Fascinating New Study on What Happens to Vaxed Over Time

[mookiemcgee]

So basically, vaccine wore off, she got covid and got really sick

Vaccines don't "wear off" after 12 months. If something's "wearing off" after 12 months, it's not a vaccine that has ever existed on this planet in the preceding 300 years of immunology prior to 2019.

Lol... ok. Saxi would prefer if changed my language but it doesn't change my point. Virus' mutate and old vaccines are no longer effective against new variants.

pre-2019 example - Flu Vaccine

[saxitoxin]

So basically, vaccine wore off, she got covid and got really sick

Vaccines don't "wear off" after 12 months. If something's "wearing off" after 12 months, it's not a vaccine that has ever existed on this planet in the preceding 300 years of immunology prior to 2019.

Lol... ok. Saxi would prefer if

oops - think you glossed over something by accident! (Mcgee did a Fetterman)

A new study by researchers at Johns Hopkins, Oxford, and the University of Washington finds that use of mRNA-based C19 boosters in 18-29 year olds cause up to 98 serious adverse events for every COVID-19 hospitalization they prevent. Serious adverse events were defined to include hospitalization, death, or permanent disability including acute myocarditis. [https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070]

[GaryDenton]

I see you cherry-picking - "18 to 98 serious adverse events" is the quote. 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males is the most serious.

[GaryDenton]

I would advise you to stay safe but I think the high conservative Republican die-off from a preventable disease is evolution in action.

https://www.eatthis.com/a-covid-surge-i ... stay-safe/

[saxitoxin]

Wow, that'd suck to have got the clot shot. Glad I didn't.

Payouts for Covid-19 vaccine injuries are set to explode more than 80-fold to nearly $77 million by July next year, Tuesday’s budget papers reveal.

The figure was quietly buried in the Services Australia portfolio budget statement, in a table detailing third-party payments from the agency “on behalf of other entities”.

A spokesman for Services Australia was unable to provide any further detail on the payouts, such as the number or size of claims.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy ... 14df7a3422

[saxitoxin]

She wished I would die. One year after calling for my death, I'm still alive and she's cooling in the ground. Funny how the world works.

[saxitoxin]

For 18 months we were told that the Pfizer vaccine could do nothing to DNA. Such a thing was impossible!

Now, the second peer-reviewed study has been released that demonstrates it does exactly that and even faster than thought.

Pathophysiologists at Sweden’s Lund University have discovered that the mRNA in the Pfizer vaccine “is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA” within six hours following vaccination.

https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/lup/pu ... 20fdaa7e87

Meanwhile, the Finnish health ministry has reevaluated their COVID-19 death data and found they overestimated the number of COVID-19 deaths by at least 40 percent and that almost all deaths occurred at the end of a person’s natural life cycle, with a median mortality age of 85 years old. The ministry also reported that less than six people younger than age 60 had died of the disease in the last nine months.

https://yle.fi/news/3-12668492

At the pace the Big Lie is falling apart, we're about 12 months out from a Truth and Reconciliation Commission being convened.

[jimboston]

The summary says it’s in English… but I disagree.

Obviously joking… but without an advanced degree in biochemistry one can’t understand what this means.

Does it replicate? I mean it’s one thing if it changes the DNA in a cell or group of cells then those cells die.
It’s another if it changes the DNA in a cell or group of cells and then those cells replicate.

The first is not a problem.

The latter is.

[saxitoxin]

The summary says it’s in English… but I disagree.

Obviously joking… but without an advanced degree in biochemistry one can’t understand what this means.

Does it replicate? I mean it’s one thing if it changes the DNA in a cell or group of cells then those cells die.
It’s another if it changes the DNA in a cell or group of cells and then those cells replicate.

The first is not a problem.

The latter is.

They weren't able to conclude that it either does nor does not and said further study is needed to determine the "concern[ing]" possibility it does.

In the current study, we employed a human liver cell line for in vitro investigation. It is worth investigating if the liver cells also present the vaccine-derived SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which could potentially make the liver cells targets for previously primed spike protein reactive cytotoxic T cells. There has been case reports on individuals who developed autoimmune hepatitis after BNT162b2 vaccination. To obtain better understanding of the potential effects of BNT162b2 on liver function, in vivo models are desired for future studies.

In the BNT162b2 toxicity report, no genotoxicity nor carcinogenicity studies have been provided. Our study shows that BNT162b2 can be reverse transcribed to DNA in liver cell line Huh7, and this may give rise to the concern if BNT162b2-derived DNA may be integrated into the host genome and affect the integrity of genomic DNA, which may potentially mediate genotoxic side effects. At this stage, we do not know if DNA reverse transcribed from BNT162b2 is integrated into the cell genome. Further studies are needed to demonstrate the effect of BNT162b2 on genomic integrity, including whole genome sequencing of cells exposed to BNT162b2, as well as tissues from human subjects who received BNT162b2 vaccination.

