coronavirus - The Legacy

[jimboston]

... and then you take away 80% of what I said red herrings and tangents

FTFY

I don’t like you and I’m not playing anymore.

[mrswdk]

You do tend to concede in some very ungracious ways, jim. You might want to work on that.

[2dimes]

Consider yourself lucky he can't push you off the slide.

[jimboston]

You do tend to concede in some very ungracious ways, jim. You might want to work on that.

The only thing I conceded to is that fact that I saw your trap and still proceeded.

Oh wait, I also conceded that you’re an ass.

Finally.. why you gotta try and like cross contaminate the threads?

[Dukasaur]

[Dukasaur]

My friend died of Covid last Saturday. If this is hoax, I'm not laughing.

[2dimes]

My friend died of Covid last Saturday. If this is hoax, I'm not laughing.

I'm not happy to read that Duke, my confolences.

I am very fourtunate. So far, that is the closest connection I have to a serious Corona related incident.

It seems possible that Alberta is fairly isolated from much of the planet, even though there are still a few people coming and going. That might be helping since, some folks I know are not taking it as serious as they probably should. Other people I know are panicking a bit, which is probably better.

I find it interesting some people are still saying things like, "The flu is worse." "Most of the people who died had something else." Um, yeah most of us have "something else."

Just because statistically other things have caused more deaths does not make Covid-19 harmless. Also deflecting the blame to pneumonia or whatever is odd when often the person would not have died from the other thing if they had not contracted the virus in addition.

I feel like people should at least be practicing for something worse. If a more serious virus starts spreading in the future, I suspect some will again ignore suggestions to quarentine and it might spread way more than it would if everyone would try harder to avoid contact with the general public for a few months.

Then again I used to wash my hands and stay home when I was ill before this.

[jonesthecurl]

My son's girlfriend told me that her family back in NJ got together for Thanksgiving and now 15 of them have tested positive. Thankfully she, the curlson, and the curlsonette didn't attend. I don't have an update on how serious the cases are.

[2dimes]

I would be quite a bit more concerned and cautious somewhere like New Jersey or New York.

One thing that maybe should be discussed more is how it is a version of SARS and not a new thing. So even if you develop immunity to this strain. You might still get the next mutation.

[riskllama]

oh man - that is rather damning, isn't it...

[HitRed]

My friend died of Covid last Saturday. If this is hoax, I'm not laughing.

Prayed for his family during Mass today.

[Dukasaur]

My friend died of Covid last Saturday. If this is hoax, I'm not laughing.

Prayed for his family during Mass today.

Thank you.

[mookiemcgee]

Maybe nicotine will turn out to be the miracle cure. We shall see. Until we start getting some results from some studies testing nicotine in non-smokers, I'll reserve judgement.

Finally turning the corner towards some studies nearing their completion dates... Obvs a vaccine is 'better', but the link between lower transmission/hospitalization rates and nicotine in a persons body persists.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04583410

Study Completion Date : June 2022

[jusplay4fun]

Despite lockdowns and restrictions, cases rise in NJ and NY:

New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy said he’s holding off on easing more pandemic restrictions as case counts surge to the highest in the nation, prompting New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio to urge similar precautions.

......SKIP TO......

Later, Cuomo said that he didn’t plan to lift restaurant capacity beyond 50%, which is consistent with neighboring New Jersey. Cuomo said Connecticut now allows full indoor dining but that he’s more aligned with New Jersey’s approach. “I’m comfortable with that,” Cuomo said during a call with reporters Monday.

As of March 21, New Jersey has the highest seven-day case rate in the nation, with 314.5 per 100,000 residents, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data. New York’s seven-day case rate stood at 213.8 per 100,000 residents as of March 21, the highest after New Jersey and Rhode Island, CDC data show. New York City is higher, at 260.6 cases per 100,000 residents.

New Jersey and New York experienced a surge of cases and hospitalizations in December and January with the colder weather and holidays. While data has improved since then, recovery is slow as Murphy and Cuomo seek the proper balance of restrictions.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ounts-rise

I would be quite a bit more concerned and cautious somewhere like New Jersey or New York.

