Lord of the Rings

by **Koesen** on Wed May 09, 2007 1:26 pm

No, he's human.

by **red bull** on Wed May 09, 2007 1:27 pm

Koesen wrote:No, he's human.

sorry dont know the human race to well ...... i study the dwarfs the most but is he in the line of kings ?

by **Koesen** on Wed May 09, 2007 1:29 pm

As far as I know, he is not a king.

Here's a hint that will either mean nothing or give it away immediately: he is mentioned in the same sentence as one of the two Fastreds.

by **Sunstripe** on Wed May 09, 2007 4:45 pm

dcowboys055 wrote:
Sunstripe wrote:Really It was Dain? I think it was Nain, but maybe I read it wrong. Hard to argue with a guy who can name Thorin's gang off the top of his head. I'm searching amazon.com as we speak!

Dain, son of Nain. Easy to mix up

Oh thanks

by **Sunstripe** on Wed May 09, 2007 4:47 pm

Koesen wrote:As far as I know, he is not a king.

Here's a hint that will either mean nothing or give it away immediately: he is mentioned in the same sentence as one of the two Fastreds.

Hmmm... is this from the lord of the rings or another book like the hobbit or similarillion?

by **lduke1990** on Wed May 09, 2007 5:27 pm

Fastred is Silmarillion as far as I know, but I can't think of who Horn is...

by **Sunstripe** on Wed May 09, 2007 6:39 pm

lduke1990 wrote:Fastred is Silmarillion as far as I know, but I can't think of who Horn is...

dang haven't read that one yet

by **lduke1990** on Wed May 09, 2007 10:13 pm

? it is the first one, how can you pick a series up in the middle/end?

by **Sunstripe** on Wed May 09, 2007 10:28 pm

lduke1990 wrote:? it is the first one, how can you pick a series up in the middle/end?

I just read the fellowship of the ring, the 2 towers, and the return of the king

by **war_bloodline** on Wed May 09, 2007 10:37 pm

Sunstripe wrote:
lduke1990 wrote:? it is the first one, how can you pick a series up in the middle/end?

I just read the fellowship of the ring, the 2 towers, and the return of the king

The Silmarillion is great.

by **MSTK** on Wed May 09, 2007 10:50 pm

Honestly, you can't really be disappointed when someone asks a question that isn't in the Trilogy. After all, the trilogy is only about twenty years out of the almost ten thousand that have passed in the Tolkien World. Not only that, but Middle Earth is just but a single continent in the vast expanses of Arda. The Trilogy, in truth, contains very, very little of Tolkien's mythology.

Don't think that by reading The Hobbit or The Silmarillion -- or even both -- you will gain a somewhat comprehensive knowledge of the Tolkien universe. It's still only the tip of the ice burg. And I'm probably not so far, myself.

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As for the question...

I'm guessing it's involving Fastred of Rohan, if he's human. Am I right?

by **lduke1990** on Wed May 09, 2007 11:12 pm

ah but the Ardic Compendium is roughly 1500 pages and as yet unfinished

by **Sunstripe** on Thu May 10, 2007 6:59 am

MSTK wrote:Honestly, you can't really be disappointed when someone asks a question that isn't in the Trilogy. After all, the trilogy is only about twenty years out of the almost ten thousand that have passed in the Tolkien World. Not only that, but Middle Earth is just but a single continent in the vast expanses of Arda. The Trilogy, in truth, contains very, very little of Tolkien's mythology.

Don't think that by reading The Hobbit or The Silmarillion -- or even both -- you will gain a somewhat comprehensive knowledge of the Tolkien universe. It's still only the tip of the ice burg. And I'm probably not so far, myself.

---

As for the question...

I'm guessing it's involving Fastred of Rohan, if he's human. Am I right?

I am trying to find the histroy of middle earth books, but how many volumes are there? last I saw it was up to 11 and I don't know what to buy. Can I get some advice/help?

by **Koesen** on Thu May 10, 2007 7:57 am

The question was about Horn, not about Fastred:)

He is mentioned in the Return of the King. Only once, but it's there!

by **red bull** on Thu May 10, 2007 10:55 am

i believe horn is a ranger ... but i do not think he is the leader is he ....

by **Koesen** on Thu May 10, 2007 11:39 am

I think you're thinking about Halbarad.

Since this thread seems to suffer from my question, I'll give the answer: Horn is one of the human warriors killed in the battle for Minas Tirith. His name is mentioned in a song that lists some of the great fallen warriors.