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

The major point here, however, is that - until just days ago - Pfizer's marketing department had spent the last two years insisting that even transcription was impossible and anyone who expressed concern about it had no idea what they were talking about. This is the fifth or sixth guarantee Pfizer's marketing department made about their vaccine that has since been discredited with the benefit of further research (but only after hundreds of millions of doses had been sold to governments and injected into people).

And remember, this (Pfizer) is the company that just 10 years ago had to pay the second-largest criminal fine in pharmaceutical history ($1.3 Billion) for falsifying claims about a different drug (Zyvox) and making under-the-table pay-offs to select doctors to testify about its safety. Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice ...

[jimboston]

The major point here, however, is that - until just days ago - Pfizer's marketing department had spent the last two years insisting that even transcription was impossible and anyone who expressed concern about it had no idea what they were talking about. This is the fifth or sixth guarantee Pfizer's marketing department made about their vaccine that has since been discredited with the benefit of further research (but only after hundreds of millions of doses had been sold to governments and injected into people).

And remember, this (Pfizer) is the company that just 10 years ago had to pay the second-largest criminal fine in pharmaceutical history ($1.3 Billion) for falsifying claims about a different drug (Zyvox) and making under-the-table pay-offs to select doctors to testify about its safety. Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice ...

That is NOT the main point.

You are willfully misinterpreting the meaning of what was previously stated and also what is now being stated, to create a fake concern where none exists. If it changes or destroys the DNA in one cell and that=at cell doesn’t replicate then it’s NOT “changing your DNA” and you are not a “mutant”.

Virus’s, environmental factors, disease all change/destroy cells.

If the modified cells replicate that’s a problem….

[Dukasaur]

The major point here, however, is that - until just days ago - Pfizer's marketing department had spent the last two years insisting that even transcription was impossible and anyone who expressed concern about it had no idea what they were talking about. This is the fifth or sixth guarantee Pfizer's marketing department made about their vaccine that has since been discredited with the benefit of further research (but only after hundreds of millions of doses had been sold to governments and injected into people).

And remember, this (Pfizer) is the company that just 10 years ago had to pay the second-largest criminal fine in pharmaceutical history ($1.3 Billion) for falsifying claims about a different drug (Zyvox) and making under-the-table pay-offs to select doctors to testify about its safety. Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice ...

That is NOT the main point.

You are willfully misinterpreting the meaning of what was previously stated and also what is now being stated, to create a fake concern where none exists. If it changes or destroys the DNA in one cell and that=at cell doesn’t replicate then it’s NOT “changing your DNA” and you are not a “mutant”.

Virus’s, environmental factors, disease all change/destroy cells.

If the modified cells replicate that’s a problem….

It's still not a problem. Up to 48% of our current DNA comes from virus we have encountered over the eons. https://www.cshl.edu/the-non-human-living-inside-of-you/#:~:text=Eight%20percent%20of%20our%20DNA,to%20have%20a%20viral%20origin.

It's a big part of how transient immunity eventually becomes permanent immunity, a.k.a. evolution at work.

[jimboston]

The major point here, however, is that - until just days ago - Pfizer's marketing department had spent the last two years insisting that even transcription was impossible and anyone who expressed concern about it had no idea what they were talking about. This is the fifth or sixth guarantee Pfizer's marketing department made about their vaccine that has since been discredited with the benefit of further research (but only after hundreds of millions of doses had been sold to governments and injected into people).

And remember, this (Pfizer) is the company that just 10 years ago had to pay the second-largest criminal fine in pharmaceutical history ($1.3 Billion) for falsifying claims about a different drug (Zyvox) and making under-the-table pay-offs to select doctors to testify about its safety. Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice ...

That is NOT the main point.

You are willfully misinterpreting the meaning of what was previously stated and also what is now being stated, to create a fake concern where none exists. If it changes or destroys the DNA in one cell and that=at cell doesn’t replicate then it’s NOT “changing your DNA” and you are not a “mutant”.

Virus’s, environmental factors, disease all change/destroy cells.

If the modified cells replicate that’s a problem….

It's still not a problem. Up to 48% of our current DNA comes from virus we have encountered over the eons. https://www.cshl.edu/the-non-human-living-inside-of-you/#:~:text=Eight%20percent%20of%20our%20DNA,to%20have%20a%20viral%20origin.

It's a big part of how transient immunity eventually becomes permanent immunity, a.k.a. evolution at work.

Maybe… but we wouldn’t want accidental or inadvertent human intervention in this process from a vax pushed out the door in 12 months.

