LOST

by **luns101** on Sun May 27, 2007 12:47 am

strike wolf wrote: I think you are wrong about season 4. The guys on the boat are not who they claim to be. Naomi (or whatever her REAL name is) claimed to have had a connection with Penny (Des's ex) but Charlie heard from Penny and she didn't have any clue what he was talking about. I predict that the boat will actually contain new enemies and may even outline an alliance between Jack and Ben.

Oh yeah, it's totally a theory on my part about season 4. I was thinking also that when Kate told Jack, "I've got to get back or he'll start to wonder where I'm at." I'm sure most people think she hooked up with Sawyer. The way the producers like to spin things around on us, wouldn't it be funny if she ended up connecting with Hurley? You never know with this show!

by **strike wolf** on Sun May 27, 2007 9:50 pm

There are still so many questions. Who is Jacob? What happened to Ben's girlfriend who gave him the carving? Was she killed with the rest of dharma? or did she leave the island? Can Ben really hear Jacob (I don't think he can)? And there's soo many more.

*And yes this is a bump.*

by **Phobia** on Mon May 28, 2007 6:50 am

why did jacob say "help me" :shock:

by **moz976** on Mon May 28, 2007 6:59 am

Phobia wrote:why did jacob say "help me"

I think that Ben is some how controlling him.

by **strike wolf** on Mon May 28, 2007 3:06 pm

Phobia wrote:why did jacob say "help me"

Well, Ben did say the island was in trouble. I don't really know though. I don't think that Ben can really hear Jacob though.

I also don't think that Ben controls Jacob because Jacob did throw him against the wall (Not much of a reason but it does make sense.)

by **Phobia** on Mon May 28, 2007 3:41 pm

strike wolf wrote:
Phobia wrote:why did jacob say "help me"

Well, Ben did say the island was in trouble. I don't really know though. I don't think that Ben can really hear Jacob though.

I also don't think that Ben controls Jacob because Jacob did throw him against the wall (Not much of a reason but it does make sense.)

plus the fact that ben was shaking at the thought of visiting jacob implies he is not someone he is in control of.

by **strike wolf** on Mon May 28, 2007 3:45 pm

Phobia wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
Phobia wrote:why did jacob say "help me"

Well, Ben did say the island was in trouble. I don't really know though. I don't think that Ben can really hear Jacob though.

I also don't think that Ben controls Jacob because Jacob did throw him against the wall (Not much of a reason but it does make sense.)

plus the fact that ben was shaking at the thought of visiting jacob implies he is not someone he is in control of.

Exactly. I think Ben just uses Jacob as a way to control his people. (have you noticed that Ben says Jacob every ten seconds now?)

by **spiesr** on Mon May 28, 2007 3:59 pm

Locke should stay dead...

by **sully800** on Mon May 28, 2007 5:51 pm

strike wolf wrote:What happened to Ben's girlfriend who gave him the carving? Was she killed with the rest of dharma? or did she leave the island?

I'm sure she is still alive. They set it up for her to be important, and the way Ben kept looking at the doll when he was grown up seems to indicate she must be around somewhere.

I just realized something about an hour ago though- When Ben shot Locke, he said "I was one of the few who was smart enough not to end up in this pit". That of course must mean at least one other dharma person survived, but we don't know of any. That may be settled later.

As for the coffin, I think Locke Ben and Michael are all great guesses, because they are all people who Jack wouldn't consider a friend. The newspaper clip apparently said the man was from New York, hung himself and had a teenage son. Michael was from NY but Walt wouldn't be a teenager if that flash was in 2007. Of course it could be later. I can't explain why Michael would hang himself based on our knowledge, but Locke and Ben would be likely candidates if they were forced to leave the island.

by **Phobia** on Mon May 28, 2007 6:00 pm

sully800 wrote: The newspaper clip apparently said the man was from New York, hung himself and had a teenage son. Michael was from NY but Walt wouldn't be a teenager if that flash was in 2007. Of course it could be later.

Actually, the show is set in 2004, and we were told that walt was 10 when he crashed onto the island. So, if it was set in 2007, it would be walt is 13, so he would be a teenager.

by **Kugelblitz22** on Mon May 28, 2007 6:10 pm

luns101 wrote: I'm sure most people think she hooked up with Sawyer.

Yeah I don't think that is the case though. I think Kate is with someone yet unnamed who wasn't on the island. After all the losties have been through, Sawyer would understand if Kate had to go see Jack at two in the morning.

by **Kugelblitz22** on Mon May 28, 2007 6:12 pm

luns101 wrote:Who do you guys think was the person in the coffin who nobody came to see at the viewing, with the exception of Jack?

Your boy, Locke.

by **JoeCorden** on Mon May 28, 2007 7:11 pm

sully800 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:What happened to Ben's girlfriend who gave him the carving? Was she killed with the rest of dharma? or did she leave the island?

I'm sure she is still alive. They set it up for her to be important, and the way Ben kept looking at the doll when he was grown up seems to indicate she must be around somewhere.

I just realized something about an hour ago though- When Ben shot Locke, he said "I was one of the few who was smart enough not to end up in this pit". That of course must mean at least one other dharma person survived, but we don't know of any. That may be settled later.

