THIS IS A MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!

[2dimes]

I watched Jay, there's some things in there that seem legit. Some of it is rather chicken littleish.

Someone has called the chip the RFID 666, that seems like missleading information to scare people.

I'm not seeing anything creadable enough from anywhere to make a solid case for this being the mark of the beast directly. I realise however it's most certainly something to keep up on and be aware of.

Norse mentioned they can't turn the chip off. I agree but I think the film is trying to make the statement that your banking can be cancelled at any moment. Just as a credit card is now. When your card is turned down for a purchase it's not the card that is changed but the account attached to it.

I don't believe that the rockefellers actually make the money for the U.S. government. Someone please prove this either way.

It's not them it was the Rothchilds, and they don't print or make the money.

I don't have any evidence but don't find it difficult to believe that the banking system is allowed to set how much currency is available.

The way I've heard the story is that the federal reserve used to have to hold a certain amount of physical gold to back the US currency and that was changed.

[Guiscard]

One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.

Err... we have borders... Hate to burst your bubble, Jay, but you can't just wander across Europe passportless and unmolested.

no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)

I know it is, and I think thats an improvement... I'm just pointing out the realities of the current situation to Jay.

'I took EU is all about no borders' to mean that is their aim. I agree with that. It would be an improvement. What it is not, however, is the current state of affairs.

I think the current border system is a little ridiculous. But both my statements stand. You need a passport now, but I'd rather not need one.

[2dimes]

What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?

[Guiscard]

What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?

Our border.

[2dimes]

What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?

Our border.

What border is "Our Border"?

[cena-rules]

I didnt watch it therefore it is not a must watch so you lied

[2dimes]

What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?

Our border.

Canada is not part of the EU so obviously you need a passport to enter the EU from here.

[Guiscard]

What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?

Our border.

What border is "Our Border"?

Which country do I come from, 2dimes... see if you can do a little detective work...

And further to that, I've traveled fairly extensively in Europe - France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Poland, Greece, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal - for every one of those places I have required a passport when entering the country.

[2dimes]

What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?

Our border.

What border is "Our Border"?

Which country do I come from, 2dimes... see if you can do a little detective work...

And further to that, I've traveled fairly extensively in Europe - France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Poland, Greece, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal - for every one of those places I have required a passport when entering the country.

Gotcha, I need a passport to enter England from Canada. I coverd that.

What I was not aware of is that England is EU and hence adopted the euro. Sorry I have not been there since 2005 when they were not.

At that time I cleared EU costums with my trusty Canuck passport entering France at Frankfurt Germany , then could have mailed my passport home if I was not going to two non EU countries on the way back.

Let me state that a little more clearly, I did not need a passport to fly from Frankfurt to Tolouse. I did indeed need a passport to exit the EU and enter the UK.

What EU border was that we're talking about again?

[cena-rules]

England has not adopted the euro

[2dimes]

England has not adopted the euro

Ok, but wasn't that a requirement to join the EU?

[heavycola]

Dimes there is an agreement between 30 member states called the Schengen agreement. It means, essentially, that you can pass freely between, say, france and the netherlands (although they can still stop suspected smugglers etc.) This is why you didn't have to show your passport.
The UK didn't opt in fully. Nor has it adopted the euro. So to get out of or into the UK, we need passports. Although i hear soon they are going to inject us with these neat microchips that will do it all for us automatically.

[mr. incrediball]

England has not adopted the euro

Ok, but wasn't that a requirement to join the EU?

no. being in the EU is a requirement to use the euro

[2dimes]

Ok, so I'll agree Jay's jumping the proverbial gun on this. He's 'merican so guns are probably kind of a hobby.

However let's presume he's comparing this North American Union thingy here to the, um... what was it?
"Shenanigans agreement" that would (and I'm thinking it's over due to happen in many ways) allow you to cross the border with no passport etc.

Making driving from my house to Cabo san lucas for Sammy's birthday tequila party vertually hassle free if Norse stays at my nieghbor's house or better yet the EU to party.

