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Re: Israel

Postby jimboston on Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:32 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:
- also jim: 'the UN is part of a global pro-Hamas conspiracy that only myself, Duk and Benjamin Netanyahu are clever enough to see through'


Your ability to take my words and twisting them into this is quite astounding.


bigtoughralf wrote:
Are either of you going to answer the question or are you just going to keep playing this game of 'try to discredit the messenger'?


Your question was answered.
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:23 pm

jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:Are either of you going to answer the question or are you just going to keep playing this game of 'try to discredit the messenger'?


Your question was answered.


Cool mane.

Hope you enjoy watching your tax dollars used to bomb and starve Arab children then.
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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:21 pm

2009 Egyptian steel wall
In December 2009, Egypt, with help from the United States, started the building of an Egypt–Gaza barrier along the Gaza border, consisting of a steel wall.

In October 2014, Egypt announced that they planned to expand the buffer zone between Gaza and Egypt, following a terrorist attack from Gaza that killed 31 Egyptian soldiers. The buffer was created "in a move meant to halt the passage of weapons and militants through cross-border smuggling tunnels but which also puts more pressure on the Palestinian militant Hamas group."
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Re: Israel

Postby jimboston on Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:32 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:
jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:Are either of you going to answer the question or are you just going to keep playing this game of 'try to discredit the messenger'?


Your question was answered.


Cool mane.

Hope you enjoy watching your tax dollars used to bomb and starve Arab children terrorists then.


Fixed.

Yes… I’m OK with killing militants who indiscriminately murdered civilians.

I’m glad Israel is working to minimize civilian casualties in Gaza.
I wish Hamas would do more to help civilians in Gaza, since you-know they are the legally elected gov’t.
Too bad they…
*Redirected mass amounts of aid intended for civilians to military purposes.
*Dug up water pipes to use as rockets.
*Hoarded water and fuel sent/intended for civilians.
*Established military bases under/around civilian infrastructure like hospitals and schools.
*Prevented civilians from fleeing conflict zones.
*Took Israeli civilians as hostages, including women and children.
*Have committed to wiping out all Jews ā€œfrom the River to the Seaā€.

…. but you refuse to acknowledge any of these acts and wish to solely blame Israel and US by proxy.

Good luck with that.
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:52 pm

jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:Are either of you going to answer the question or are you just going to keep playing this game of 'try to discredit the messenger'?


Your question was answered.


Cool mane.

Hope you enjoy watching your tax dollars used to bomb and starve Arab children terrorists then.


Fixed.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in ... civilians/
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Re: Israel

Postby jimboston on Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:18 am

bigtoughralf wrote:
jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:Are either of you going to answer the question or are you just going to keep playing this game of 'try to discredit the messenger'?


Your question was answered.


Cool mane.

Hope you enjoy watching your tax dollars used to bomb and starve Arab children terrorists then.


Fixed.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in ... civilians/


The first sentence ends with the throw away line… ā€œAccording to Gaza’s Health Ministryā€.

This ā€œministryā€ is controlled by Hamas. 100% of their statements are questionable (at best).

1) The label all Hamas fighters as ā€œciviliansā€ in their ā€œcountā€.
2) Their counting ability is amazing. they can generate ā€œaccurateā€ death number moments after a strike.
:roll:
(Note the initial bombing at one of the hospitals…
*First we were told (by the Health Ministry) it was an Israeli missile that ā€œstruck a hospitalā€ and killed ā€œover 500 civiliansā€.
Later the truth came out…
- It was an Islamic Jihad missile that misfired
- It hit the parking lot of the hospital, not the hospital
- It maybe killed 100 people… maybe.
3) This same Health Ministry refused to accept fuel from the Israeli Military; while lefties worldwide were demanding Israel allow fuel to reach the hospitals.
4) This same Health Ministry resisted attempts to relocate vulnerable patients to safer locations.

I love how the media just reports the lies of Hamas and reports them as ā€œfactā€ but hides behind tools-out lines like ā€œaccording to Gaza’s Health Ministryā€. The editors at the Post KNOW exactly what they are doing. It’s sick and sad.
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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:55 am

UK doctor who worked at Al-Shifa says Hamas used hospital complex for 'non-medical purposes'

https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status ... -hamas-war
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Re: Israel

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:06 am

HitRed wrote:UK doctor who worked at Al-Shifa says Hamas used hospital complex for 'non-medical purposes'

https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status ... -hamas-war


Unfortunately, getting unbiased information on this issue has been and will be very difficult. I think I made this point earlier.
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:55 pm

jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
jimboston wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:Are either of you going to answer the question or are you just going to keep playing this game of 'try to discredit the messenger'?


