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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:16 pm

Symm, why so confused?

Kool wrote about how he used to know the Nike Owner/founder's(Phil Knight) son named matt. You made a confused post about how you were missing something. I tried to answer your confusion with the wikipedia article about Matt and how he tragically died. Then you post I'm one of the worst people you've communicated with online... given your grinder history this is quite a statement!!! and now I'm left wondering what got you so worked up?
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby Symmetry on Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:31 pm

Actually, I did you a disservice here and I apologise. I conflated your post with Koolbak's attack on the dead kid.

For that I am sorry, I was simply wrong. You were merely supporting his nonsense point. I don't like it, but that doesn't justify what I said.

I apologise for my previous post.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby spurgistan on Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:42 pm

Not supporting in the least, in my reading, more of a "Umm maybe his death was horrible and not linked to any sort of personal character failing."
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby Symmetry on Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:52 pm

spurgistan wrote:Not supporting in the least, in my reading, more of a "Umm maybe his death was horrible and not linked to any sort of personal character failing."


I felt it was supporting of a nonsense line of argument about how a former Nike executive's kid died. It was and is irrelevant, still, I was in the wrong here, and I apologise for my mistake.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:44 pm

Symmetry wrote:Actually, I did you a disservice here and I apologise. I conflated your post with Koolbak's attack on the dead kid.

For that I am sorry, I was simply wrong. You were merely supporting his nonsense point. I don't like it, but that doesn't justify what I said.

I apologise for my previous post.


Apology accepted! Thanks for your earnest reply... I hadn't intended to take a stand on the issue just supply information
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby Symmetry on Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:17 pm

Back on topic- Kaepernick's first commercial:

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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby betiko on Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:12 am

Symmetry wrote:Back on topic- Kaepernick's first commercial:



oh, he's the guy with just one hand... i did hear about him a few month ago. and he's got a twin brother also playing football right?
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:26 am

No he isn't. Kaepernick was a quarterback that went to the Superbowl and lost. Then his entire team fell apart and became a dysfunctional mess (with a terrible locker-room culture). None of this may be Kaepernick's fault, but he was there for it. Also another team in their division became supergods for a few seasons (when people were cheering they were causing earthquakes) so they were in a bad spot. Then he got replaced as QB and started kneeling during the national anthem instead of standing.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby thegreekdog on Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:33 am

Symmetry wrote:Back on topic- Kaepernick's first commercial:



Good commercial.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby KoolBak on Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:31 am

Uh...."attack on dead kid" ? Really? Damn sym....that hurt. I simply outlined my experience with Nike and it sucked. The kid was a complete narcissistic snob. One of the worst humans I've ever met. The fact that he died tragically has nothing to do with it....I said I felt bad for his dad as I would for any parent losing a child.

Anyway....back to thread....sorry.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby Symmetry on Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:25 am

KoolBak wrote:Uh...."attack on dead kid" ? Really? Damn sym....that hurt. I simply outlined my experience with Nike and it sucked. The kid was a complete narcissistic snob. One of the worst humans I've ever met. The fact that he died tragically has nothing to do with it....I said I felt bad for his dad as I would for any parent losing a child.

Anyway....back to thread....sorry.


Aye, apology accepted. After all, you're not the only one to have been a bit crap in this thread, :oops:
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby Symmetry on Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:28 am

thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Back on topic- Kaepernick's first commercial:



Good commercial.


I liked it too. People can be very cynical about commercials, but they are an art form, and this was a good one.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby betiko on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:30 am

DoomYoshi wrote:No he isn't. Kaepernick was a quarterback that went to the Superbowl and lost. Then his entire team fell apart and became a dysfunctional mess (with a terrible locker-room culture). None of this may be Kaepernick's fault, but he was there for it. Also another team in their division became supergods for a few seasons (when people were cheering they were causing earthquakes) so they were in a bad spot. Then he got replaced as QB and started kneeling during the national anthem instead of standing.


i checked his wiki it said that he plays and always played for the 49s... i don't remember hearing that the 49s ever went to the superbowl since joe montana( check out my sick namedropping!)

i'm pretty sure all you're saying is BS as you know that american football is chinese for people outside of north america. (i'm wondering why symmetry knows anything about all this tbh)

Also.... I'm sure i heard about a guy playing football, like his twin brother and that one of them had to get his hand cut off when he was a kid because it had some nerve problems and he even try to cut it off himself with a kitchen knife and that they were both pro now.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:43 am

betiko wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:No he isn't. Kaepernick was a quarterback that went to the Superbowl and lost. Then his entire team fell apart and became a dysfunctional mess (with a terrible locker-room culture). None of this may be Kaepernick's fault, but he was there for it. Also another team in their division became supergods for a few seasons (when people were cheering they were causing earthquakes) so they were in a bad spot. Then he got replaced as QB and started kneeling during the national anthem instead of standing.


i checked his wiki it said that he plays and always played for the 49s... i don't remember hearing that the 49s ever went to the superbowl since joe montana( check out my sick namedropping!)

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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:38 pm

Just google "49ers toxic locker room. I can't get lmgtfy to load.

Also, you can check out the Seahawks home record from 2013-2015. Since both teams are in the same division, every win for Seattle basically works as a loss for San Fran.

Look up marshawn lynch and beast mode for the richter scale story.