One thing that maybe should be discussed more is how it is a version of SARS and not a new thing. So even if you develop immunity to this strain. You might still get the next mutation.

[jusplay4fun]

Despite lockdowns and restrictions, cases rise in NJ and NY (2021):

New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy said he’s holding off on easing more pandemic restrictions as case counts surge to the highest in the nation, prompting New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio to urge similar precautions.

......SKIP TO......

Later, Cuomo said that he didn’t plan to lift restaurant capacity beyond 50%, which is consistent with neighboring New Jersey. Cuomo said Connecticut now allows full indoor dining but that he’s more aligned with New Jersey’s approach. “I’m comfortable with that,” Cuomo said during a call with reporters Monday.

As of March 21, New Jersey has the highest seven-day case rate in the nation, with 314.5 per 100,000 residents, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data. New York’s seven-day case rate stood at 213.8 per 100,000 residents as of March 21, the highest after New Jersey and Rhode Island, CDC data show. New York City is higher, at 260.6 cases per 100,000 residents.

New Jersey and New York experienced a surge of cases and hospitalizations in December and January with the colder weather and holidays. While data has improved since then, recovery is slow as Murphy and Cuomo seek the proper balance of restrictions.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ounts-rise

I would be quite a bit more concerned and cautious somewhere like New Jersey or New York.

One thing that maybe should be discussed more is how it is a version of SARS and not a new thing. So even if you develop immunity to this strain. You might still get the next mutation.

[Dukasaur]

Maybe nicotine will turn out to be the miracle cure. We shall see. Until we start getting some results from some studies testing nicotine in non-smokers, I'll reserve judgement.

Finally turning the corner towards some studies nearing their completion dates... Obvs a vaccine is 'better', but the link between lower transmission/hospitalization rates and nicotine in a persons body persists.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04583410

Study Completion Date : June 2022

Even if it turns out there is some protective effect, the term "miracle cure" will still be wildly overblown.

[mookiemcgee]

Maybe nicotine will turn out to be the miracle cure. We shall see. Until we start getting some results from some studies testing nicotine in non-smokers, I'll reserve judgement.

Finally turning the corner towards some studies nearing their completion dates... Obvs a vaccine is 'better', but the link between lower transmission/hospitalization rates and nicotine in a persons body persists.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04583410

Study Completion Date : June 2022

Even if it turns out there is some protective effect, the term "miracle cure" will still be wildly overblown.

I stand by it... Miracle cure, MSM lies prevent you from understanding the nicotine patch could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives (short term, they would have still died early from cancer... but less early). Just open you eyes Duk, as George Carlin said 'Nicotine is the miracle cure for covid'.

[jusplay4fun]

Despite lockdowns and restrictions, cases rise in NJ and NY (2021):

New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy said he’s holding off on easing more pandemic restrictions as case counts surge to the highest in the nation, prompting New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio to urge similar precautions.

......SKIP TO......

Later, Cuomo said that he didn’t plan to lift restaurant capacity beyond 50%, which is consistent with neighboring New Jersey. Cuomo said Connecticut now allows full indoor dining but that he’s more aligned with New Jersey’s approach. “I’m comfortable with that,” Cuomo said during a call with reporters Monday.

As of March 21, New Jersey has the highest seven-day case rate in the nation, with 314.5 per 100,000 residents, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data. New York’s seven-day case rate stood at 213.8 per 100,000 residents as of March 21, the highest after New Jersey and Rhode Island, CDC data show. New York City is higher, at 260.6 cases per 100,000 residents.

New Jersey and New York experienced a surge of cases and hospitalizations in December and January with the colder weather and holidays. While data has improved since then, recovery is slow as Murphy and Cuomo seek the proper balance of restrictions.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ounts-rise

I would be quite a bit more concerned and cautious somewhere like New Jersey or New York.

One thing that maybe should be discussed more is how it is a version of SARS and not a new thing. So even if you develop immunity to this strain. You might still get the next mutation.

