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Postby Skittles! on Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:56 pm

XenHu wrote:
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CaptainPlanet wrote:Okay, you got me. Anarchy could exist in a small group


I guess that's kinda the idea. Lots of little groups of people determining their own interests.

Anarchical organisation is everywhere already, amongst groups of friends, amongst open source programmers, etc. The challenge that remains is to make that into a way of life in a broader sense.

BTW anarchy doesn't necessarily mean no organisation, it's just strictly opposed to heirarchical organisation, or forced association.


A point I've been trying to get across.

Thank you qeee.

*bows*

-X


So I guess, what I was saying, is a different opinion to yours?


Only slightly.

-X


I see. Hmm, interesting.

Still considering, but still not fully convinced if I should ask to join the Rogue State.
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Postby rocker0987 on Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:57 pm

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rocker0987 wrote:could i join the rogue states ???


I'm thinking about asking too.. I dono though. I'm still not fully convinced about it.


the reason i asked is because around were i live there is already over 150 people devoted to anarchy including me and we just do what ever the hell we wont although we have gotten into pretty tight situations sith the police but only a few of us at a time (5-15) but so far weve gotten away every time


I see, interesting. Well, where I live, most teenagers just do whatever the f*ck they want. Drink, smoke, they don't care about the rules. Not really anarchy, but it's an anarchy that they know of.


no we do all that but what im talking about is goverment and corperation vandalism not just the ordinary stuff but thats all im going to asy about that


I'm not sure if that would be considered anarchy, it seems more like rebellion


rebellion could also be called the begging stagest of anarchy if you really think about it.
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Postby XenHu on Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:58 pm

Ask away..

Although, you would have to withdraw from TRORF, as it would be slightly hypocritical..

:lol:

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Postby Skittles! on Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:58 pm

rocker0987 wrote:
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Skittles! wrote:
rocker0987 wrote:
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rocker0987 wrote:could i join the rogue states ???


I'm thinking about asking too.. I dono though. I'm still not fully convinced about it.


the reason i asked is because around were i live there is already over 150 people devoted to anarchy including me and we just do what ever the hell we wont although we have gotten into pretty tight situations sith the police but only a few of us at a time (5-15) but so far weve gotten away every time


I see, interesting. Well, where I live, most teenagers just do whatever the f*ck they want. Drink, smoke, they don't care about the rules. Not really anarchy, but it's an anarchy that they know of.


no we do all that but what im talking about is goverment and corperation vandalism not just the ordinary stuff but thats all im going to asy about that


I'm not sure if that would be considered anarchy, it seems more like rebellion


rebellion could also be called the begging stagest of anarchy if you really think about it.


Yep. Begging to oppress, to look like you're a rebel.

I still think Anarchy is better.
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Postby Skittles! on Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:59 pm

XenHu wrote:Ask away..

Although, you would have to withdraw from TRORF, as it would be slightly hypocritical..

:lol:

-X


How would it be hypocritical?

RORF- Playing because I like Risk.
Rogue State - Joining because I agree with Anarchy.

I don't see how that is hypocritical.
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Postby XenHu on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:00 am

RORF-Supports Democracy.

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Postby rocker0987 on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:01 am

Skittles! wrote:
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Skittles! wrote:
rocker0987 wrote:
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rocker0987 wrote:could i join the rogue states ???


I'm thinking about asking too.. I dono though. I'm still not fully convinced about it.


the reason i asked is because around were i live there is already over 150 people devoted to anarchy including me and we just do what ever the hell we wont although we have gotten into pretty tight situations sith the police but only a few of us at a time (5-15) but so far weve gotten away every time


I see, interesting. Well, where I live, most teenagers just do whatever the f*ck they want. Drink, smoke, they don't care about the rules. Not really anarchy, but it's an anarchy that they know of.


no we do all that but what im talking about is goverment and corperation vandalism not just the ordinary stuff but thats all im going to asy about that


I'm not sure if that would be considered anarchy, it seems more like rebellion


rebellion could also be called the begging stagest of anarchy if you really think about it.


Yep. Begging to oppress, to look like you're a rebel.

I still think Anarchy is better.


sorry really tired cant spell worth shit tonight i ment (begining stages) and were not trying to look like rebels no one know who we are and we dont bragg about what we do just state it
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Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:02 am

Ahh yes, I thought it was beginning.
Pushing your views on someone I believe is stupid, and arrogant. Living how you wana live in honourable, i think. If it doesn't hurt you, that is.
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Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:04 am

XenHu wrote:RORF-Supports Democracy.

