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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby Lootifer on Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:36 pm

Audrey Statistics, a well known mother to several children in the scientific community, has filed a sexual assault charge against Saxitoxin. In the charge, Ms. Statistics has accused the defendant of sexual misconduct with their underage daughter, Causation.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:10 am

Lootifer wrote:Audrey Statistics, a well known mother to several children in the scientific community, has filed a sexual assault charge against Saxitoxin. In the charge, Ms. Statistics has accused the defendant of sexual misconduct with their underage daughter, Causation.


I didn't know she was underage. She claimed she was 15.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mrswdk on Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:35 am

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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:02 am

mrswdk wrote:Legal in most of Europe.


and still too old for mrswdk
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby HitRed on Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:36 am

Ex-M16 boss says Caronavirus likely engineered in Wuhan lab.

In an interview with The Telegraph, Sir Richard Dearlove said he had seen an "important" new scientific report suggesting the virus did not emerge naturally but was man-made by Chinese scientists.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ex-mi6-bo ... -wuhan-lab

Hmmm, where did we hear this before?

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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mrswdk on Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:12 am

HitRed wrote:Ex-M16 boss says Caronavirus likely engineered in Wuhan lab.

In an interview with The Telegraph, Sir Richard Dearlove said he had seen an "important" new scientific report suggesting the virus did not emerge naturally but was man-made by Chinese scientists.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ex-mi6-bo ... -wuhan-lab


But does anyone care about the scientific opinion of a long-retired spy who the UK Government has publicly accused of fabricated the evidence used to justify the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and who has since found a new purpose undertaking political campaigning on behalf of the Conservative Party's hard right?

The paper he is referring to is here. Let us know when you find anything in there that suggests COVID-19 was created by scientists.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby HitRed on Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:47 am

Dearlove added: "[A]s this debate about the virus develops, I think all this material is going to be in print and is going to embarrass a number of people, I think. Let's suggest that the Chinese maybe have too much say in their journals, in what appears and what doesn't."

He is talking about Chinese journals and "all this material" not released yet. Your link seems to be vaccine research related.


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HitRed wrote:Ex-M16 boss says Caronavirus likely engineered in Wuhan lab.

In an interview with The Telegraph, Sir Richard Dearlove said he had seen an "important" new scientific report suggesting the virus did not emerge naturally but was man-made by Chinese scientists.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ex-mi6-bo ... -wuhan-lab


But does anyone care about the scientific opinion of a long-retired spy who the UK Government has publicly accused of fabricated the evidence used to justify the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and who has since found a new purpose undertaking political campaigning on behalf of the Conservative Party's hard right?

The paper he is referring to is here. Let us know when you find anything in there that suggests COVID-19 was created by scientists.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:20 pm

if Americans want to believe English spies now, does that mean the Steele dos is back on the table? The Trump Pee Pee tapes were real!
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mrswdk on Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:42 pm

HitRed wrote:Dearlove added: "[A]s this debate about the virus develops, I think all this material is going to be in print and is going to embarrass a number of people, I think. Let's suggest that the Chinese maybe have too much say in their journals, in what appears and what doesn't."

He is talking about Chinese journals and "all this material" not released yet. Your link seems to be vaccine research related.


It is a paper about vaccine research. It's also the only paper Dearlove is referencing as his evidence base*.

It's almost like the paper proves nothing and he's just making things up, isn't it? Like when he made up evidence about WMDs in Iraq in 2003.




*apart from the papers that 'definitely exist but that I haven't seen because China is suppressing them but that if I could see would definitely prove China created COVID-19'
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby betiko on Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:09 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:if Americans want to believe English spies now, does that mean the Steele dos is back on the table? The Trump Pee Pee tapes were real!


Loool.

Can you do peepee tapes during the confinement too?


Anyways, the covid is ending and unfortunately we didn't get trump infected, that would ve been so much fun
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:23 pm

betiko wrote:

Anyways, the covid is ending and unfortunately we didn't get trump infected, that would ve been so much fun


Anyways, the covid is ending
... what gave you that idea? 20-30,000 new cases per day in the US, 120-130,000 new cases per day worldwide.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:05 am

Now what is THIS..? repeat? I thought China got it ALL figured out...??

Beijing Closes Food Market and Locks Down Neighborhood After New Coronavirus Outbreak Emerges

BY KEN MORITSUGU AND DAKE KANG / AP JUNE 13, 2020 11:16 AM EDT
(BEIJING) — The largest wholesale food market in Beijing was shuttered behind police guard and the surrounding neighborhood locked down Saturday after more than 50 people tested positive for the coronavirus in the Chinese capital.


https://time.com/5853242/beijing-new-coronavirus-outbreak/
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mrswdk on Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:33 am

The fact that countries like China and Germany are currently able to take this sort of targeted response to small-scale local outbreaks is how you know they’ve done a good job bringing COVID under control. In the US, there is no such thing as a neighbourhood lockdown because the virus is simply running rampant everywhere:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... pdates-us/
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:17 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
betiko wrote:

Anyways, the covid is ending and unfortunately we didn't get trump infected, that would ve been so much fun


Anyways, the covid is ending
... what gave you that idea? 20-30,000 new cases per day in the US, 120-130,000 new cases per day worldwide.



Actually well over 30,000 in the US today, and over 175,000 worldwide. "Ending"? I don't think so.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:43 pm

The US and Brazil are responsible for about half of all new cases between them. In most parts of the world COVID-19 is being brought under control. The stats are just being distorted by a couple of delinquent cripple baby failed states in the Americas.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:50 pm

mrswdk wrote:The US and Brazil are responsible for about half of all new cases between them. In most parts of the world COVID-19 is being brought under control. The stats are just being distorted by a couple of delinquent cripple baby failed states in the Americas.

