Americans

[muy_thaiguy]

What do you actually do in history class? When we do history we go back thousands of years but you only have a couple of hundred. So I'm just wondering what you actually study. I know you must do the Civil War and WW1 and 2 but what else? Please reveal your secrets.

If it is not American history, does it really matter? Its only a matter of time before our culture war overcomes every other culture in the world. England, Canada, Australlia are all pretty much the next three United States.

We have culturally dominated every first world Asian country.

Our biggest threat in the cultural war is Central America and soccer.

Whether or not anyone agrees, at the rate we are going in 100 years, history classes will start with the discovery of America by europeans. Everything else will be considered part of the dark ages.

I know it will piss all the foreigners off, but your anger is just further proof. You can hate our politics, you can hate our policies, but you gobble up american culture faster than anything.

Not even I agree with the culture war that America is waging, but I won't deny that it is happening or that America is winning.

What you're speaking of isn't "American" culture, it's corporate culture aka consumerism. Thank Coca-Cola, not your forefathers.

Considering that they wanted the Free Market Economy (Capitalism/Consumerism) quite a bit, not a far cry really. Mainly because Britain was forcing the Americans to only trade with them was one of the main causes of it.

Consumerism wasn't actually in existence back then though...The idea of product placement and all that was impossible given their level of technology, so they never would have dreamed us getting to the current situation.

As to the main topic, the only social science classes required throughout the country are US History and US Government. Aside from that it's really up to the state and to some extent the school. For instance, in my high school they had classes on World History, the History of Chicago, the Supreme Court, and International Relations to name a few.

Actually, that was about the time that mass production in the US began, but over in Merry ole England, it was well into the process at that time. Only problem was, England was relying quite heavily on resources from the Colonies. And selling the end products back to the people over here. Which was not only making alot of people mad, but also another factor leading upto the American Revolution. It wasn't until after the War that the then, US, began this. If small at first, but it grew.

[Jenos Ridan]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

Use of the word "leftist" as though it were an insult: last resort of the flailing rightist.

look at the frantic sematics-mongering: Am I witnessing a man twisting words to meet his agenda. I think I am.

[Frigidus]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

Use of the word "leftist" as though it were an insult: last resort of the flailing rightist.

look at the frantic sematics-mongering: Am I witnessing a man twisting words to meet his agenda. I think I am.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the definition of an argument?

[Jenos Ridan]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

Use of the word "leftist" as though it were an insult: last resort of the flailing rightist.

look at the frantic sematics-mongering: Am I witnessing a man twisting words to meet his agenda. I think I am.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the definition of an argument?

Semantics-mongering (you might be familiar with a differant verb or adjective here) is not the definition of an argument, it is, however, the definition of an implied agenda.

[Skittles!]

america's history is small? australia has been a country for only 107 years, and the aborigines history isn't recorded well.

Because we have been a country for 107 years doesn't mean we learnt the island of Australia's history, such as the colonies and such..

[bellaraphon]

im saying we've got very little history

[got tonkaed]

its simply a matter of perspective on some of the corporate issues. I dont think anyone denies that the corporation is thus far the most effcient way we have come up with to mass produce goods. However there are many problems with corporations and the type of economic systems they result in. To not be able to criticize some of these elements simply because the corporation provides a good...seems like a bastion of those who lack critical thinking skills.

[Guiscard]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

No doubt though we should all dismantle the big evil companies that put fruit on our table all year round, provide us with luxury clothing, technology and let's not forget, those vile ignominious carcerans, the jewels in the crown of the vast corporatist conspirators, the pharmaceuticals that provide cheap health care to millions....

No! We lust the days of old when all men were happy gatherers eating berries off the trees and sharing all goods in common around a campfire whilst smoking bizarre plants and playing hippy anthems on primitive reed pipes. It's those nasty corporations that screwed it all up.

Peace out man111

And how does this relate to your whole 'system' theory?

[Napoleon Ier]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

No doubt though we should all dismantle the big evil companies that put fruit on our table all year round, provide us with luxury clothing, technology and let's not forget, those vile ignominious carcerans, the jewels in the crown of the vast corporatist conspirators, the pharmaceuticals that provide cheap health care to millions....

No! We lust the days of old when all men were happy gatherers eating berries off the trees and sharing all goods in common around a campfire whilst smoking bizarre plants and playing hippy anthems on primitive reed pipes. It's those nasty corporations that screwed it all up.

Peace out man111

And how does this relate to your whole 'system' theory?

Ah! Interesting question, Guiscard. T an exten corporations have an undeniable negative effect on society, but that is the fault of society itself, which has allowed corporations to manipulate it.

