Who projects a better image of the US: Melania or Jane?

[2dimes]

Yawn.

Where is Saxi to express his love of hot pockets? Not sure he likes the vegetarian ones.

[riskllama]

have you heard about the new vegetarian Happy Meal, 2dimes? it's just the toy.

[2dimes]

I have not heard that but you can buy just the toy. It was a dollar, might have gone up. Regardless of how often it is written, I don't know that because my dead mom takes me through the drive thru.

I knew two vegitarians that both ate fries. Side note I spell vegitarian wrong then auto correct fixes it.

[mrswdk]

have you heard about the new vegetarian Happy Meal, 2dimes? it's just the toy.

Yeah, if you don't like having your fries made out of beef then go back to California.

[Dukasaur]

have you heard about the new vegetarian Happy Meal, 2dimes? it's just the toy.

Yeah, if you don't like having your fries made out of beef then go back to California.

You're joking, but in fact it is the truth.

Obviously fries aren't made out of beef, but traditionally they were fried in beef tallow (lard). In 2007, MacDonald's switched to a vegetarian blend of vegetable oil, canola oil, and soybean oil, but then the customers complained that the new fries didn't taste as good. MacDonalds' solved the problem by adding beef extract to the soybean oil to make their vegetarian oil taste more like beef. The "beef extract" isn't actually made from beef, it's made from chemically-modified milk, but it's still an animal product, so still not acceptable to strict vegetarians. (The fact that the chemically-modified milk is labelled "natural beef extract" is pretty funny in itself, but that's labeling for ya!)

https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/small-french-fries.html
Scroll down to the ingredient list.

[mrswdk]

Strict vegetarian who won't consume milk = vegan?

[NomadPatriot]

have you heard about the new vegetarian Happy Meal, 2dimes? it's just the toy.

Yeah, if you don't like having your fries made out of beef then go back to California.

You're joking, but in fact it is the truth.

Obviously fries aren't made out of beef, but traditionally they were fried in beef tallow (lard). In 2007, MacDonald's switched to a vegetarian blend of vegetable oil, canola oil, and soybean oil, but then the customers complained that the new fries didn't taste as good. MacDonalds' solved the problem by adding beef extract to the soybean oil to make their vegetarian oil taste more like beef. The "beef extract" isn't actually made from beef, it's made from chemically-modified milk, but it's still an animal product, so still not acceptable to strict vegetarians. (The fact that the chemically-modified milk is labelled "natural beef extract" is pretty funny in itself, but that's labeling for ya!)

https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/small-french-fries.html
Scroll down to the ingredient list.

strict vegetarians are called --> vegans..
there is a difference..

as a vegetarian.. I do not want animals killed for my food. but milk & eggs are fine . because they do not require a life to be taken..

vegans do not consume any animal related products period..

[Dukasaur]

Right, vegan is what I should have said.

[Dukasaur]

as a vegetarian.. I do not want animals killed for my food. but milk & eggs are fine . because they do not require a life to be taken..

Although really, the level of cruelty can be just as high.

In egg production, particularly. It's not like when we were kids and you had to go prowling all over the hay loft to see where the chickens hid their eggs. Nowadays, to prevent egg loss, the chickens are kept in tiny cages with no natural light or stimulus. They go mad from confinement, so they have their beaks shortened so that they don't peck each other to death in their maddened state. Really, chickens that are raised for meat are better off. Their short life ends with a quick death. Egg-laying chickens can spend years in this nightmare state of imprisonment.

In dairy farming, things can sometimes be just as bad. Some dairy farmers go with a free-range option, but many use a permanent-enclosure method like the egg farmers. And in the end, when the milk production drops, the cow is usually killed anyway. Only a tiny minority of farmers, usually hobby farmers not in commercial production, believe in putting the animal out on the range to enjoy its retirement.

So while it may be technically true that no life is taken in milk and egg production, it still usually leads to horrible lives for the animals. Unless you're spending the big bucks for free-range eggs and free-range milk, you're still contributing to cruelty.

[NomadPatriot]

as a vegetarian.. I do not want animals killed for my food. but milk & eggs are fine . because they do not require a life to be taken..

Although really, the level of cruelty can be just as high.

