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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby jimboston on Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:32 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:--> so, how can the US sell a country if they never bought it in the 1st place...?



You do understand that the English language is not designed for logic, do you not? Plenty of expressions do not mean what they sound like. It is certainly possible to "sell out" without "buying in."


then people should use proper phrasing .. like "sell out'..
don't ask me questions about my comprehension of the English language when referring to me responding to someone who didn't use it properly in the first place..

you can only sell something you own.. in order to own a region or country.. it would have to be bought 1st..

did the US not 'buy' the Kurds in the first place ?


Since you love definitions Nomad...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrase

See ā€œsell outā€ is a phrase that has a definition that may or may not be related to the individual definitions of the words that make up the phrase.

You seem to love definitions... but how do you like then when the make you look like a fool?
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby NomadPatriot on Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:41 pm

jimboston wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:--> so, how can the US sell a country if they never bought it in the 1st place...?



You do understand that the English language is not designed for logic, do you not? Plenty of expressions do not mean what they sound like. It is certainly possible to "sell out" without "buying in."


then people should use proper phrasing .. like "sell out'..
don't ask me questions about my comprehension of the English language when referring to me responding to someone who didn't use it properly in the first place..

you can only sell something you own.. in order to own a region or country.. it would have to be bought 1st..

did the US not 'buy' the Kurds in the first place ?


Since you love definitions Nomad...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrase

See ā€œsell outā€ is a phrase that has a definition that may or may not be related to the individual definitions of the words that make up the phrase.

You seem to love definitions... but how do you like then when the make you look like a fool?


yes I do love definitions..

hence I was originally responding to someone using the word " sell " .. not 'Sell Out'..

learn to follow the conversation.. so you do not act like the fool..
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby mrswdk on Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:40 am

Trump declares that America's alliance with the Kurds didn't matter because Kurds didn't take part in the D-Day landings:

In seemingly writing off the Kurds he suggests that the US can easily find other allies in the region. Really? The US tried pretty well every other option before backing the Kurds. If there is a resurgence of IS then who is Washington going to turn to?

Of course this whole episode also raises questions about the relationship between the US and another important ally - Turkey, which incidentally was also not at Normandy in WWII. Turkey's offensive into Syria risks becoming a major test of Turkey's whole relationship with the West.

This is after all the same Turkey that recently purchased advanced Russian air defence missiles and was thus ejected from the US F-35 fighter programme.

Threats are being made from all sides. Mr Trump has warned Turkey that if it goes too far he will do terrible damage to the Turkish economy. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is telling the Europeans that, if they condemn Turkey's actions, he will allow huge numbers of refugees to head for the EU's borders.

And to think that all these countries are Nato allies!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50000646
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby GoranZ on Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:21 am

mrswdk wrote:Trump declares that America's alliance with the Kurds didn't matter because Kurds didn't take part in the D-Day landings:

In seemingly writing off the Kurds he suggests that the US can easily find other allies in the region. Really? The US tried pretty well every other option before backing the Kurds. If there is a resurgence of IS then who is Washington going to turn to?

Of course this whole episode also raises questions about the relationship between the US and another important ally - Turkey, which incidentally was also not at Normandy in WWII. Turkey's offensive into Syria risks becoming a major test of Turkey's whole relationship with the West.

This is after all the same Turkey that recently purchased advanced Russian air defence missiles and was thus ejected from the US F-35 fighter programme.

Threats are being made from all sides. Mr Trump has warned Turkey that if it goes too far he will do terrible damage to the Turkish economy. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is telling the Europeans that, if they condemn Turkey's actions, he will allow huge numbers of refugees to head for the EU's borders.

And to think that all these countries are Nato allies!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50000646

He failed to mention that the Turks didn't as well... And in WWI Turks were fighting against US, similar as in Barbary Wars.

What an idiot :lol:
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:32 am

mrswdk wrote:Trump declares that America's alliance with the Kurds didn't matter because Kurds didn't take part in the D-Day landings:

In seemingly writing off the Kurds he suggests that the US can easily find other allies in the region. Really? The US tried pretty well every other option before backing the Kurds. If there is a resurgence of IS then who is Washington going to turn to?

Of course this whole episode also raises questions about the relationship between the US and another important ally - Turkey, which incidentally was also not at Normandy in WWII. Turkey's offensive into Syria risks becoming a major test of Turkey's whole relationship with the West.