As for the coffin, I think Locke Ben and Michael are all great guesses, because they are all people who Jack wouldn't consider a friend. The newspaper clip apparently said the man was from New York, hung himself and had a teenage son. Michael was from NY but Walt wouldn't be a teenager if that flash was in 2007. Of course it could be later. I can't explain why Michael would hang himself based on our knowledge, but Locke and Ben would be likely candidates if they were forced to leave the island.

Could Ben's girlfriend have been one of the first women to die in childbirth? That would explain why she isn't mentioned, maybe she was "smart enough" to avoid death in the pit but then died giving birth to Ben's child.

by **happy2seeyou** on Mon May 28, 2007 7:18 pm

JoeCorden wrote:
sully800 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:What happened to Ben's girlfriend who gave him the carving? Was she killed with the rest of dharma? or did she leave the island?

I'm sure she is still alive. They set it up for her to be important, and the way Ben kept looking at the doll when he was grown up seems to indicate she must be around somewhere.

I just realized something about an hour ago though- When Ben shot Locke, he said "I was one of the few who was smart enough not to end up in this pit". That of course must mean at least one other dharma person survived, but we don't know of any. That may be settled later.

As for the coffin, I think Locke Ben and Michael are all great guesses, because they are all people who Jack wouldn't consider a friend. The newspaper clip apparently said the man was from New York, hung himself and had a teenage son. Michael was from NY but Walt wouldn't be a teenager if that flash was in 2007. Of course it could be later. I can't explain why Michael would hang himself based on our knowledge, but Locke and Ben would be likely candidates if they were forced to leave the island.

Could Ben's girlfriend have been one of the first women to die in childbirth? That would explain why she isn't mentioned, maybe she was "smart enough" to avoid death in the pit but then died giving birth to Ben's child.

Ben doesn't have any children. Alex was stolen as a baby and Ben pretended to be her father.

by **sully800** on Mon May 28, 2007 8:25 pm

JoeCorden wrote:Could Ben's girlfriend have been one of the first women to die in childbirth? That would explain why she isn't mentioned, maybe she was "smart enough" to avoid death in the pit but then died giving birth to Ben's child.

That's a really good thought! That would bring even more intrigue to the women dying during childbirth if it happened to Ben's mom and his wife.

And happy- we don't know of any children that Ben has/had but that doesn't mean he never had children. :-k

by **spiesr** on Mon May 28, 2007 8:27 pm

If she was, she would not have made it to birth but would have died before that...

by **luns101** on Mon May 28, 2007 8:48 pm

Is anyone here aware enough about the geography of the island and the hatches in order to create a LOST risk map here? Anybody know the regulars who produce maps...maybe I could follow up on that.

by **Kugelblitz22** on Mon May 28, 2007 9:19 pm

luns101 wrote:Is anyone here aware enough about the geography of the island and the hatches in order to create a LOST risk map here? Anybody know the regulars who produce maps...maybe I could follow up on that.

Luns, you are the man. I don't know maps but I am willing to learn if it
means a Lost map. Having said that...

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 29, 2007 1:35 am

spiesr wrote:Locke should stay dead...

You have upset me with that post. Locke is too important to die on the show.

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 29, 2007 1:36 am

Phobia wrote:
sully800 wrote: The newspaper clip apparently said the man was from New York, hung himself and had a teenage son. Michael was from NY but Walt wouldn't be a teenager if that flash was in 2007. Of course it could be later.

Actually, the show is set in 2004, and we were told that walt was 10 when he crashed onto the island. So, if it was set in 2007, it would be walt is 13, so he would be a teenager.

Like I said, Michael is the leading theory unless all that information is only there to mislead us.

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 29, 2007 1:38 am

luns101 wrote:Is anyone here aware enough about the geography of the island and the hatches in order to create a LOST risk map here? Anybody know the regulars who produce maps...maybe I could follow up on that.

The lost map was suggested but since so little is known about the island, the idea was abandoned.

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 29, 2007 1:42 am

Kugelblitz22 wrote:
luns101 wrote: I'm sure most people think she hooked up with Sawyer.

Yeah I don't think that is the case though. I think Kate is with someone yet unnamed who wasn't on the island. After all the losties have been through, Sawyer would understand if Kate had to go see Jack at two in the morning.

I think she is with Sawyer, I don't really see her hooking up with anybody else and I have the feeling she just rushed over without taking the time to tell whoever was there. I also am a little more doubtful about Sawyer understanding, Kate going over to see Jack with that whole Love Triangle thing that's been going on.

Anyways sorry for the Multiposts, I just really get into this show.

by **derfderf34** on Tue May 29, 2007 9:38 am

Kugelblitz22 wrote:
luns101 wrote:Who do you guys think was the person in the coffin who nobody came to see at the viewing, with the exception of Jack?

Your boy, Locke.

no way it was ben because everyone hates him

i think the ending was stupid showing them off the island no no

by **happy2seeyou** on Tue May 29, 2007 9:44 am

Did anyone else find it weird (funny) that Jack wrote a prescription for himself and signed his fathers name? Or that his father was mentioned a few times??