Griffin (the guy with one hand), I don't think has played (maybe he played today). He's on the Seahawks.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby elfish_lad on Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:56 pm

It’s a solid sports commercial. As said above, well crafted.

Super, super smart by Nike in preparation for a post Pres. Trump America. If and when that happens.

It’s also fun to see a powerful company flip the bird to the owners of the NFL.

Nice.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:04 pm

I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:58 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).


Interestingly Green Bay doesn't really have a single owner like every other team, rather it's owned by shareholders. It's kind of a novel idea and it's probably the only reason that the team hasn't moved to a larger market. I think I read or heard somewhere that season ticket holders are offered shares, so a large part of the ownership group is in Wisconsin!

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"Green Bay Packers, Inc. is the official name of the publicly held nonprofit corporation that owns the Green Bay Packers football franchise of the National Football League (NFL).

The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL. Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares, which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding. It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports.

Green Bay is the only team with this public form of ownership structure in the NFL, grandfathered when the NFL's current ownership policy stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake, was established in the 1980s. As a publicly held nonprofit, the Packers are also the only American major-league sports franchise to release its financial balance sheet every year. "
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:12 pm

Exactly. The Packers are the people's team.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby Symmetry on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:54 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).


Interestingly Green Bay doesn't really have a single owner like every other team, rather it's owned by shareholders. It's kind of a novel idea and it's probably the only reason that the team hasn't moved to a larger market. I think I read or heard somewhere that season ticket holders are offered shares, so a large part of the ownership group is in Wisconsin!

Wikipedia:

"Green Bay Packers, Inc. is the official name of the publicly held nonprofit corporation that owns the Green Bay Packers football franchise of the National Football League (NFL).

The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL. Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares, which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding. It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports.

Green Bay is the only team with this public form of ownership structure in the NFL, grandfathered when the NFL's current ownership policy stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake, was established in the 1980s. As a publicly held nonprofit, the Packers are also the only American major-league sports franchise to release its financial balance sheet every year. "


That is kinda cool to know. Good post, mook.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:55 am

elfish_lad wrote:It’s a solid sports commercial. As said above, well crafted.

Super, super smart by Nike in preparation for a post Pres. Trump America. If and when that happens.

It’s also fun to see a powerful company flip the bird to the owners of the NFL.

Nice.


While I suspect "the right thing to do" had something to do with it, sometimes the right thing to do follows the making of money. I think Nike saw the potential ability to take market share before they determined this was the right thing to do. But, then, I'm a cynical capitalist.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby Symmetry on Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:05 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
elfish_lad wrote:It’s a solid sports commercial. As said above, well crafted.

Super, super smart by Nike in preparation for a post Pres. Trump America. If and when that happens.

It’s also fun to see a powerful company flip the bird to the owners of the NFL.

Nice.


While I suspect "the right thing to do" had something to do with it, sometimes the right thing to do follows the making of money. I think Nike saw the potential ability to take market share before they determined this was the right thing to do. But, then, I'm a cynical capitalist.


Meh, Nike is largely a brand nowadays. Their message and their money are inseparable. They don't do things that will hurt either, because it will hurt both.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby elfish_lad on Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:30 am

DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).


Well, let’s not count the Pack. They are their own awesome thing. I drove down twice from Tbay Ontario to join my friend Dale at Lambeau for a game using tickets that have been in his family for awhile. Awesome.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby elfish_lad on Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:33 am

thegreekdog wrote:
elfish_lad wrote:It’s a solid sports commercial. As said above, well crafted.

Super, super smart by Nike in preparation for a post Pres. Trump America. If and when that happens.

It’s also fun to see a powerful company flip the bird to the owners of the NFL.

Nice.


While I suspect "the right thing to do" had something to do with it, sometimes the right thing to do follows the making of money. I think Nike saw the potential ability to take market share before they determined this was the right thing to do. But, then, I'm a cynical capitalist.


Hells yes. Nike wouldn’t do this, no matter religion, politics, stuff that I’m too self-obtuse to see, without running this ten ways to Sunday to be sure they come out on top not matter White, Southern, Weirdo Nike product burners. Hell. There are Nike logos on NFL jerseys... think that they got this figured out?

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Re: Colin Kaepernick, the new face of Nike

Postby betiko on Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:00 am

mookiemcgee wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).


Interestingly Green Bay doesn't really have a single owner like every other team, rather it's owned by shareholders. It's kind of a novel idea and it's probably the only reason that the team hasn't moved to a larger market. I think I read or heard somewhere that season ticket holders are offered shares, so a large part of the ownership group is in Wisconsin!

Wikipedia:

"Green Bay Packers, Inc. is the official name of the publicly held nonprofit corporation that owns the Green Bay Packers football franchise of the National Football League (NFL).

The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL. Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares, which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding. It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports.

Green Bay is the only team with this public form of ownership structure in the NFL, grandfathered when the NFL's current ownership policy stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake, was established in the 1980s. As a publicly held nonprofit, the Packers are also the only American major-league sports franchise to release its financial balance sheet every year. "


this is exaclty how football clubs work in spain (real madrid, bacelona ect..). basically, "socios" are members and owners of the club with their season tickets, those are passed around from grandpa to son to grandson... and those guys vote for a new president of the club. I think there is like 51% that can always only be for socios and the other 49% is what you can buy or something.
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