Ron Paul Is Toast

[Ham]

I wouldnt underestimate them.
Japan would probably do something.

And besides we're bankrupting ourselves with all of these bases.

[muy_thaiguy]

I wouldnt underestimate them.
Japan would probably do something.

And besides we're bankrupting ourselves with all of these bases.

Japan wouldn't be able to do much, unless it was absolutely unavoidable. Remember, all they have is a "police force."

[mybike_yourface]

Ron Paul is toast...sorry jay and other Ron Paul supporters. There is no way in hell this guy is getting elected, especially after I watched the FOX debate on my lunch. His answers are now absurd, the body politic has changed. It is too late, we are already in alliances...that is the reality of the situation, and to revert back to a non interventionist policy would severely cripple us. Ron Paul's answer to the Iranian incident seemed quite absurd. He can't just start comparing this incident with the Gulf of Tonkin!

I am no longer supporting Ron Paul...

If not Ron Paul...then who?

is that a picture of The Drizzit i see? apparently he's a grey elf now and ebony skin is impossible for an artist to depict.

[DaGip]

Ron Paul is toast...sorry jay and other Ron Paul supporters. There is no way in hell this guy is getting elected, especially after I watched the FOX debate on my lunch. His answers are now absurd, the body politic has changed. It is too late, we are already in alliances...that is the reality of the situation, and to revert back to a non interventionist policy would severely cripple us. Ron Paul's answer to the Iranian incident seemed quite absurd. He can't just start comparing this incident with the Gulf of Tonkin!

I am no longer supporting Ron Paul...

If not Ron Paul...then who?

is that a picture of The Drizzit i see? apparently he's a grey elf now and ebony skin is impossible for an artist to depict.

That statement was made before about this particular work of art, however, I find it to be the best original piece of artwork done on the subject of Drizzt, despite the skin color...also, you should keep in mind that Drizzt did have a magical mask that allowed him to appear as a normal elf.


But how this relates to Ron Paul, I don't know?

[DaGip]

You know, he's not the only candidate against the war.

Psah, they can't go and be voting for DEMOCRATS, can they? Everybody knows democrats are communists!

Srry for the delay in the reply.

Im not talking about just Iraq. Im talking about what his position is. U.S. forces out of all countries.

And that's a bad thing?

Not great - South Korea would be fucked.

To say the least.

Ron Paul thinks we should pull all our troops out of all foreign lands and bring them home. That would mean North and South Korea would fight each other and become unified, probably communist. Ron Paul is okay with that, he points out Vietnam as the example...Ron Paul has the tendency to lump his understanding about war into the Vietnam category, I think that that is laudible ignorance.

[muy_thaiguy]

You know, he's not the only candidate against the war.

Psah, they can't go and be voting for DEMOCRATS, can they? Everybody knows democrats are communists!

Srry for the delay in the reply.

Im not talking about just Iraq. Im talking about what his position is. U.S. forces out of all countries.

And that's a bad thing?

Not great - South Korea would be fucked.

To say the least.

Ron Paul thinks we should pull all our troops out of all foreign lands and bring them home. That would mean North and South Korea would fight each other and become unified, probably communist. Ron Paul is okay with that, he points out Vietnam as the example...Ron Paul has the tendency to lump his understanding about war into the Vietnam category, I think that that is laudible ignorance.

Especially considering that once we pulled out of Vietnam, nearly 3 million people were killed, and that North Korea isn't exactly in the best of shape, both economically and citizen wise. Military wise, it has quite a large force for such a small nation, and if South Korea was left to it's own, it would put up a tough fight, but they would probably be overwhelmed.

[jay_a2j]

In case you missed it:

Da Gip with all due respect, it just doesn't make sense to me. I will address the "war on terror" in a moment but first and foremost I'll address what is the more important issue our freedom. The Patriot Act, under the guise of protecting Americans from terrorism, will be used to enslave many people in this country. It is very clear to me. The National ID card will be required, if you don't have one you can and will be arrested as a terrorist. At some point a chip will be required. Eventually you will be taken to a Fema camp with the other "terrorists".

I also am certain that we cannot stop or even change this path we are on. It all lines up with what the Bible says about the end times. Satan will rule the world for a brief time. You will "take the mark" on your right hand or "forehead" or you will be put to death. Those who refuse to take the mark will be saved. It is the number of the beast. Even though Ron Paul can not stop this from happening, he is the only one standing up against it!

