Are Hispanic people like Tacos?

[jimboston]

though the racist hate group “The Orangemen” operated in upstate New York in the 1800’s persecuting Irish Catholics

Oh now I see why you think the Orange Order is about aggression. You're not aware of the organisation founded in Ireland to protect Protestants, you're only aware of its adoption by Americans who immediately twisted it into some sort of sectarian street gang.

America is like Midas except everything it touches turns to fascism. I'm honestly surprised the American dub of Pokémon didn't just change half the dialogue to Brock being repeatedly called the n-word.

Same difference…. you can say they were defending Protestants, and I say they beat up Catholics.

Are you saying these are mutually exclusive actions?

Depends. Are you saying you think Catholics are an inherent threat to Protestants and that any attack on a Catholic should be treated as self-defence?

No. I’m saying that the Orangemen used the faux threat of Catholic violence as an excuse to preemptively beat the shit out of Catholics and harass businesses that employ or sell to Catholics.

[jimboston]

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Someone who may have had an ancestor from Ireland hundreds of years ago can't claim to have an equivalent right of offense over an abstract slur as someone who actually faces the real-world consequences of those slurs in the form of violence and discrimination. An American citizen of nominal Irish descent has less claim to Éire than a person born to Turkish grandparents who immigrated to Belfast and who lives there now.

Historical American groups like the Hibernians had a legitimate interest in Ireland as they were transient emigrants and intended to return and take the place over. But someone living in Brookline who may go for a holiday there every couple years can't claim any interest beyond tourism or idle curiosity. Tourists can't legitimately claim any special offense toward attacks on the places they tour.

Says you.

It seems to me that a lot of people take offense for a lot of dumb things that aren’t really offensive.

So if they can claim offense, I can be offended by Notre Dame’s “Fighting Irish” if I want.

Also, you have no idea how long my family has been in this country. Maybe I’m first generation, or maybe my great-great-grandfather came her in the 1800’s. Perhaps I myself got off the boat last weekend, and now I’m soooo enamored with the States that I’ve decided to fully commit and call myself American.

Finally… I wish I lived in Brookline. I can’t afford it.

[jimboston]

That said, make no mistake, I like Ireland in the same way I like an aquarium. It's pretty to look at but no sane person would legitimately expect the goldfish to take care of, or run, the aquarium on their own. You don't ask goldfish to clean their own tank or go out and get their own food.

I'd probably refrain from saying that to an Irishman, but I wouldn't care if I said that to an American who claimed some historical connection to Ireland.

Why would you bite your tongue in such a manner?

Are you such a pussy IRL that you are afraid to speak your mind, and only feel safe doing so when protected by the anonymity this forum provides.

Wimp.

[jusplay4fun]

I never understood why Americans call Hispanic a race.

In Hispanic there's Spain.

Hispanic is tanned white, same way Scandinavian is blond white.

And "Latinos"...

Latin languages:

Italian
French
Portugese
Romanian

and... SPANISH.

Guess it's an american thing, but I just don't get it.

If you think of it as a venn diagram, Hispanic fits entirely inside the larger circle that is Latino. All Scandinavians virtually all white, but all whites are not Scandinavian.

The truly American way is to describe them all as 'illegals' though.

Who knew?

Romance languages, group of related languages all derived from Vulgar Latin within historical times and forming a subgroup of the Italic branch of the Indo-European language family. [size=150]The major languages of the family include French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanian, all national languages. Catalan also has taken on a political and cultural significance; among the Romance languages that now have less political or literary significance or both are the Occitan and Rhaetian dialects, Sardinian, and Dalmatian (extinct), among others.[/size] Of all the so-called families of languages, the Romance group is perhaps the simplest to identify and the easiest to account for historically. Not only do Romance languages share a good proportion of basic vocabulary—still recognizably the same in spite of some phonological changes—and a number of similar grammatical forms, but they can be traced back, with but few breaks in continuity, to the language of the Roman Empire. So close is the similarity of each of the Romance languages to Latin as currently known from a rich literature and continuous religious and scholarly tradition that no one doubts the relationship. For the nonspecialist, the testimony of history is even more convincing than the linguistic evidence: Roman occupation of Italy, the Iberian Peninsula, Gaul, and the Balkans accounts for the “Roman” character of the major Romance languages. Later European colonial and commercial contacts with parts of the Americas, of Africa, and of Asia readily explain the French, Spanish, and Portuguese spoken in those regions.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Romance-languages

also:

What Are The Romance Languages?
Deciding what’s a “language” and what’s a “dialect” is a tricky business, because languages really exist on a spectrum, rather than in separate boxes. Therefore, there isn’t full agreement as to exactly how many Romance languages there are. Ethnologue breaks the Romance languages down into 44 different languages.

The most spoken Romance languages are Spanish, French, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian, which combined are spoken by over 90 percent of those who speak a Romance language.

The full list of Romance languages is pretty long: Aragonese, Aromanian, Asturian, Arpitan, Catalan, Corsican, Emilian, Extremaduran, Fala, French, Cajun French, Friulian, Galician, Istriot, Italian, Jèrriais, Judeo-Italian, Ladin, Ladino, Ligurian, Lombard, Minderico, Mirandese, Napoletano-Calabrese, Occitan, Picard, Piedmontese, Portuguese, Romagnol, Romanian, Istro Romanian, Megleno Romanian, Romansh, Campidanese Sardinian, Gallurese Sardinian, Logudorese Sardinian, Sassarese Sardinian, Shuadit, Sicilian, Spanish, Charapa Spanish, Venetian, Walloon and Zarphatic. And those are just the languages that are still around today.

https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/romance-languages

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