This is after all the same Turkey that recently purchased advanced Russian air defence missiles and was thus ejected from the US F-35 fighter programme.

Threats are being made from all sides. Mr Trump has warned Turkey that if it goes too far he will do terrible damage to the Turkish economy. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is telling the Europeans that, if they condemn Turkey's actions, he will allow huge numbers of refugees to head for the EU's borders.

And to think that all these countries are Nato allies!



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50000646


so because the BBC says something about D-Day in WW2.. that means Trump said it..?

the article you posted doesn't quote Trump said anything like that..

feel free to quote Trump actually saying it..
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby GoranZ on Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:38 am

NomadPatriot wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Trump declares that America's alliance with the Kurds didn't matter because Kurds didn't take part in the D-Day landings:

In seemingly writing off the Kurds he suggests that the US can easily find other allies in the region. Really? The US tried pretty well every other option before backing the Kurds. If there is a resurgence of IS then who is Washington going to turn to?

Of course this whole episode also raises questions about the relationship between the US and another important ally - Turkey, which incidentally was also not at Normandy in WWII. Turkey's offensive into Syria risks becoming a major test of Turkey's whole relationship with the West.

This is after all the same Turkey that recently purchased advanced Russian air defence missiles and was thus ejected from the US F-35 fighter programme.

Threats are being made from all sides. Mr Trump has warned Turkey that if it goes too far he will do terrible damage to the Turkish economy. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is telling the Europeans that, if they condemn Turkey's actions, he will allow huge numbers of refugees to head for the EU's borders.

And to think that all these countries are Nato allies!



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50000646


so because the BBC says something about D-Day in WW2.. that means Trump said it..?

the article you posted doesn't quote Trump said anything like that..

feel free to quote Trump actually saying it..


Will video work for you DumbPatriot?





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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby mrswdk on Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:19 am

NoProblem: "that video it is deepfake!!!"
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:42 am

GoranZ wrote:






within the 1st 15 seconds of that video Trump says " someone wrote in an article today ' they didn't help us in the 2nd world war'... they referenced numerous battles like Normandy... "

so who wrote the article he is referencing?
because the person who wrote the article he is quoting is the one who said " they didn't help us In WW2.. "
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:44 pm

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/10/trump-cuts-diplomatic-ties-with-germany-after-discovering-they-didnt-help-u-s-in-world-war-ii-either/
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The international community was left reeling as the United States announced it was pulling its diplomatic mission out of Berlin after President Trump was informed that, like the Kurds, Germany had not helped the Allies during World War II.

ā€œNew information has recently been uncovered about World War II in a very, very powerful article in The Scholastic Book of World History,ā€ Trump told reporters. ā€œNot only did the Kurds not help with the landings at Normandy, but neither did the Germans. Nobody knew that before.ā€

Trump went on to say, ā€œI don’t see why America should trade or make treaties with a country that didn’t have our back in 1944, or in other battles like Gettysburg or Iwo Jima or Endor. In the Battle of Trenton against the Hessians, where were the Germans? Nowhere.ā€
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby GoranZ on Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:52 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
GoranZ wrote:






within the 1st 15 seconds of that video Trump says " someone wrote in an article today ' they didn't help us in the 2nd world war'... they referenced numerous battles like Normandy... "

so who wrote the article he is referencing?
because the person who wrote the article he is quoting is the one who said " they didn't help us In WW2.. "

Isn't this wrong address for your question for the quoting... As far as we are concern there is no such article.
But I know who might have wrote it... Putin, it must be him! No American is smarter than Trump so it must be Russian.

Dukasaur wrote:https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/10/trump-cuts-diplomatic-ties-with-germany-after-discovering-they-didnt-help-u-s-in-world-war-ii-either/
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The international community was left reeling as the United States announced it was pulling its diplomatic mission out of Berlin after President Trump was informed that, like the Kurds, Germany had not helped the Allies during World War II.

ā€œNew information has recently been uncovered about World War II in a very, very powerful article in The Scholastic Book of World History,ā€ Trump told reporters. ā€œNot only did the Kurds not help with the landings at Normandy, but neither did the Germans. Nobody knew that before.ā€

Trump went on to say, ā€œI don’t see why America should trade or make treaties with a country that didn’t have our back in 1944, or in other battles like Gettysburg or Iwo Jima or Endor. In the Battle of Trenton against the Hessians, where were the Germans? Nowhere.ā€

Does Canada offer free classes for Americans? If so please start with Trump :D
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:55 pm

GoranZ wrote:Isn't this wrong address for your question for the quoting... As far as we are concern there is no such article.


are you drunk... again?
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby GoranZ on Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:32 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
GoranZ wrote:Isn't this wrong address for your question for the quoting... As far as we are concern there is no such article.


are you drunk... again?