The "war on terror". I was a Bush supporter and I was for going into Afghanistan. Questioned going into Iraq but eventually got on board. Then talk about invading Iran started and all of the sudden I started to wake up. After looking up a lot of things related to 911 and getting no answers to explain the unexplainable, I realized that our government had to be involved in bringing those towers down. But I had to find out why? Why would they do this? Well, it's what is called a "False Flag". Governments throughout history have staged "terrorist" attacks in order to scare their populations into giving up their freedoms. 911 led us to believe we were after terrorists. Not securing oil or setting up permanent bases in the Middle East which I believe are the REAL reasons we are over there, although we have been told, we are there to fight terrorists.

Take a hard look at all the people running for President. Research them. Find out which one's are members of the CFR. Because every president "elected" has some ties to the people that really control the government. You are right, Ron Paul does not have a chance, they would never let him win. So, I should vote for someone who is going to take us into WWIII, because IT WILL HAPPEN but if Ron Paul was President it won't happen under his watch.


Ron Paul won't win. But I will stand by his side because of what he stands for. Protecting our freedoms and liberties because some day soon we won't have any.




Paul has NOT changed his stance on ANYTHING. So, how could you have ever supported him Da Gip? And having all those troops, all over the world won't due us a bit of good when our economy crashes! Maybe when you pay $25.00 for a loaf of bread you will realize that OUR country should come before policing the world!

[unriggable]

In case you missed it:

Da Gip with all due respect, it just doesn't make sense to me. I will address the "war on terror" in a moment but first and foremost I'll address what is the more important issue our freedom. The Patriot Act, under the guise of protecting Americans from terrorism, will be used to enslave many people in this country. (1) It is very clear to me. The National ID card will be required, if you don't have one you can and will be arrested as a terrorist. (2) At some point a chip will be required. Eventually you will be taken to a Fema camp with the other "terrorists".

I also am certain that we cannot stop or even change this path we are on. It all lines up with what the Bible says about the end times. Satan will rule the world for a brief time. (3) You will "take the mark" on your right hand or "forehead" or you will be put to death. Those who refuse to take the mark will be saved. It is the number of the beast. Even though Ron Paul can not stop this from happening, he is the only one standing up against it! (4)

The "war on terror". I was a Bush supporter and I was for going into Afghanistan. Questioned going into Iraq but eventually got on board. Then talk about invading Iran started and all of the sudden I started to wake up. After looking up a lot of things related to 911 and getting no answers to explain the unexplainable, I realized that our government had to be involved in bringing those towers down. But I had to find out why? Why would they do this? Well, it's what is called a "False Flag". Governments throughout history have staged "terrorist" attacks in order to scare their populations into giving up their freedoms. 911 led us to believe we were after terrorists. Not securing oil or setting up permanent bases in the Middle East which I believe are the REAL reasons we are over there, although we have been told, we are there to fight terrorists.

Take a hard look at all the people running for President. Research them. Find out which one's are members of the CFR. Because every president "elected" has some ties to the people that really control the government. You are right, Ron Paul does not have a chance, they would never let him win. So, I should vote for someone who is going to take us into WWIII, because IT WILL HAPPEN but if Ron Paul was President it won't happen under his watch. (5)


Ron Paul won't win. But I will stand by his side because of what he stands for. Protecting our freedoms and liberties because some day soon we won't have any. (6)




Paul has NOT changed his stance on ANYTHING. So, how could you have ever supported him Da Gip? And having all those troops, all over the world won't due us a bit of good when our economy crashes! Maybe when you pay $25.00 for a loaf of bread you will realize that OUR country should come before policing the world!

(1) Kucinich, along with Paul, also votes against the Patriot Act.

(2) The only people who are for this are non-libertarian Republicans, namely the other presidential candidates.

(3) You shouldn't use acid dreams like Revelations to justify voting for a longshot candidate.

(4) Not true. Besides, wouldn't that be getting in the way of God's divine plan? God planned the end of times, and I don't think a man in his 70's is going to stop it.

(5) Funny you talking about avoiding war, voting for a republican, when only one republican out of 23 senators voted against the invasion of Iraq.

(6) Ever heard of revolution?

[jay_a2j]

(1) Kucinich, along with Paul, also votes against the Patriot Act.

(2) The only people who are for this are non-libertarian Republicans, namely the other presidential candidates.

(3) You shouldn't use acid dreams like Revelations to justify voting for a longshot candidate.

(4) Not true. Besides, wouldn't that be getting in the way of God's divine plan? God planned the end of times, and I don't think a man in his 70's is going to stop it.

(5) Funny you talking about avoiding war, voting for a republican, when only one republican out of 23 senators voted against the invasion of Iraq.

(6) Ever heard of revolution?

1 Then vote for him.

2 "namely the other presidential candidates"? Thank you for proving my point.

3 whatever

4 God didn't "plan" the end times.

5 You don't say? Bush sold his "terrorist" crap to a lot more than those Senators.

6 That's what the Ron Paul campaign is.

[DaGip]

You know, he's not the only candidate against the war.

