America,Worth Saving???...

[mookiemcgee]

Thank you. Too many toxic foolish people and sanity needs to make a comeback.

... by electing a party led by a senile 81 year old who wants to start a nuclear war.

As opposed to electing a senile 78 year old who wants a civil war?

The Republicans already beat the Democrats in the last civil war. I'm sure this one wouldn't take half as long.

Is that way republican mainstream thought leader MTG is pro Union, anti confederacy?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilder_Brigade_Monument

he monument, which consists of a stone watchtower, was erected to honor the Lightning Brigade (led by John T. Wilder) of the Union Army's Army of the Cumberland.

[saxitoxin]

Thank you. Too many toxic foolish people and sanity needs to make a comeback.

... by electing a party led by a senile 81 year old who wants to start a nuclear war.

As opposed to electing a senile 78 year old who wants a civil war?

The Republicans already beat the Democrats in the last civil war. I'm sure this one wouldn't take half as long.

Is that way republican mainstream thought leader MTG is pro Union, anti confederacy?

She's honoring famous Democrats like Harry Truman, Bill Clinton, Jefferson Davis, Andrew Jackson, and Stonewall Jackson. #Unity

[Dukasaur]

Thank you. Too many toxic foolish people and sanity needs to make a comeback.

... by electing a party led by a senile 81 year old who wants to start a nuclear war.

As opposed to electing a senile 78 year old who wants a civil war?

The Republicans already beat the Democrats in the last civil war. I'm sure this one wouldn't take half as long.

Is that way republican mainstream thought leader MTG is pro Union, anti confederacy?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilder_Brigade_Monument

he monument, which consists of a stone watchtower, was erected to honor the Lightning Brigade (led by John T. Wilder) of the Union Army's Army of the Cumberland.

Do you think she likes it in the ass?

[mookiemcgee]

Thank you. Too many toxic foolish people and sanity needs to make a comeback.

... by electing a party led by a senile 81 year old who wants to start a nuclear war.

As opposed to electing a senile 78 year old who wants a civil war?

The Republicans already beat the Democrats in the last civil war. I'm sure this one wouldn't take half as long.

Is that way republican mainstream thought leader MTG is pro Union, anti confederacy?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilder_Brigade_Monument

he monument, which consists of a stone watchtower, was erected to honor the Lightning Brigade (led by John T. Wilder) of the Union Army's Army of the Cumberland.

Do you think she likes it in the ass?

unconfirmed, it is confirmed she cheated on her husband but nothing in the court docs revealed if her Hershey highway was breached.

If i had to levy a guess, I'd say she probably prefers pegging men in the ass.

[mookiemcgee]

Oh, and in case anyone wants to say 'she's not mainstream, she's just the Rashid Talib of the republicans'. This is who the leader of the republican party wants as his VP.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/10/don ... ning-mate/

Donald Trump is considering Marjorie Taylor Greene as his 2024 running mate

[mookiemcgee]

New images have emerged of MGT admiring the Eiffel tower.

[jusplay4fun]

I doubt LGBTQ-Nation is an unbiased source. That "report" is intended to spread fear among its readers, and I doubt is anywhere CLOSE to reliable or accurate or unbiased. PERIOD.

[saxitoxin]

Donald Trump appointed the first openly gay cabinet-level officer in U.S. history so he's already America's #1 Sodomite Ally.

If MTG were VP that would actually help Sodomites because being Vice-President is like being declawed, defanged, neutered, ball-gagged and sealed in an abandon coal mine under two miles of human shit.

[jusplay4fun]

The above posts really belong elsewhere.

Try this location (Thread): https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=237728&p=5263195#p5263195

I find this much more likely a scenario and from a much less biased source:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3495831-trumps-vice-presidential-running-mate-for-2024/

Trump’s vice presidential running mate for 2024?
BY DOUGLAS MACKINNON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 05/21/22 12:00 PM ET

[mookiemcgee]

I doubt LGBTQ-Nation is an unbiased source. That "report" is intended to spread fear among its readers, and I doubt is anywhere CLOSE to reliable or accurate or unbiased. PERIOD.