Your question was answered.


Cool mane.

Hope you enjoy watching your tax dollars used to bomb and starve Arab children terrorists then.


Fixed.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in ... civilians/


The first sentence ends with the throw away line… ā€œAccording to Gaza’s Health Ministryā€.


In the 2008 and 2014 Israel-Palestine conflicts the Gaza Health Ministry's estimates were almost identical to the UN's final estimates, give or take 1-2%. They're known to report pretty accurately, so if they say 1 in 200 Gazans killed in the invasion then we can be pretty confident that that's true and will be backed up by the UN's own estimates.

Of course this probably the point where you repeat your claim the UN is a gullible shill for Hamas propaganda, and only you and the Israeli press are the ones seeing things clearly.
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:13 pm

Yemen has released dramatic video of Yemeni commandos intercepting and capturing the Israeli ship Galaxy Leader - which was navigating in the Red Sea - over the weekend.

ā€œThe detention of the Israeli ship is a practical step that proves the seriousness of the Yemeni armed forces in waging the sea battle, regardless of its costs. This is the beginning.ā€



Meanwhile, progressive Democrats have released footage of besieging and shuttering the California Democratic Party convention over the weekend. The two actions are believed uncoordinated.

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Re: Israel

Postby riskllama on Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:19 pm

terrible name for a boat... :?
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:23 am

Media report a ceasefire is "imminent."

Under the reported terms of Israel's surrender:

    - The Gaza Government will release 50 of the 200 Israeli Prisoners of War. In exchange, Israel will release 150 Palestinian child hostages.
    - Israel will cease all military operations in Gaza and permit the transit of 300 trucks per day of supplies to the Gazan civilian population.
    - Israel will enter meaningful negotiations for potential reparations and indemnification of damages incurred by Gaza.
The move comes after reports of mounting casualties among the IDF, withering support from Joe Biden who faces internal party pressure, global anti-Zionism demonstrations, a rumored ICC war crimes inquiry being initiated against Netanyahu, increasing military operations against Israel's other borders by Yemen and Hezbollah, and the recent release of a Haaertz report that claimed IDF Apache gunships accidentally killed most of the Israelis at the music festival as opposed to the Qassam Brigades as initially thought.
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Re: Israel

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:05 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Media report a ceasefire is "imminent."

Under the reported terms of Israel's surrender:

    - The Gaza Government will release 50 of the 200 Israeli Prisoners of War. In exchange, Israel will release 150 Palestinian child hostages.
    - Israel will cease all military operations in Gaza and permit the transit of 300 trucks per day of supplies to the Gazan civilian population.
    - Israel will enter meaningful negotiations for potential reparations and indemnification of damages incurred by Gaza.
The move comes after reports of mounting casualties among the IDF, withering support from Joe Biden who faces internal party pressure, global anti-Zionism demonstrations, a rumored ICC war crimes inquiry being initiated against Netanyahu, increasing military operations against Israel's other borders by Yemen and Hezbollah, and the recent release of a Haaertz report that claimed IDF Apache gunships accidentally killed most of the Israelis at the music festival as opposed to the Qassam Brigades as initially thought.


Typical saxi: he takes a questionable report and turns it into the WORST scenario, i.e., "fake news."
A new report revealed Saturday that an Israeli military helicopter opened fire on Palestinian gunmen but wounded Israelis participating in a festival during an Oct. 7 attack by Hamas against Israel.

The Haaretz newspaper said an Israeli security assessment was based on an investigation by police with Hamas gunmen who were arrested Oct. 7.