-X


Oh yeah, totally forgot about that. Haha. Even if Caleb told me numerous times.

But if I leave the RORF, will I get it in the Rogue State?
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Postby XenHu on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:05 am

Skittles! wrote:
XenHu wrote:RORF-Supports Democracy.

-X


Oh yeah, totally forgot about that. Haha. Even if Caleb told me numerous times.

But if I leave the RORF, will I get it in the Rogue State?


I think your entry is pretty much guaranteed.

Yes..

I think you make a good Rogue.

Besides, we have another Aussie in the clan, so you'll be right at home.

:lol:


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Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:06 am

XenHu wrote:
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XenHu wrote:RORF-Supports Democracy.

-X


Oh yeah, totally forgot about that. Haha. Even if Caleb told me numerous times.

But if I leave the RORF, will I get it in the Rogue State?


I think your entry is pretty much guaranteed.

Yes..

I think you make a good Rogue.

-X


Okay. I'll leave the RORF now.
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Postby XenHu on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:07 am

Done.

Rocker, I'll evaluate you in the morning.

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Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:08 am

XenHu wrote:
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XenHu wrote:RORF-Supports Democracy.

-X


Oh yeah, totally forgot about that. Haha. Even if Caleb told me numerous times.

But if I leave the RORF, will I get it in the Rogue State?


I think your entry is pretty much guaranteed.

Yes..

I think you make a good Rogue.

Besides, we have another Aussie in the clan, so you'll be right at home.

:lol:


-X


I know. Anarchy Ninja.
Hmmmm. I wonder where about's he lives.

Anyway, the Rogue aren't an actual clan, are they? I couldn't find them
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Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:08 am

Wait.. You're hidden. That's right.
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Postby s.xkitten on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:09 am

yes we're a clan...and we're just hidden...like the person above me said...
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Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:09 am

That was me. ha.. Hmmm.
Woot, the Rogue!
I need to get a banner..
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:10 am

So this thread was nothing but a clan back patting exercise......i should've guessed.
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Postby XenHu on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:12 am

Huckleberryhound wrote:So this thread was nothing but a clan back patting exercise......i should've guessed.


Wrong.

I never intend to recruit Rogues, boost my popularity(or lack thereof) or enforce my views.

These things happen.

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Postby flashleg8 on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:22 am

I'm more of a communist than an anarchist, though I see no reason why a true socialist society could not exist in an anarchist form (without the need for a centralised government). I believe once people are shown how much better and fairer a cooperative system free from oppression is, to the present corrupt exploitative one, there will not be the problems of selfishness. In our present western society the greed and selfishness comes from artificial consumer propaganda. It is truly not necessary to have a bigger car, a TV in every room or to eat luxury foods from half way round the world. People are starving to death and living on the streets. If communities worked together to supply their own needs without fat cats skimming off the top of the workers produce, there would be less resentment. Everyone would realise that the harder they worked the better the whole community (or country, or planet!) fairs - not as it presently is; the harder you work, the richer your boss gets.
There would be no crime of theft as everyone would have equal access to the community resources - "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".
If people do commit crimes against the group, they can of course be censored - by the group. This makes justice more direct, transparent and accountable.
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Postby XenHu on Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:24 am

Well said.

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Postby Balsiefen on Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:52 am

Good but the problem is that this assumes that everyone is a nice person

the problem is they arnt, no matter what happens you always get a very large amoount of people who try to abuse the system, you will always get a Stalin thrown in the works no matter how hard you try. the same goes for anarchy, a group will always form subconciously under one person, and he uses that to gain power.
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Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:01 am

Didn't you read the thread?

Get a group, a small group, of responsible and smart people, then see how Anarchy works.
It would work.
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Postby Wisse on Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:06 am

it means something for me, i am a socialist, and without voilence and power to control others the world would be much better,
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Postby Neutrino on Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:03 am

Skittles! wrote:
I know. Anarchy Ninja.
Hmmmm. I wonder where about's he lives.

Anyway, the Rogue aren't an actual clan, are they? I couldn't find them


Actually, im Aus as well. Anarchy Ninja and I live in the same town and go to the same school.
We own all your helmets, we own all your shoes, we own all your generals. Touch us and you loooose...

The Rogue State!
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Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:04 am

Neutrino wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
I know. Anarchy Ninja.
Hmmmm. I wonder where about's he lives.

Anyway, the Rogue aren't an actual clan, are they? I couldn't find them


Actually, im Aus as well. Anarchy Ninja and I live in the same town and go to the same school.


Wow, that's cool. But I must say, QLD sucks. Haha.
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