In egg production, particularly. It's not like when we were kids and you had to go prowling all over the hay loft to see where the chickens hid their eggs. Nowadays, to prevent egg loss, the chickens are kept in tiny cages with no natural light or stimulus. They go mad from confinement, so they have their beaks shortened so that they don't peck each other to death in their maddened state. Really, chickens that are raised for meat are better off. Their short life ends with a quick death. Egg-laying chickens can spend years in this nightmare state of imprisonment.

In dairy farming, things can sometimes be just as bad. Some dairy farmers go with a free-range option, but many use a permanent-enclosure method like the egg farmers. And in the end, when the milk production drops, the cow is usually killed anyway. Only a tiny minority of farmers, usually hobby farmers not in commercial production, believe in putting the animal out on the range to enjoy its retirement.

So while it may be technically true that no life is taken in milk and egg production, it still usually leads to horrible lives for the animals. Unless you're spending the big bucks for free-range eggs and free-range milk, you're still contributing to cruelty.

you are saying this like it isn't a commonly known fact to vegetarians that they take into consideration in the products they purchase
.... or that it isn't commonly known among I would say 95% of the general public..

it's kind of like explaining how clouds form..

[Dukasaur]

Okay. As long as you know what you're dealing with.

[mookiemcgee]

Okay. As long as you know what you're dealing with.

He's ok with chicken in cages, and with Central American children in cages as well.... just don't kill either one and he's fine with it (especially chickens though)

[NomadPatriot]

Okay. As long as you know what you're dealing with.

He's ok with chicken in cages, and with Central American children in cages as well.... just don't kill either one and he's fine with it (especially chickens though)

i love how these leftist CC Members try to accuse me of things they can never prove... notice he cannot even quote me
it shows their desperation..

but I did vote for Obama in 2008... but I wasn't aware he was putting kids in cages until I seen it in my news feed.

if you can find a pic of 'kids in cages' from the Trump era.. feel free to post it..

[riskllama]

hitler was a vegetarian, wasn’t he?

[NomadPatriot]

Okay. As long as you know what you're dealing with.

i appreciate you backing me up on the Poi thing.. but pretty sure everybody learned about milk & egg production in like 3rd grade... especially these days
but hey .. keep thinking you need to explain things to people …. i am sure it helps your strut around town...

[NomadPatriot]

hitler was a vegetarian, wasn’t he?

he also drank water... & was a European

[2dimes]

Time man of the year.

[riskllama]

so, basically...vegetarian = sadist.

[2dimes]

Sad because they can't get a happy meal.

[Dukasaur]

Sad because they can't get a happy meal.

I'd rather have a happy ending, anyway.

[2dimes]

[betiko]

Based on the OP pictures my opinion is that melania trump is better looking than bernadette Sanders, but it's just an opinion.

[Dukasaur]

Based on the OP pictures my opinion is that melania trump is better looking than bernadette Sanders, but it's just an opinion.

The OP says "image".

There's a lot more to image than looks.

[NomadPatriot]

Based on the OP pictures my opinion is that melania trump is better looking than bernadette Sanders, but it's just an opinion.

The OP says "image".

There's a lot more to image than looks.

yes .. image matters

Bernie and Jane Sanders, under FBI investigation for bank fraud, hire lawyers

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont, and his wife, Jane Sanders have hired prominent defense attorneys amid an FBI investigation into a loan Jane Sanders obtained to expand Burlington College while she was its president, CBS News confirms.

Politico Magazine first reported the Sanders had hired lawyers to defend them in the probe. Sanders' top adviser Jeff Weaver told CBS News the couple has sought legal protection over federal agents' allegations from a January 2016 complaint accusing then-President of Burlington College, Ms. Sanders, of distorting donor levels in a 2010 loan application for $10 million from People's United Bank to purchase 33 acres of land for the institution.

According to Politico, prosecutors might also be looking into allegations that Sen. Sanders' office inappropriately urged the bank to approve the loan.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-and-jane-sanders-under-fbi-investigation-for-bank-fraud-hire-lawyers/

[mrswdk]

Based on the OP pictures my opinion is that melania trump is better looking than bernadette Sanders, but it's just an opinion.

The OP says "image".

There's a lot more to image than looks.

Nah.

Contemporary voters are exposed to political candidates in a wide variety of ways. Some meet them in person at political rallies. Others read articles and view photographs and media footage of candidates on television as well as online, produced of a variety of news sources. One component all of these methods have in common, however, is the visual. Research shows that voters form an opinion (accurate or not) about a candidate´s competence, character, and qualifications to be President, just by looking.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... more-votes