Are you saying gays and lesbians can't be republicans? Or are you saying it's saying an LBTQ publication 'can't be trusted' for other reasons? I'm just gonna go ahead and assume you didn't read it, or bother google it, you just wrote it off.

I guess if a gay publication is too biased for you I could also post a similar story from buisness insider...

Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia said she's discussed with former President Donald Trump the possibility of her serving as his running mate in a potential 2024 presidential bid

https://www.businessinsider.com/marjori ... vp-2022-10

All of the various news outlets carrying this story point back to to Robert Draper (a New York Times reporter), as the primary source of this info, because he's writing a book called "Weapons of Mass Delusion: When the Republican Party Lost Its Mind". He did several interviews with MTG and prominent Republicans.

I guess we will see in a month or two if Trump runs, and if he picks mainstream republican thought leader MTG to represent the best of what republicans have to offer in political candidates for 2024.

[jusplay4fun]

If Trump picks Taylor, he proves that he is even more delusional than many already think. One guy, one source, AND the guy is trying to SELL his book. WOW, that is UNBIASED. and Reliable...NOT either. And LGBTQ-nation and a few other outlets pick up on it to garner attention they would otherwise not get. Get with it Mookie, UNRELIABLE source. PERIOD. as I already said.

CNN does not have MGT in their list:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/16/politics/trump-potential-running-mates-2024

and your same source:

Sen. Tim Scott and Sarah Huckabee Sanders are being floated as Trump's potential 2024 running mates.
That's according to reporting by New York Times White House correspondent Maggie Haberman.
Haberman said she thinks it's likely that Trump will run in 2024.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-huckabee-sanders-tim-scott-floated-as-trumps-potential-2024-vp-2022-10

[mookiemcgee]

first you posted an opinion piece, but call news reporting on what MGT 'said' as too biased to be believed because it's from an LBGT publication...

You criticize Robert Draper (NYT reporter) as being too biased to believe because he's writing a book about republicans... then you link to an article who's only quotes are from Maggie Haberman A NYT REPORTER WRITING A BOOK ABOUT REPUBLICANS (specifically about DONALD TRUMP BEING A CON MAN, per the title of the book CONFIDENCE MAN).

You're entitled to your opinion, if you are going to discount me as biased for sharing news reports at least come up with something better than exactly the same or worse sourcing.

If you have any reporting or sources saying i was wrong (Donald Trump is NOT considering Marjorie Taylor Greene as his 2024 running mate), now would be a great time to share it. If all you have is reports saying hes also considering other people, that doesn't really contradict anything I said.

[ConfederateSS]

------------- Mookie you post MTG ???....Is Rashid Talib Vice President???....You are just as bad at analogies as
Jimmy B....Is it the Tides / Oceans on the coasts that make you guys nuts....But to be fair....I don't know why Obama picked Biden, or Trump picked Pence....Bush Jr. Picked Cheney... Biden picked Harris(check Identity politics boxes)...Usually the Nominie picks , Someone who could flip a battleground State....That is why... Although Desantis in Florida would make since.... Florida is Republican... Although who would take over for Trump/ America 1st in 2028/9 A.D...??? Youngkin in Virginia can't serve back to back terms...That is How Virginia works...
------------- Virginia is a purple state...Trump could pick Youngkin...To get Virginia's electorial votes...Is Youngkin the man to take over in 2028/9 A.D.???.....Or Desantis..???..Trump will pick the person who will carry on America 1st...I doubt A Rep. MTG...will cut it.... Governors , Senators have more upside... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[mookiemcgee]

------------- Mookie you post MTG ???....Is Rashid Talib Vice President???....You are just as bad at analogies as
Jimmy B....Is it the Tides / Oceans on the coasts that make you guys nuts....But to be fair....I don't know why Obama picked Biden, or Trump picked Pence....Bush Jr. Picked Cheney... Biden picked Harris(check Identity politics boxes)...Usually the Nominie picks , Someone who could flip a battleground State....That is why... Although Desantis in Florida would make since.... Florida is Republican... Although who would take over for Trump/ America 1st in 2028/9 A.D...??? Youngkin in Virginia can't serve back to back terms...That is How Virginia works...
------------- Virginia is a purple state...Trump could pick Youngkin...To get Virginia's electorial votes...Is Youngkin the man to take over in 2028/9 A.D.???.....Or Desantis..???..Trump will pick the person who will carry on America 1st...I doubt A Rep. MTG...will cut it.... Governors , Senators have more upside... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Ok, Desantis will never accept VP. He wants the whole enchilada and he's not going to settle for being VP (in my opinion). Trump picked Pence in 2015 because 'evangelicals'. Trump on his own garnered some support among them, but Pence as a pick closed the loophole and united his base of rabbid conspiracy theory white trash republicans, with more civilized community oriented church going middle class republicans. It was a smart choice (from a winning the election framework, maybe not a governance or 'loyal enough to coup with' framework).

