BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN SHOWN IN SCHOOL

[falcon]

Rather contradictory, dont you think?

No, not at all.

Its like saying I am myself and my own father. Aside from making me rather inbred, that is tehnically impossible.

Anyway; back on topic. Why is Christianity allowed, when Brokeback Mountain is not?

you obviously have no intention of trying to understand it

In public school, neither is allowed, which is why the teacher is getting sued.

[Balsiefen]

Where is religion taught in school?

Uh Jay, in just about every public school Biology classroom in America.

In Biology

why?

[falcon]

Rather contradictory, dont you think?

No, not at all.

Its like saying I am myself and my own father. Aside from making me rather inbred, that is tehnically impossible.

Anyway; back on topic. Why is Christianity allowed, when Brokeback Mountain is not?

Because, obviously, it has homosexuals in it and you do know homosexuals are the devil themself.

please refer yourself back to my points about sarcastic comments

[falcon]

Where is religion taught in school?

Uh Jay, in just about every public school Biology classroom in America.

not really, unless you can prove it

[Skittles!]

Rather contradictory, dont you think?

No, not at all.

Its like saying I am myself and my own father. Aside from making me rather inbred, that is tehnically impossible.

Anyway; back on topic. Why is Christianity allowed, when Brokeback Mountain is not?

Because, obviously, it has homosexuals in it and you do know homosexuals are the devil themself.

please refer yourself back to my points about sarcastic comments

I don't think I have to. I have a right to state my opinions in whatever way I please, and Jay has a right to do it aswell, the same as everyone else. But when Jay's opinion's disagree with mine, is when I can argue about it.

[Neutrino]

Rather contradictory, dont you think?

No, not at all.

Its like saying I am myself and my own father. Aside from making me rather inbred, that is tehnically impossible.

Anyway; back on topic. Why is Christianity allowed, when Brokeback Mountain is not?

you obviously have no intention of trying to understand it

In public school, neither is allowed, which is why the teacher is getting sued.

No I dont, since it appears to be a nonsensical and contradictory piece of crap. But thats just my view.

Anyway, It is very much taught in public schools. I was very relieved to get into High School, since they didnt have RE any more.

[jay_a2j]

Where is religion taught in school?

Uh Jay, in just about every public school Biology classroom in America.

Wow, things must have changed over the years....I remember dissecting a frog.

[falcon]

[quote="Skittles
I don't think I have to. I have a right to state my opinions in whatever way I please, and Jay has a right to do it aswell, the same as everyone else. But when Jay's opinion's disagree with mine, is when I can argue about it.[/quote]

The problem is your not furthering any sort of debate with those comments and are no better than jay when you use them.

[Skittles!]

I don't think I have to. I have a right to state my opinions in whatever way I please, and Jay has a right to do it aswell, the same as everyone else. But when Jay's opinion's disagree with mine, is when I can argue about it.

The problem is your not furthering any sort of debate with those comments and are no better than jay when you use them.

No, I'm pointing out the stupidity of the idea that people are getting sued because a movie had homosexuals in it.

[Neutrino]

I don't think I have to. I have a right to state my opinions in whatever way I please, and Jay has a right to do it aswell, the same as everyone else. But when Jay's opinion's disagree with mine, is when I can argue about it.

The problem is your not furthering any sort of debate with those comments and are no better than jay when you use them.

He is furthering the debate. He is expressing his utter contempt for your idea with minimum energy. You can actually express quite a lot of information via sarcasm.

[falcon]

[quote="Neutrino
No I dont, since it appears to be a nonsensical and contradictory piece of crap. But thats just my view.

Anyway, It is very much taught in public schools. I was very relieved to get into High School, since they didnt have RE any more.[/quote]

Then I respect your opinion and I ask you to respect those who hold a conflicting opinion.

In my high school, we had one year long religion course that was optional. Before that the only reference to religion was brief overviews in History.

[Neutrino]

No I dont, since it appears to be a nonsensical and contradictory piece of crap. But thats just my view.

Anyway, It is very much taught in public schools. I was very relieved to get into High School, since they didnt have RE any more.