[Guiscard]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

No doubt though we should all dismantle the big evil companies that put fruit on our table all year round, provide us with luxury clothing, technology and let's not forget, those vile ignominious carcerans, the jewels in the crown of the vast corporatist conspirators, the pharmaceuticals that provide cheap health care to millions....

No! We lust the days of old when all men were happy gatherers eating berries off the trees and sharing all goods in common around a campfire whilst smoking bizarre plants and playing hippy anthems on primitive reed pipes. It's those nasty corporations that screwed it all up.

Peace out man111

And how does this relate to your whole 'system' theory?

Ah! Interesting question, Guiscard. T an exten corporations have an undeniable negative effect on society, but that is the fault of society itself, which has allowed corporations to manipulate it.

So they do have a negative effect. Makes your above post seem a little reactionary and perhaps even trollish, don't you think?

[Napoleon Ier]

Reactionary and proud.

The people who allow corporations to dominate them have a lot more negative influence to be concerned about. You're a sensible man, Guiscard, you know as well as I do blaming "teh corporatins" is lame.

[Guiscard]

What you're speaking of isn't "American" culture, it's corporate culture aka consumerism. Thank Coca-Cola, not your forefathers.

And therein lies the beauty of the American Culture war. Coke is America. Our corporations run our country more or less, and the corporate brands do more for world peace and unity than the UN has ever accomplished.

The Nike Swish and Coke wave are more recognizable world wide than the Christian Cross or Muslim Cresant.

Corporate infiltration and American culture are one and the same. We are Apple, Coke, Nike, Mcdonalds. In recent years foreign corporations are doing the same thing, Nokia, Ikea, Sony, Toyota.

Like it or not the next generation will probably identify more closely with a corporate culture than a national, racial, or religious culture. That is America's greatest gift to the world. Equality through mass marketing.

Go back and read the original post, Nappy.

What point was it making?

[Harijan]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

No doubt though we should all dismantle the big evil companies that put fruit on our table all year round, provide us with luxury clothing, technology and let's not forget, those vile ignominious carcerans, the jewels in the crown of the vast corporatist conspirators, the pharmaceuticals that provide cheap health care to millions....

No! We lust the days of old when all men were happy gatherers eating berries off the trees and sharing all goods in common around a campfire whilst smoking bizarre plants and playing hippy anthems on primitive reed pipes. It's those nasty corporations that screwed it all up.

Peace out man111

Republican - pretty far right. I tried to write my post objectively, you are the one who took it as critical. I think Corporate culturization is an interesting experiment. Not crazy about how it is playing out, but I am not blaming anyone for anything.

[Napoleon Ier]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

No doubt though we should all dismantle the big evil companies that put fruit on our table all year round, provide us with luxury clothing, technology and let's not forget, those vile ignominious carcerans, the jewels in the crown of the vast corporatist conspirators, the pharmaceuticals that provide cheap health care to millions....

No! We lust the days of old when all men were happy gatherers eating berries off the trees and sharing all goods in common around a campfire whilst smoking bizarre plants and playing hippy anthems on primitive reed pipes. It's those nasty corporations that screwed it all up.

Peace out man111

Republican - pretty far right. I tried to write my post objectively, you are the one who took it as critical. I think Corporate culturization is an interesting experiment. Not crazy about how it is playing out, but I am not blaming anyone for anything.

You're absolutely right, I didn't read your post, I just saw corporation and some other stuff so I assumed...

[Jenos Ridan]

AH yes....Blame the corporations....last resort of the flailing leftist

No doubt though we should all dismantle the big evil companies that put fruit on our table all year round, provide us with luxury clothing, technology and let's not forget, those vile ignominious carcerans, the jewels in the crown of the vast corporatist conspirators, the pharmaceuticals that provide cheap health care to millions....

No! We lust the days of old when all men were happy gatherers eating berries off the trees and sharing all goods in common around a campfire whilst smoking bizarre plants and playing hippy anthems on primitive reed pipes. It's those nasty corporations that screwed it all up.

Peace out man111

And how does this relate to your whole 'system' theory?

Ah! Interesting question, Guiscard. T an exten corporations have an undeniable negative effect on society, but that is the fault of society itself, which has allowed corporations to manipulate it.

So they do have a negative effect. Makes your above post seem a little reactionary and perhaps even trollish, don't you think?

Corporations are also the natural and expected result of human nature when applied to material things. The reason we do not see any other system in play on such a vast scale (I believe the term is "Economies of Scale") is because no other economic can cope with the sheer volume of goods and services availible. Sad but true.