I think Youngkin is a viable option. At this time, maybe the most viable of anyone. I think he checks enough boxes to help Trump in the election, but is he "loyal" enough? Does Trump even like him enough to pick him? Maybe, but i think these are open questions.

Nikki Haley - maybe, but even though she worked for him there are questions about her loyalty to him personally. I'm also unclear on how nominating her helps him flip states, and what those states might be. She has some name recognition, and some popularity but there is no 'cult of die hard Nikki Haley supporters' the way there are for some of the other people in play, and Trump would win South Carolina with or without her.

Rick Scott - Maybe, though Trump resides in Florida and probably doens't need his help to win that state. Unclear what else Rick Scott brings to the table over and above other options. He's old (not as old as Trump), he's white, hes a buisness man, his only elected experience is in a state where Trump will already win, he's probably the single creepiest VP contender (unless we are including Ted Cruz).

This probably won't be a popular opinion here, but I think people need to at least consider that Trump will run, and win the republican nomination (easily) but will have way less popularity than the 2020 election and will see this and pivot to being less concerned with winning 2024 and more concerned with using the time in the spotlight for creating a big trench in the party from which he can control enough republican votes to influence elections for a generation. If there is a political mirror for what I'm describing it's what Jean-Marie Le Pen in France. I even see it ending a similar way with Trump dying and his daughter someday running and probably winning president. Yup, it's opinion + theory but that's basically how i see it playing out... and if I'm kinda onto something MTG is the PERFECT choice.

She doesn't help with winning a general election, but she helps bigtime codifying the far right of the party in dominating the results of primaries over the next decade. I would also say if Republicans win BOTH the senate and house next month Trumps chances of actually winning in 2024 go way down, but then again maybe winning the election won't matter if enough pieces are in place from winning 2022 to just coup again and overturn the will of the people.

[jusplay4fun]

About the only thing that MTG (Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene) brings the "table" or Republican Ticket as VP for the 2024 election is to help solidify the right wing and far right wing. Trump does not need help with either group. Will they vote Democrat? NO Way. The only danger in the 2024 election is that they stay home and NOT vote. As I see things, most are SOOOO Pro-Trump that they will turn out in HUGE numbers for Trump. With that said, MTG then BRINGS NOTHING to the Ticket or "Table" as Trump's VP choice, except that she is a woman (and we do not need Justice Ketanji Onyika Brown Jackson to define that for most Americans).

I agree with Mookie that I do not see DeSantis wanting to be a VP, that he would rather be President. BUT there are times politically to take the #2 and set up a run for POTUS. Nixon did, Mondale TRIED it (1980); LBJ got there (via assassination); George H. W. Bush did it in 1988 (after Reagan).

I think that it is TOO early to even think about a VP.
1) Trump has not decided to run, based on what I read and see.
2) His potential legal problems (Jan 6, Business dealings investigation by Manhattan DA, the Files issue resulting in the Raid at Mar-a-Lago, and more) ALL or ONE could make his RUN a problem from a legal perspective.
3) His is OLD (he will be 78 in 2024, born in 1946) but seems to be in relatively good mental and physical form, unlike the current President (now 79 y.o.), who seems to have lost a step or two or twelve in that past 7 years.

This belongs in the thread on the 2024 election, based on my post, not on Mookie's theories to answer the question posed in the title of this this thread at this time.

[saxitoxin]

This probably won't be a popular opinion here, but I think people need to at least consider that Trump will run, and win the republican nomination (easily) but will have way less popularity than the 2020 election and will see this and pivot to being less concerned with winning 2024 and more concerned with using the time in the spotlight for creating a big trench in the party from which he can control enough republican votes to influence elections for a generation.