Psah, they can't go and be voting for DEMOCRATS, can they? Everybody knows democrats are communists!

Srry for the delay in the reply.

Im not talking about just Iraq. Im talking about what his position is. U.S. forces out of all countries.

And that's a bad thing?

Not great - South Korea would be fucked.

To say the least.

Ron Paul thinks we should pull all our troops out of all foreign lands and bring them home. That would mean North and South Korea would fight each other and become unified, probably communist. Ron Paul is okay with that, he points out Vietnam as the example...Ron Paul has the tendency to lump his understanding about war into the Vietnam category, I think that that is laudible ignorance.

Especially considering that once we pulled out of Vietnam, nearly 3 million people were killed, and that North Korea isn't exactly in the best of shape, both economically and citizen wise. Military wise, it has quite a large force for such a small nation, and if South Korea was left to it's own, it would put up a tough fight, but they would probably be overwhelmed.

It would be much worse than that if we pulled all our forces back! Our presence is deterrent enough to keep other nations at bay, right now, but that is starting to wear thin against Iran. The strength of our deterrence is beginning to fade, if we try to maintain our presence in the reason, war will be inevitable! If we pull back, we leave both Iraq and Israel at the mercy of Iran. We are in a pickle!

[AndrewLC]

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[Dancing Mustard]

God didn't "plan" the end times.

Then why did he write all about them in the Bible?????1

[jay_a2j]

God didn't "plan" the end times.

Then why did he write all about them in the Bible?????1

Because he looked into the future and saw what man would do. (That was a tough question)



As for Da Gip, I am convinced that he never supported Ron Paul and that he was fabricating his support for him from the beginning.

[Dancing Mustard]

God didn't "plan" the end times.

Then why did he write all about them in the Bible?????1

Because he looked into the future and saw what man would do. (That was a tough question)

But if God is all powerful then why doesn't he do something about it? Surely letting it happen is planning for it to happen if there's something he could do to intervene????1

[heavycola]

God didn't "plan" the end times.

Then why did he write all about them in the Bible?????1

Because he looked into the future and saw what man would do. (That was a tough question)



As for Da Gip, I am convinced that he never supported Ron Paul and that he was fabricating his support for him from the beginning.

Hey jay, I'm pretty sure i saw DaGip in a video on youtube telling a lizard shapeshifter in a suit all about how he had been playing you for a fool the whole time. It means they're scared of you, jay.

[jay_a2j]

God didn't "plan" the end times.

Then why did he write all about them in the Bible?????1

Because he looked into the future and saw what man would do. (That was a tough question)

But if God is all powerful then why doesn't he do something about it? Surely letting it happen is planning for it to happen if there's something he could do to intervene????1

It's called, free will DM. I know some of you guys have a hard time grasping this concept but thats the answer.

[Napoleon Ier]

Free Will is not logically justifiable (other than through debuit, potuit, fecit). But hey, we all believe in it...

[Guiscard]

It's called, free will DM. I know some of you guys have a hard time grasping this concept...

So do you, Jay, as you don't seem to see the obvious and critical logical flaws when applied to the inherent qualities applied to God.

Logic dictates, of course.

[Dancing Mustard]

God didn't "plan" the end times.

Then why did he write all about them in the Bible?????1

Because he looked into the future and saw what man would do. (That was a tough question)

But if God is all powerful then why doesn't he do something about it? Surely letting it happen is planning for it to happen if there's something he could do to intervene????1

It's called, free will DM. I know some of you guys have a hard time grasping this concept but thats the answer.

Yes yes, I know we have that, and that we'll be causing the 'End of Dayz', but by letting us, surely God has planned for it to happen? Even if we don't have to do it, he knows that we will; and therefore it is a part of his plan, even though he doesn't execute it himself. Right?

[Napoleon Ier]

Hey jay I can't post on your broadcast tv thingy

[unriggable]

1. if God is willing but unable to prevent evil, he is not omnipotent
2. if God is able but not willing to prevent evil, he is not good
3. if God is willing and able to prevent evil, then why is there evil?

[jay_a2j]

Hey jay I can't post on your broadcast tv thingy

Go ahead.




"We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities" It all ends good my friends.

[unriggable]

"We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities"

You forgot the rest of the quote:

"We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities. Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines opens this Friday only in Theaters."

[Napoleon Ier]

Hey jay I can't post on your broadcast tv thingy

Go ahead.




"We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities" It all ends good my friends.

Aye cannae post!

[Dancing Mustard]

I note that Jay has sidestepped answering my last question...

It appears that God has indeed planned for "teh end of teh dayz".


I R WINAR. Again.