The thing that's going to stall this for a while I think is the fact that though I don't you could blaze a nice fatty here and Jay's people are still in a bit o' a panic about that. Even though in California you can get a prescription for to treat your glaucoma.

Partially as a step towards a common currency that used to seem impossible because for decades the US dollar was so much more powerfull than the loonie.

[Snorri1234]

England has not adopted the euro

Ok, but wasn't that a requirement to join the EU?

Join? Dude the UK was in way before most other countries.

[Guiscard]

Ok, so I'll agree Jay's jumping the proverbial gun on this. He's 'merican so guns are probably kind of a hobby.

However let's presume he's comparing this North American Union thingy here to the, um... what was it?
"Shenanigans agreement" that would (and I'm thinking it's over due to happen in many ways) allow you to cross the border with no passport etc.

Making driving from my house to Cabo san lucas for Sammy's birthday tequila party vertually hassle free if Norse stays at my nieghbor's house or better yet the EU to party.

The thing that's going to stall this for a while I think is the fact that though I don't you could blaze a nice fatty here and Jay's people are still in a bit o' a panic about that. Even though in California you can get a prescription for to treat your glaucoma.

Partially as a step towards a common currency that used to seem impossible because for decades the US dollar was so much more powerfull than the loonie.

Apparently it would have been a good idea to read up on the EU...

Furthermore, what the hell are you on about in this post?

[Snorri1234]

Ok, so I'll agree Jay's jumping the proverbial gun on this. He's 'merican so guns are probably kind of a hobby.

However let's presume he's comparing this North American Union thingy here to the, um... what was it?
"Shenanigans agreement" that would (and I'm thinking it's over due to happen in many ways) allow you to cross the border with no passport etc.

Making driving from my house to Cabo san lucas for Sammy's birthday tequila party vertually hassle free if Norse stays at my nieghbor's house or better yet the EU to party.

The thing that's going to stall this for a while I think is the fact that though I don't you could blaze a nice fatty here and Jay's people are still in a bit o' a panic about that. Even though in California you can get a prescription for to treat your glaucoma.

Partially as a step towards a common currency that used to seem impossible because for decades the US dollar was so much more powerfull than the loonie.

Apparently it would have been a good idea to read up on the EU...

Furthermore, what the hell are you on about in this post?

He lost coherence somewhere along the 3/4 paragraph...

[Coleman]

While I'd love to read the entire post I don't have the time.

I learned most of this very early on in my computer security classes. Everything about the chips is true. They exist, the national id cards are planned, and it will likely progress to what the video states.

That said, the rest of the video linked here, and the world government stuff. No idea.

I currently view this as an attempt to tie true events and objects into some radical conspiracy theory to make the theory seem more true. One of the most popular books of all time (that the author says is pure fabrication) the Da Vinci Code did this. It's effective on a good many people.

Until I see more evidence, I'm not convinced on the world government and planned 9/11 connotations.

[2dimes]

Furthermore, what the hell are you on about in this post?

Our boarder.

[Guiscard]

Furthermore, what the hell are you on about in this post?

Our boarder.

What, like a Skate boarder?

I mean what was your point?

[2dimes]

Oops you're right, it's the one without the "a", my bad.

[Guiscard]

Oops you're right, it's the one without the "a", my bad.

Still trying to divine the point of your original post.

[2dimes]

"mericans like guns, weed not so much.

There are some that think we should not have a border (no a) between here and mexico.

It's more possible there may be a single North American currency now that the cdn dollar is worth more.

[mr. incrediball]

i dunno what jay's so pissed about. it just looks like NA's take on the EU...

in fact, it IS NA's take on the EU.

loosen up jay, this'll probably turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to the USA.

[jay_a2j]

i dunno what jay's so pissed about. it just looks like NA's take on the EU...

in fact, it IS NA's take on the EU.

loosen up jay, this'll probably turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to the USA.

Pardon me for thinking putting our Constitution through the shredder is a bad thing. What was I thinking???