Then I respect your opinion and I ask you to respect those who hold a conflicting opinion.

In my high school, we had one year long religion course that was optional. Before that the only reference to religion was brief overviews in History.

Hmm, well the theory in my primary school seemed to be "get 'em when they're young and impressionable"
RE was every Wendsday and, while it was optional, you had to say that you didnt want to participate, when it really should have been, you participate if you give a note saying you want to.

[falcon]

No, sarcasm is useful in everyday speech but not in a debate setting. It attempts to invalidate a point without rebutting it with any viable proof. The only people who believe the sarcasm are those unknowledgable or those who already see from the same point of view.

[Skittles!]

Eh, I'm sick of this. I'm gonna go play some DoW

[falcon]

No I dont, since it appears to be a nonsensical and contradictory piece of crap. But thats just my view.

Anyway, It is very much taught in public schools. I was very relieved to get into High School, since they didnt have RE any more.

Then I respect your opinion and I ask you to respect those who hold a conflicting opinion.

In my high school, we had one year long religion course that was optional. Before that the only reference to religion was brief overviews in History.

Hmm, well the theory in my primary school seemed to be "get 'em when they're young and impressionable"
RE was every Wendsday and, while it was optional, you had to say that you didnt want to participate, when it really should have been, you participate if you give a note saying you want to.

There have been multiple supreme court cases that have outlawed such practices, so if you want it changed you can sue that same way the people against brokeback are.

[Neutrino]

No I dont, since it appears to be a nonsensical and contradictory piece of crap. But thats just my view.

Anyway, It is very much taught in public schools. I was very relieved to get into High School, since they didnt have RE any more.

Then I respect your opinion and I ask you to respect those who hold a conflicting opinion.

In my high school, we had one year long religion course that was optional. Before that the only reference to religion was brief overviews in History.

Hmm, well the theory in my primary school seemed to be "get 'em when they're young and impressionable"
RE was every Wendsday and, while it was optional, you had to say that you didnt want to participate, when it really should have been, you participate if you give a note saying you want to.

There have been multiple supreme court cases that have outlawed such practices, so if you want it changed you can sue that same way the people against brokeback are.

So you are proposing sueing a promary school for having a few RE classes. They were irritating, but I dint think the school needs to be sued about it.

Been slightly injured? Didnt agree with something that someone did? Simply want some money?

Sue them, its the American way!

Anyway, im off to brutally crush the opposition in a nice game of DoW.
Good day to you all, and remember, never stop sueing!

[falcon]

So you are proposing sueing a promary school for having a few RE classes. They were irritating, but I dint think the school needs to be sued about it.

Been slightly injured? Didnt agree with something that someone did? Simply want some money?

Sue them, its the American way!

That is the people who are against the brokebacks plan is, which is wrong.

No that is not what I want you to do. If these classes offended or injured you, you should have either brought this up with your local schoolboard, congressman, or state education administration.

If you don't want to do this then it didn't bother you enough for you to exercise your civic rights which is also your civic right

[Balsiefen]

So you are proposing sueing a promary school for having a few RE classes. They were irritating, but I dint think the school needs to be sued about it.

Been slightly injured? Didnt agree with something that someone did? Simply want some money?

Sue them, its the American way!

That is the people who are against the brokebacks plan is, which is wrong.

No that is not what I want you to do. If these classes offended or injured you, you should have either brought this up with your local schoolboard, congressman, or state education administration.

If you don't want to do this then it didn't bother you enough for you to exercise your civic rights which is also your civic right

I agree but the first thing you think when your 5 is not going to the congressman. Anyway religion is generally not harmful although it is not right to preach it to people who would not understand the entire concept and cannot defend their own beliefs, but neither is brokeback mountain. a teachr showing a film to people under its age limit is in the wrong but i doubt the child actually suffered psycological damage from it

[Neutrino]

So you are proposing sueing a promary school for having a few RE classes. They were irritating, but I dint think the school needs to be sued about it.

Been slightly injured? Didnt agree with something that someone did? Simply want some money?

Sue them, its the American way!

That is the people who are against the brokebacks plan is, which is wrong.