The State of Michigan, which, as far as know, still has restrictive measures in place, is now the state of great concern by health officials:

Great graphs here:
Tracking Coronavirus in Michigan: Latest Map and Case Count
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/michigan-covid-cases.html

Michigan COVID-19 cases rise for seventh consecutive week
Sarah Rahal
The Detroit News
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/04/10/michigan-covid-19-cases-rise-seven-consecutive-weeks/7160908002/

And does anyone STILL believe that the virus is HYPE? or merely that some of the (very high) numbers of cases and deaths MAY BE Hyped?

[Dukasaur]

In the beginning the people dying were anonymous and far away.

The first person I knew to be hit by covid was an internet friend of mine, a team-mate from the online game I played before I came here, who lost his father. Sad, but not close.

Then a distant friend of my mother's family died. Still not close, but closer.

The first hit that covid got on me was last spring, during the first lockdown. My wife was admitted to the hospital with stroke-like symptoms. Due to the lockdown, the hospitals had a strict No Visitors policy. So my wife was in there by herself, confused and disoriented, with no familiar face to keep her grounded and nobody to speak for her. It was scary enough for me, but it was terrifying for her. I think that was the height of inhumanity. Not directly the result of covid but due to the hospital lockdown. Closer.

Then a friend of mine at work was struck by a car and suffered life-threatening injuries. After the first scary 24 hours, all the news was good. He was recovering beautifully. They thought he'd be out of commission for a few months but that he would eventually make a full recovery. Then that hospital had a covid outbreak. He got it, and it killed him. People downplaying the virus would say that the accident killed him. In fact, that's what they put in his obituary, but it wasn't true. He was recovering nicely from the accident and would have been eventually up and walking if the covid hadn't gotten him.

Then my aunt got covid. She didn't die, but she lost her sense of taste and even after several months it hasn't come back. She thinks she may have permanently lost the ability to enjoy food. She's a snotty bitch who hasn't spoken to me in 25 years, so I'm not heartbroken. Still, closer.

The latest blow was two weeks ago. A friend of our family died. His wife was a teaching assistant who got covid at the school she works at. Brought it home, hubby caught it. They both had a bad case, both hospitalized in ICU. She survived, he did not. In his early 60s, which is not old in our society. Active, outdoorsy type of guy, not someone you'd pencil in for early death. Very bad outcome for him, but in some ways worse for the wife. Not only has she lost her husband, but she's tormented by the feelings of guilt that she was the one who brought the virus home. Absolutely distraught. I can't imagine how crushingly bad that must feel.

Not a hoax, not hype. Pain for a lot of people.

[HitRed]

At this time the infection rates are falling with a few notable exceptions. Looking back, all pandemics end. We all went through it in different ways. Our daily lives changed and will be changed forever.

HitRed

[jonesthecurl]

If you look globally new cases and deaths are rising again.

[Dukasaur]

Thanks for updating the thread title.

[jonesthecurl]

At this time the infection rates are falling with a few notable exceptions. Looking back, all pandemics end. We all went through it in different ways. Our daily lives changed and will be changed forever.

HitRed

In fact, globally, I believe we hit a new record for new cases yesterday.

[jusplay4fun]

I think it's hilarious this is happening during the impeachment trial. The Rats knew a conviction was impossible due to the votes in the Senate but they forged ahead because they saw that there was still PR value. They spent six months on this master plan publicity stunt and, now, when it's in motion it's being pushed so far down in the headlines it will barely register with the public in a couple days when it fizzles out with a whimper.

We see another example of Saxi's great skill as a prognosticator. Keep 'em coming, Saxi.

Saxi, you can blame the Trump loss on this publicity stunt. Try to not look at the world through the narrow lens of Trump politics.

Once in awhile, it is good to reflect back on where we were recently.

[The ram]

Lockdown is easing in Britain. You can sit outside a pub and have a drink now. Another 4 weeks and you can go into the pub, there will obviously be restrictions and social distancing but all that goes out the window once the great British public have a skinful, thank God.

I don't think we've heard the last of this by a long way in Europe. I see the media already scaremongering about all these different strains and how the vaccine doesn't work so well on them. Setting the scene for next winter's lockdown. It could be a case of having the vaccine next winter and everything returns to normal, I don't think so, though.