I dont drink and post on CC's forum 8-)
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby mrswdk on Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:13 pm

The Trump-enabled Turkish offensive into Syria is already resulting in the freeing of ISIS prisoners, an immediate resumption of ISIS terrorist attacks in the region, and the murder of Kurdish politicians by Turkish-backed forces:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50029540

Just another day in the life of an American ally!
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:51 pm

mrswdk wrote:The Trump-enabled Turkish offensive into Syria is already resulting in the freeing of ISIS prisoners


sucks to be Europe
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby NomadPatriot on Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:26 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
mrswdk wrote:The Trump-enabled Turkish offensive into Syria is already resulting in the freeing of ISIS prisoners


sucks to be Europe


wonder how long it will take for the EU to initiate Vetting of Foreign Citizens coming from certain countries entering the EU , a Border Wall & Immigration / Refugee restrictions...

I am buying extra popcorn for this. !
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:09 am

mrswdk wrote:the murder of Kurdish politicians by Turkish-backed forces


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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby mrswdk on Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:50 am

Things like this are why everyone wants to cooperate with China these days and openly hates the US.
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby GoranZ on Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:04 pm

mrswdk wrote:Things like this are why everyone wants to cooperate with China these days and openly hates the US.

Everybody wants to cooperate with everybody, except with US. US are full of trash :lol:
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby NomadPatriot on Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:22 pm

mrswdk wrote:Things like this are why everyone wants to cooperate with China these days and openly hates the US.


didn't you start this thread wanting the US to be at war.. ?

but last year you were complaining about our 'Warmonger President'...

so which do you want.. Trump to be a Warmonger or not be a Warmonger..?
your position seems to change depending on who is in the situation..

June 2018 -->
mrswdk wrote:That's a good comparison, because North Korea is the only other country in the world that detains as many of its citizens in prison as the US.

Let's see:

  • Police brutality and murder of citizens - check
  • Huge amounts of people locked up for even trivial offenses - check
  • Routine abuse of prisoner human rights - check
  • Murder of own and others' citizens outside own national borders - check
  • Vast security forces spying on own citizens - check
  • Warmonger presidents living in luxury - check
  • Politicians for life enriching themselves through abuse of their offices - check
  • Constant fear of violence and murder, for both adults and children - check

Looks like living in America isn't much different to living in North Korea.
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby mrswdk on Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:39 pm

I'm flattered that you have paid so much attention to me and committed so many of my posts to memory. It's a shame you don't appear to be very good at comprehending them though (e.g. thinking that the point of this thread is that I want America to go to war).
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:54 pm

mrswdk wrote:Things like this are why everyone wants to cooperate with China these days and openly hates the US.


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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby NomadPatriot on Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:59 pm

mrswdk wrote:I'm flattered that you have paid so much attention to me and committed so many of my posts to memory. It's a shame you don't appear to be very good at comprehending them though (e.g. thinking that the point of this thread is that I want America to go to war).


um.. it took 35 seconds to find that quote.. you do realize you can search any members forum posts by clicking on their profile.. right...?

this thread is about you wanting the US to leave troops in the middle east to continue to engage turkey & to protect the Kurds..
you have stated you are mad Trump withdrew said troops..

so again. which do you want Trump to be ?
a warmonger or not a warmonger...?

you are avoiding the question ..
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby mrswdk on Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:53 pm

@saxi lol as if Australia is ever going to take a stance against its number one trade partner

NomadPatriot wrote:you have stated you are mad Trump withdrew said troops..


Did I?
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby NomadPatriot on Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:13 pm

mrswdk wrote:@saxi lol as if Australia is ever going to take a stance against its number one trade partner

NomadPatriot wrote:you have stated you are mad Trump withdrew said troops..


Did I?


3rd time . which do you want Trump to be ?
a warmonger or not a warmonger...?
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Re: US helps regional allies by allowing Turkey to kill them

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:52 pm

mrswdk wrote:@saxi lol as if Australia is ever going to take a stance against its number one trade partner


Its #1 trade partner doesn't have 5,000 troops on its territory.
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