We can agree on THAT. Yes?

Saxi is asserting this as a FACT but his evidence suggests the opposite.

[jusplay4fun]

The major point here, however, is that - until just days ago - Pfizer's marketing department had spent the last two years insisting that even transcription was impossible and anyone who expressed concern about it had no idea what they were talking about. This is the fifth or sixth guarantee Pfizer's marketing department made about their vaccine that has since been discredited with the benefit of further research (but only after hundreds of millions of doses had been sold to governments and injected into people).

And remember, this (Pfizer) is the company that just 10 years ago had to pay the second-largest criminal fine in pharmaceutical history ($1.3 Billion) for falsifying claims about a different drug (Zyvox) and making under-the-table pay-offs to select doctors to testify about its safety. Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice ...

That is NOT the main point.

You are willfully misinterpreting the meaning of what was previously stated and also what is now being stated, to create a fake concern where none exists. If it changes or destroys the DNA in one cell and that=at cell doesn’t replicate then it’s NOT “changing your DNA” and you are not a “mutant”.

Virus’s, environmental factors, disease all change/destroy cells.

If the modified cells replicate that’s a problem….

It's still not a problem. Up to 48% of our current DNA comes from virus we have encountered over the eons. https://www.cshl.edu/the-non-human-living-inside-of-you/#:~:text=Eight%20percent%20of%20our%20DNA,to%20have%20a%20viral%20origin.

It's a big part of how transient immunity eventually becomes permanent immunity, a.k.a. evolution at work.

saxi posts misleading things about COVID vaccines? Tell me this AINT SO..!!!

[Dukasaur]

The major point here, however, is that - until just days ago - Pfizer's marketing department had spent the last two years insisting that even transcription was impossible and anyone who expressed concern about it had no idea what they were talking about. This is the fifth or sixth guarantee Pfizer's marketing department made about their vaccine that has since been discredited with the benefit of further research (but only after hundreds of millions of doses had been sold to governments and injected into people).

And remember, this (Pfizer) is the company that just 10 years ago had to pay the second-largest criminal fine in pharmaceutical history ($1.3 Billion) for falsifying claims about a different drug (Zyvox) and making under-the-table pay-offs to select doctors to testify about its safety. Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice ...

That is NOT the main point.

You are willfully misinterpreting the meaning of what was previously stated and also what is now being stated, to create a fake concern where none exists. If it changes or destroys the DNA in one cell and that=at cell doesn’t replicate then it’s NOT “changing your DNA” and you are not a “mutant”.

Virus’s, environmental factors, disease all change/destroy cells.

If the modified cells replicate that’s a problem….

It's still not a problem. Up to 48% of our current DNA comes from virus we have encountered over the eons. https://www.cshl.edu/the-non-human-living-inside-of-you/#:~:text=Eight%20percent%20of%20our%20DNA,to%20have%20a%20viral%20origin.

It's a big part of how transient immunity eventually becomes permanent immunity, a.k.a. evolution at work.

Maybe… but we wouldn’t want accidental or inadvertent human intervention in this process from a vax pushed out the door in 12 months.

We can agree on THAT. Yes?

Maybe we wouldn't want it but that doesn't make it a disaster. I wouldn't want tripe soup for breakfast tomorrow, but it wouldn't be a catastrophe if that's what I was served.

[mookiemcgee]

Would you eat it or politely refuse? I would probably give it a go for lunch or dinner but at breakfast my stomach can't handle weird

[jonesthecurl]

What's wrong with tripe? I see it served up here ALL the time.

[Dukasaur]

What's wrong with tripe? I see it served up here ALL the time.

It was my father's favourite soup. I was forced to eat it every week for several years. One of the only foods I really hate.

[jimboston]

I wouldn't want tripe soup for breakfast tomorrow, but it wouldn't be a catastrophe if that's what I was served.

I disagree completely.

Tripe for ANY meal is a disaster IMHO.

[jimboston]

What's wrong with tripe? I see it served up here ALL the time.

OK Jonesy. If this is a serious question then I may bump you ahead of JP4 in terms of idiocy!

[mookiemcgee]

What's wrong with tripe? I see it served up here ALL the time.

Have you tried it? I'd rather eat cabeza tacos than callos... not a huge fan of either. Lengua is better than both those option.

[karel]

if you got the shot your a fool

[jimboston]

if you got the shot your a fool

Everyone? No exceptions?

[karel]

not me,nor did i wear a mask

[jimboston]

not me,nor did i wear a mask

You didn’t answer the question.

You’re so tough you never wore a mask.

Never? You never wore a mask not once not even for 5 minutes?

I call you liar.

[bigtoughralf]

What's wrong with tripe?

It was created by Satan to lead people astray from God's path.