So until he's 105?

Anyway, Pompeo has indicated he will run in 2024 regardless of Trump. I will not vote for him. While I wish someone other than Trump would run there is literally no one else in the party who is (a) not a Neocon, and (b) has the gravitas to force the party to adhere to radical Constructivist approaches in foreign policy. Josh Hawley meets part A but not Part B. Merely being a DILF doesn't cut it. He needs a network, personal wealth, and an oversized personality. He doesn't have any of that. Peter Thiel has two of the three but he's a second class (naturalized) citizen so is ineligible to be President.

There is no issue more important to me than the destruction of the United States as an imperial power and its rebuilding into an inward developing neo-mercantilist island state. Trump, for all his many faults, is the only man who can do that, unfortunately.

[bigtoughralf]

He still bombed Middle Eastern babies at the same rate as Obama and Bush though. Let's face it, the world won't be safe from the US war machine until the US is a smoking ruin a la the British Empire.

[mookiemcgee]

This belongs in the thread on the 2024 election, based on my post, not on Mookie's theories to answer the question posed in the title of this this thread at this time.

There is no thread on 2024 elections. There is a thread on 2022 elections. If you prefer to share your thoughts in the other thread by all means do so, but don't be the thread police.

[mookiemcgee]

This probably won't be a popular opinion here, but I think people need to at least consider that Trump will run, and win the republican nomination (easily) but will have way less popularity than the 2020 election and will see this and pivot to being less concerned with winning 2024 and more concerned with using the time in the spotlight for creating a big trench in the party from which he can control enough republican votes to influence elections for a generation.

So until he's 105?

Inshallah!!!

Can you imagine 20 years of Democrats ruling because the right won't put forward electable candidates purely based on puritanical idealism?

Putting entirely aside her electability... Saxi, would you vote for MTG in a primary where trump isn't running? How far up the list would she be for you?

[saxitoxin]

Putting entirely aside her electability... Saxi, would you vote for MTG in a primary where trump isn't running? How far up the list would she be for you?

It depends on whom she was running against.

MTG vs Ralph Nader? Ralph Nader.
MTG vs Liz Cheney? MTG.

[saxitoxin]

He still bombed Middle Eastern babies at the same rate as Obama and Bush though. Let's face it, the world won't be safe from the US war machine until the US is a smoking ruin a la the British Empire.

True.

[jusplay4fun]

This belongs in the thread on the 2024 election, based on my post, not on Mookie's theories to answer the question posed in the title of this this thread at this time.

There is no thread on 2024 elections. There is a thread on 2022 elections. If you prefer to share your thoughts in the other thread by all means do so, but don't be the thread police.

Try this one, Mookie:
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=237819&start=75
The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

I now see that you posted in that thread at least twice. TWO Speeding Tickets for Mookie, by the Police.

I think the Police pulled you over.

[Dukasaur]

There is no issue more important to me than the destruction of the United States as an imperial power and its rebuilding into an inward developing neo-mercantilist island state.

I don't see why.

I mean, I know that neoliberal economists oversold the long-term gain of globalization while contemptuously dismissing the short-term pain that people would have to suffer to get there. That was wrong, and I understand being angry at them. I get all that.

But you can't turn back the clock, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. The short-term pain, terrible as it was, is mostly behind us now. The people who lost jobs to globalization are into retirement age now. Even if their jobs came back, they wouldn't be able to do them any more. Their kids don't want to work at Union Carbide any more than you do. Rolling back the clock on globalization just doesn't make any sense to me. There's more transitional pain going back than there is going forward.

[bigtoughralf]

He still bombed Middle Eastern babies at the same rate as Obama and Bush though. Let's face it, the world won't be safe from the US war machine until the US is a smoking ruin a la the British Empire.

True.

[Evil Semp]

Thank you. Too many toxic foolish people and sanity needs to make a comeback.

... by electing a party led by a senile 81 year old who wants to start a nuclear war.

As opposed to electing a senile 78 year old who wants a civil war?

The Republicans already beat the Democrats in the last civil war. I'm sure this one wouldn't take half as long.

This time around their first foray wasn't very successful.