The headquarters was also the epicenter of the 1991 Crown Heights riots, which began after a 7-year-old boy was struck and killed by a car in the rabbi's motorcade.

https://abc7ny.com/chabad-headquarters- ... /14301084/
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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:59 pm


Weeb Union

War Stream also has one but you need to click the link.
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:47 pm

From an Israeli magazine -

Several of the sources, who spoke to +972 and Local Call on the condition of anonymity, confirmed that the Israeli army has files on the vast majority of potential targets in Gaza — including homes — which stipulate the number of civilians who are likely to be killed in an attack on a particular target. This number is calculated and known in advance to the army’s intelligence units, who also know shortly before carrying out an attack roughly how many civilians are certain to be killed.

In one case discussed by the sources, the Israeli military command knowingly approved the killing of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in an attempt to assassinate a single top Hamas military commander. “The numbers increased from dozens of civilian deaths [permitted] as collateral damage as part of an attack on a senior official in previous operations, to hundreds of civilian deaths as collateral damage,” said one source.

According to the investigation, another reason for the large number of targets, and the extensive harm to civilian life in Gaza, is the widespread use of a system called “Habsora” (“The Gospel”), which is largely built on artificial intelligence and can “generate” targets almost automatically at a rate that far exceeds what was previously possible. This AI system, as described by a former intelligence officer, essentially facilitates a “mass assassination factory.”

In the majority of cases, the sources added, military activity is not conducted from these targeted homes. “I remember thinking that it was like if [Palestinian militants] would bomb all the private residences of our families when [Israeli soldiers] go back to sleep at home on the weekend,” one source, who was critical of this practice, recalled.

https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassinati ... bing-gaza/


Meanwhile, the prosecution of the Zionist entity began at the ICC last week:

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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:16 pm

inb4 Duk blames Hamas for the IDF's choice of tactics
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Re: Israel

Postby Votanic on Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:03 am

saxitoxin wrote:

When is the World (especially Englando-Irelandish parts of said World) going to wake up and realize that wearing hopelessly outdated and fake-looking, fugly-ass wigs is in NO WAY WHATSOEVER appropriate courtroom attire. Look, I event spent a wasted moment trying to re-frame this as the preservation of some sort of quaint 'old world' custom, but NO! A thousand times, no, no, no. It just looks STUPID!
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Re: Israel

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:29 am

saxitoxin wrote:
How far down the rabbi hole will this go?


I have to acknowledge that I did laugh at this joke; good one, saxi.
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Re: Israel

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:41 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:inb4 Duk blames Hamas for the IDF's choice of tactics

I'm sorry that in your pampered upper-class world, soldiers should be careful to escort innocent bystanders to a BMW limousine and take them to a hotel for safekeeping before going in to their house to remove the terrorist snipers on the third floor.

People who deal in the real world know why that isn't a smart way to do things, but I'm not going to waste my breath trying to explain to an upper-class fop.
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:17 pm

Right on cue :lol:

In your hypothetical example of a sniper in a house, are you supporting the IDF tactic of simply bombing the entire street until you can't see anything moving?

As much as the US/UK invasion of Iraq was diabolical and resulted in 1 million+ deaths in total, even the US military (not exactly known for being clinical) managed to invade and capture cities without nearly the level of civilian death or displacement that the IDF is causing in Gaza.
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