In Europe and East Asia, it's pretty much under control. But I think in Africa and South Asia it's pretty much out of control. It's just that there's so little money for testing in a lot of those areas, that nobody is really sure how bad it is.

What little we do know is concerning. In most of the world, cases started to level off after six weeks. Not so in Africa or Egypt (among the few African nations where there is a public health system strong enough to assemble good numbers.)
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mrswdk on Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:31 am

Sounds like they all had poor lockdowns. Nigeria and SA lifted theirs before cases had slowed down because they were worried about the economy, Egypt only had a loose lockdown in the first place.

Hopefully Iran gets theirs sorted in time for my next holiday.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:49 am

Confusing information about COVID, as per Fauci:

Fauci theorized that the disparate responses to the virus among people in the United States reflect a feature of the virus itself: Its effects are wildly variable. Some people remain asymptomatic after infection. Others become severely ill. Some die. That can be confusing for people.

“The nature of the disease makes you confused. The nature of the disease sets it open to multiple different interpretations of how serious this is, and with that how serious you should be taking the disease,” Fauci said.

Adding to that confusion is the fact that successful public health measures, including shutdowns and mandates to wear masks, can appear to be unnecessary. There is no easy way to calculate what might have happened if the measures hadn’t been imposed.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-battle-over-masks-in-a-pandemic-an-all-american-story/ar-BB15JGcF?ocid=spartandhp

So, what is the truth and when may we know it?
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jimboston on Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:47 am

jusplay4fun wrote:Confusing information about COVID, as per Fauci:

Fauci theorized that the disparate responses to the virus among people in the United States reflect a feature of the virus itself: Its effects are wildly variable. Some people remain asymptomatic after infection. Others become severely ill. Some die. That can be confusing for people.

“The nature of the disease makes you confused. The nature of the disease sets it open to multiple different interpretations of how serious this is, and with that how serious you should be taking the disease,” Fauci said.

Adding to that confusion is the fact that successful public health measures, including shutdowns and mandates to wear masks, can appear to be unnecessary. There is no easy way to calculate what might have happened if the measures hadn’t been imposed.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-battle-over-masks-in-a-pandemic-an-all-american-story/ar-BB15JGcF?ocid=spartandhp

So, what is the truth and when may we know it?


You can’t prove a negative.

You will never be able to accurately measure “what would’ve happened if...”
- we had locked down harder earlier and started wearing masks earlier.
- we hadn’t locked down and stopped wearing masks.

Everything I’ve read, and also from talking to doctor friends, the single biggest help is masks.
Masks, masks, masks, masks.

Well and washing hands and not touching your face.

The problem is people don’t like masks... and also people aren’t wearing masks properly. I see people in stores all the time with masks pulled to the side and then they move them in place when they walk by someone... but meanwhile (f they’re infected) they’re breathing their covid all over everything in the store. Or worse, people have them on over their mouth, but not their nose! It’s like... do you ever see a picture where the masks not covering mouth and nose?

Summer helps... people aren’t locked inside, we can be further apart, and sun kills it... but there will be bumps as things open up and when kids go back to school.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby KoolBak on Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:34 am

Breathing their covid all over isn't so bad unless you're locked in a small space with them or they sneeze in your face (apparently).

Kills me to see people in the store open mouth coughing and sneezing. Just wanna throatpunch the fucks.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby 2dimes on Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:33 am

Right? I even get annoyed at little kids that don't know to cover their mouth, hacking away like a barking sea lion.

Well I'm actually more annoyed with their parents. Way too many people don't teach their offspring important public safety measures anyone.

You're outside and no other person is within 50 yards fine but inside any public building or if someone else is nearby cover your face with your elbow!
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jimboston on Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:04 pm

KoolBak wrote:Breathing their covid all over isn't so bad unless you're locked in a small space with them or they sneeze in your face (apparently).

Kills me to see people in the store open mouth coughing and sneezing. Just wanna throatpunch the fucks.


I don’t see why it’s so hard to wear a mask while shopping.

You can get grocery shopping done in 20-30 minutes even if you’re slow.

You can do other shopping fast if the masks but you.

If you’re in a park and not near anyone... go ahead take off your mask.

I hate the term “new normal”... but it’s true at least until we get a vaccine.

Even when we get a vaccine it might be smart to, if not keep these norms in play, at least keep them handy and ready for if/when this type of thing happens again.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:17 pm

jimboston wrote:Even when we get a vaccine it might be smart to, if not keep these norms in play, at least keep them handy and ready for if/when this type of thing happens again.


Yup. South Korea crushed Covid, in part because their experience with SARS taught them the importance of public masking.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby spurgistan on Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:59 pm

I think the fact that Florida and Arizona are the new American hotspots kinda runs in the face of the "sun kills it" idea...
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mookiemcgee on Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:15 pm

spurgistan wrote:I think the fact that Florida and Arizona are the new American hotspots kinda runs in the face of the "sun kills it" idea...


I don't think anyone is arguing that the sun completely eliminates transmittion (except for maybe the orange conspiracy theorist in charge of the country) . The sun might slow it, because contact transmission is likely slowed but non contact (through the air) rates likely stay roughly the same. So masks, especially in the summer might lead to the slowest possible spread for anytime of year (which is still a very effective spread rate, that is one of the hallmarks of this virus). The likelihood that it picks up with a vengeance in Oct/Nov regardless of mask wearing is still very much a possibility. If Oct rolls around and Florida stay on a similar path but say michigan picks up bigtime that would be evidence of this possibility.
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