No that is not what I want you to do. If these classes offended or injured you, you should have either brought this up with your local schoolboard, congressman, or state education administration.

If you don't want to do this then it didn't bother you enough for you to exercise your civic rights which is also your civic right

I agree but the first thing you think when your 5 is not going to the congressman. Anyway religion is generally not harmful although it is not right to preach it to people who would not understand the entire concept and cannot defend their own beliefs, but neither is brokeback mountain. a teachr showing a film to people under its age limit is in the wrong but i doubt the child actually suffered psycological damage from it

Exactly. A much more likely senario is that the child told the parents about it and the parents realised they could milk this for a lot of money.

[Neutrino]

So you are proposing sueing a promary school for having a few RE classes. They were irritating, but I dint think the school needs to be sued about it.

Been slightly injured? Didnt agree with something that someone did? Simply want some money?

Sue them, its the American way!

That is the people who are against the brokebacks plan is, which is wrong.

No that is not what I want you to do. If these classes offended or injured you, you should have either brought this up with your local schoolboard, congressman, or state education administration.

If you don't want to do this then it didn't bother you enough for you to exercise your civic rights which is also your civic right

The comments about sueing everone was more in mockery of the American (and Australian) legal systems than in response to your suggestion.

[Iliad]

Religion is taught in schools and its Christianity, not religion. If It were religion they would teach others, rather than just the one the state has accepted.

I dont have the actual stastics, but 1:10 dosent seem to extreme to me.

Sarcasm is a good tool for those who don't wish to use unncessilary large amounts of expletives to get their point across and

compared to Australia, America has many, many R rated movies.

Please find the statistics

Sarcasm and large amounts of expletives serve the same purpose: to slam an opposing view point with offering an credible response yourself.

Who's to tell which one got it right

Just look at the different rating systems in America And the Us, the Us R17+ is a MA15+ here! For instance 300 can be viewed by fifteen year olds!

[Koesen]

Exactly. A much more likely senario is that the child told the parents about it and the parents realised they could milk this for a lot of money.

One of the most sensible replies in this thread.

While it is not very smart to show an R-rated movie to 12 year olds in a litigation society like the US, there's nothing strictly illegal about it. 'R' means viewers under 17 need to be accompanied by an adult guardian - such as a teacher.

$500,000? Get real. That's greed, nothing else.

Personally, I would prefer that a school shows movies or addresses in other ways both alternative lifestyles and different kinds of religion (including atheism and agnosticism, though thopse aren't technically religions of course). They're all part of life, and that's what you want your child to be prepared for.

Last but not least: the MPAA ratings, with their phobia of sexuality and acceptance of violence, are highly debatable.

Edit: research on homosexuality rates can be foundhere:

The 10% thesis seems a bit on the high side, though most research indicates there will still be at least one homosexual kid in any classroom. Unless if you count single homosexual experiences, in wich case it's closer to one in three.[/url]

[Dancing Mustard]

I don't know what Jay is so upset at. Gay Cowboys are awesome! If he checks his bible carefully then he'll find that Jesus once said "Blessed are the ranchers of cattle who lay with one another. In God's Heaven they will be blessed amongst men". I beleive it's part of his Sermon on the Mount Speech, Mark's Gospel if I'm not mistaken...
The point is, that sexing other male cowboys isn't an alternative lifestyle at all, and we ought to be encouraging little children to do it. It's the Christian way; and if Jay doesn't agree then he ought to be fed to Satan. The bible says so.

[strike wolf]

Oh give me a break! You know as well as I if the teacher played Passion of the Christ instead, the ACLU would have been called in and sued the school, the teacher and Mel Gibson!
If religion should not be forced on kids (and I agree that it shouldn't) neither should alternative lifestyles.


Some parents raise their kids with Christian values and this is a blatant disregard of the parents will that their child should not be exposed to this. Not only that the movie is rated R and it was shown to 12 year olds?

I think I have to agree with Jay here. Regardless of what the movie is about, you can never show an R-rated movie in school without parent and student consent.

[The1exile]

RE has been compulsorily taught in my schools throughout my education for... 10 years, at least?