tzor wrote:heavycola wrote:Note that the CC still uses Latin as a base language.
my CC language is English and i don't think Lack,Wicked or Twildo knows Latin.
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tzor wrote:heavycola wrote:Note that the CC still uses Latin as a base language.
DAZMCFC wrote:tzor wrote:heavycola wrote:Note that the CC still uses Latin as a base language.
my CC language is English and i don't think Lack,Wicked or Twildo knows Latin.
InkL0sed wrote:Te confuta!
suggs wrote:I couldn't be arsed to read all of this. But is Tzor seriously trying to claim that most Xians don't think the " soul" is non physical/corporeal? (and most non Xians too).
tzor wrote:suggs wrote:I couldn't be arsed to read all of this. But is Tzor seriously trying to claim that most Xians don't think the " soul" is non physical/corporeal? (and most non Xians too).
No, although it is close. Most Christians define the "soul" in abstract terms. Some may go into details filling in those abstract terms but many merely do that for explanation and not dogmatic definition. So what does it mean to say that a soul is non physical or corporeal? Basically it means you can't have a container with a gallon of soul that you can see, nothing less and nothing more.
But just because an idea is abstract it does not mean that it is void of any concrete properties; just because something abstract is non physical at a higher level doesn't mean that there is something physical at the lower level. Thoughts are a good example of this. At the lowest level they are just chemical interactions from a number of cells in the body, and yet there is a higher organization which forms an abstract concept in an abstract notion (the English Language) that expresses the notion os "That Tzor's an idiot; he doesn't know what he's talking about."
So the soul is not as much para-phyical (para- as in beside) as it is trans-physical (across and beyond) encompasing both the physical and the eternal. Just as the thoughts written on the printed page continue anew with every person who reads those words, thus extending beyond the page.
And don't wory Suggs, normally I coudn't be arsed to read what you write either.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
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MeDeFe wrote:tzor wrote:suggs wrote:I couldn't be arsed to read all of this. But is Tzor seriously trying to claim that most Xians don't think the " soul" is non physical/corporeal? (and most non Xians too).
No, although it is close. Most Christians define the "soul" in abstract terms. Some may go into details filling in those abstract terms but many merely do that for explanation and not dogmatic definition. So what does it mean to say that a soul is non physical or corporeal? Basically it means you can't have a container with a gallon of soul that you can see, nothing less and nothing more.
But just because an idea is abstract it does not mean that it is void of any concrete properties; just because something abstract is non physical at a higher level doesn't mean that there is something physical at the lower level. Thoughts are a good example of this. At the lowest level they are just chemical interactions from a number of cells in the body, and yet there is a higher organization which forms an abstract concept in an abstract notion (the English Language) that expresses the notion os "That Tzor's an idiot; he doesn't know what he's talking about."
So the soul is not as much para-phyical (para- as in beside) as it is trans-physical (across and beyond) encompasing both the physical and the eternal. Just as the thoughts written on the printed page continue anew with every person who reads those words, thus extending beyond the page.
And don't wory Suggs, normally I coudn't be arsed to read what you write either.
So there is no soul? It's just something we made up?
OnlyAmbrose wrote:Simon Viavant wrote:In all religions, there is a soul or spirit outside of your body. It doesn't exist. It is all physical. If someone damages their brain, their personality changes. What you would call "who they are" changes. Basically, their "soul" changes. That is proof that the soul doesn't exist and disproves all religions and other such theistic beliefs.
If I'm watching a TV show, and I break the TV, the picture will get messed up. Did the program change or did the TV break so the program is no longer effectively communicated to the outside world?
OnlyAmbrose wrote:OnlyAmbrose wrote:Simon Viavant wrote:In all religions, there is a soul or spirit outside of your body. It doesn't exist. It is all physical. If someone damages their brain, their personality changes. What you would call "who they are" changes. Basically, their "soul" changes. That is proof that the soul doesn't exist and disproves all religions and other such theistic beliefs.
If I'm watching a TV show, and I break the TV, the picture will get messed up. Did the program change or did the TV break so the program is no longer effectively communicated to the outside world?
MeDeFe wrote:Pick the parts you like and leave out the rest, it might not always be very consistent, but if it works.
Backglass wrote:MeDeFe wrote:Pick the parts you like and leave out the rest, it might not always be very consistent, but if it works.
Yup. The christians do it everyday.
Juan_Bottom wrote:Backglass wrote:MeDeFe wrote:Pick the parts you like and leave out the rest, it might not always be very consistent, but if it works.
Yup. The christians do it everyday.
Then they aren't Christian. God's law.... Jay pities them.
InkL0sed wrote:Te confuta!
daddy1gringo wrote:For one example, when I pray for a city bus to come for me to get where I am going on time, and then thank God when it does, I do not believe that he materialized the bus around the corner. I believe his plan is big enough to have arranged for it in the big picture of events.
Snorri1234 wrote:daddy1gringo wrote:For one example, when I pray for a city bus to come for me to get where I am going on time, and then thank God when it does, I do not believe that he materialized the bus around the corner. I believe his plan is big enough to have arranged for it in the big picture of events.
You believe the bus coming in time is part of God's almighty plan?
Wow. How bad is your public-transport there?
Frigidus wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:daddy1gringo wrote:For one example, when I pray for a city bus to come for me to get where I am going on time, and then thank God when it does, I do not believe that he materialized the bus around the corner. I believe his plan is big enough to have arranged for it in the big picture of events.
You believe the bus coming in time is part of God's almighty plan?
Wow. How bad is your public-transport there?
Well, on one side you've got a cluttered bureaucracy and on the other you've got a fictional entity. Tough choice in my opinion.
This example is from when I used to live in New York City where, due to traffic, you could wait for an hour for a bus that was scheduled to come every 12 minutes, then find 4 of them arriving lke a convoy.
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