Haaretz reported that the military helicopter arrived at the site of the festival and opened fire on the gunmen but also wounded several festival participants.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-helicopter-opened-fire-on-israelis-in-festival-during-hamas-attack-on-oct-7-report/3058257


The Haaretz article in Hebrew cites an unnamed Israel Police official saying that its investigation of the incident found that an IDF helicopter at the site that was firing at terrorists ā€œapparently harmed a few partygoers who were in the area.ā€

A police statement says that its investigation focused only and solely on police activity, and not any IDF activity, and therefore did not provide ā€œany indication about the harm of civilians due to aerial activity there.ā€

The statement calls on news outlets to ā€œtake responsibility for their publications and only base stories on official sources.ā€

Elements of the Haaretz article were taken widely out of context on social media and used to blame Israel for hundreds of civilian deaths on October 7, none of which has any basis in fact and in extensive reporting about the massacre.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-police-slams-haaretz-claim-idf-helicopter-may-have-harmed-civilians-on-oct-7/#:~:text=November%2019%2C%202023-,Israel%20Police%20slams%20'Haaretz'%20claim%20IDF%20helicopter%20may%20have%20harmed,7&text=The%20Israel%20Police%20issues%20a,have%20killed%20some%20Israeli%20civilians.

also, similar report, different source:
https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/idf-helicopter-hits-israeli-festivalgoers-during-hamas-attack-report-15887735
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Re: Israel

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:03 am

Israel, Hamas agree first truce, 50 hostages to go free in swap
Reuters
November 22, 20235:09 AM ESTUpdated 23 min ago

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-government-debates-deal-release-gaza-hostages-truce-2023-11-21/

GAZA/JERSUALEM, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Israel and Hamas agreed on Wednesday to a ceasefire in Gaza for at least four days, to let in aid and release at least 50 hostages captured by militants in exchange for at least 150 Palestinians jailed in Israel.

The first truce in a brutal near seven-week-old war, reached after mediation by Qatar, was hailed around the world as a sign of progress that could ease the suffering of Gaza's civilians and bring more Israeli hostages home. Israel said the ceasefire could be extended further, as long as more hostages were freed.
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:25 am

China, serving as president of the Security Council, ordered the Israeli ambassador to STFU yesterday as he was whining about something or another. The ambassador obeyed.

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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:19 am

lmao, that Holocaust star he's wearing. So desperate.
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Re: Israel

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:44 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:lmao, that Holocaust star he's wearing. So desperate.


Why are you laughing at the Holocaust star? Do you deny the Holocaust happened, the killing of some 6 million Jews in Europe by Hitler and the Nazis?
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Re: Israel

Postby Votanic on Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:55 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:lmao, that Holocaust star he's wearing. So desperate.


Why are you laughing at the Holocaust star? Do you deny the Holocaust happened, the killing of some 6 million Jews in Europe by Hitler and the Nazix?

Yeah Ralf!!
That poor guy was probably hiding in somebody's attic until just last week!
No wonder he wasn't up on all the fine details of UN decorum.
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:25 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:the Nazix?


Were they the gender-neutral Nazis?
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Re: Israel

Postby Votanic on Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:35 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:the Nazix?

Were they the gender-neutral Nazis?

Of course not, ralf. The gender Nazix don't use stars and swastikas. They do 'flags'.
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Hey wait a minute... Aren't you a cover multi for a notorious transexualoid Chinese spy?!
Okay..., I see what you're doing here.

btw, I expect eveybody to memorize this chart.
When you're done with these, I found another gif online with 36 more different flags.
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:10 pm

Votanic wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:the Nazix?

Were they the gender-neutral Nazis?

Of course not, ralf. The gender Nazix don't use stars and swastikas. They do 'flags'.
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When you're done with these, I found another gif online with 36 more different flags.


Even run of the mill gays are too mainstream to get their own flag.
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:23 am

The bear flag is pretty cool tbf.
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Re: Israel

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:14 am

bigtoughralf wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:the Nazix?


Were they the gender-neutral Nazis?


typical soft-ralph: he IGNORES the MAIN point to focus on a small typo. He is good at loves to crow from the top of a dung heap. Well Done, again, soft-ralph. :? :o

That leads me to conclude that he acquiesced and thus proves that he indeed is a Holocaust denier.

Are you a Nazi, Nazi-lover, or simply a Nazix? LoL :o :? :lol: =D>
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:30 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:the Nazix?


Were they the gender-neutral Nazis?


typical soft-ralph: he IGNORES the MAIN point to focus on a small typo. He is good at loves to crow from the top of a dung heap. Well Done, again, soft-ralph. :? :o

That leads me to conclude that he acquiesced and thus proves that he indeed is a Holocaust denier.

Are you a Nazi, Nazi-lover, or simply a Nazix? LoL :o :? :lol: =D>


typical jp, he ignores my main point and thereby proves that he is a big fan of the last season of Game of Thrones.
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