New question, then, an easier one: what's the name of the hobbit who narrowly escapes the black riders at Crickhollow?

by **mr. incrediball** on Thu May 10, 2007 11:43 am

MSTK wrote:Honestly, you can't really be disappointed when someone asks a question that isn't in the Trilogy. After all, the trilogy is only about twenty years out of the almost ten thousand that have passed in the Tolkien World. Not only that, but Middle Earth is just but a single continent in the vast expanses of Arda. The Trilogy, in truth, contains very, very little of Tolkien's mythology.

Don't think that by reading The Hobbit or The Silmarillion -- or even both -- you will gain a somewhat comprehensive knowledge of the Tolkien universe. It's still only the tip of the ice burg. And I'm probably not so far, myself.

---

As for the question...

I'm guessing it's involving Fastred of Rohan, if he's human. Am I right?

LOTR nerds...

by **red bull** on Thu May 10, 2007 11:45 am

mr. incrediball wrote:
MSTK wrote:Honestly, you can't really be disappointed when someone asks a question that isn't in the Trilogy. After all, the trilogy is only about twenty years out of the almost ten thousand that have passed in the Tolkien World. Not only that, but Middle Earth is just but a single continent in the vast expanses of Arda. The Trilogy, in truth, contains very, very little of Tolkien's mythology.

Don't think that by reading The Hobbit or The Silmarillion -- or even both -- you will gain a somewhat comprehensive knowledge of the Tolkien universe. It's still only the tip of the ice burg. And I'm probably not so far, myself.

---

As for the question...

I'm guessing it's involving Fastred of Rohan, if he's human. Am I right?

LOTR nerds...

yep

by **Iz Man** on Thu May 10, 2007 1:45 pm

I've been reading and re-reading Tolkien's work for about 25 years now.
I've read the LOTR trilogy and The Hobbit several times. The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales (2 books), Farmer Giles Of Ham, and a few of Tolkien's letters.

by **Titanic** on Thu May 10, 2007 1:58 pm

Koesen wrote:I think you're thinking about Halbarad.

Since this thread seems to suffer from my question, I'll give the answer: Horn is one of the human warriors killed in the battle for Minas Tirith. His name is mentioned in a song that lists some of the great fallen warriors.

New question, then, an easier one: what's the name of the hobbit who narrowly escapes the black riders at Crickhollow?

Fatty Bolger.

How the fck were we meantto get Horn?

My question - Where did Thorin meet Gandalf when they discussed as to how to kill Smaug?

by **Iz Man** on Thu May 10, 2007 2:14 pm

Titanic wrote:My question - Where did Thorin meet Gandalf when they discussed as to how to kill Smaug?

hmmm, good one. I'm surprised I don't know that off the top of my head.
I know that Gandalf received the map & key from Thrain II, Thorin's father, while trying to rescue him from Sauron in the pits of Dol Guldur.
I'll have to look that one up.

by **Iz Man** on Thu May 10, 2007 2:18 pm

I guess I'll start with a relatively easy one.

What are the 4 other names Gandalf goes by?

by **Titanic** on Thu May 10, 2007 2:35 pm

Wtf, you didn get the answer to my question. Its true he met Thrain, II, father of Thorin in Dol Guldor, I remember that one.

To your question -

Mithrandir - use by the elves.
Stromcrow - by Wormtongue, and people who dont like him
Gandalf Greyhame - The north men use this ones dont they? and the Rohirram, but they are North men anyway.
White Rider - as used by Pippin and Aragon in Minas Tirith

I know the dwarves have a name for him, and the Harad men in the south have names for him, but there only used once in the entire series when Gandalf tells it to someone, Frodo I think.

by **Koesen** on Thu May 10, 2007 2:42 pm

Titanic wrote:How the fck were we meantto get Horn?

Who said you were supposed to get it?

Another name for Gandalf is Tharkun (dwarf name). And in his youth he was called Olorin, in the west that was forgotten.

I'll need to think about Thorin and Gandalf (I'm not going to look anything up).

by **Iz Man** on Thu May 10, 2007 2:50 pm

Titanic wrote:Wtf, you didn get the answer to my question. Its true he met Thrain, II, father of Thorin in Dol Guldor, I remember that one.

To your question -

Mithrandir - use by the elves.
Stromcrow - by Wormtongue, and people who dont like him
Gandalf Greyhame - The north men use this ones dont they? and the Rohirram, but they are North men anyway.
White Rider - as used by Pippin and Aragon in Minas Tirith

I know the dwarves have a name for him, and the Harad men in the south have names for him, but there only used once in the entire series when Gandalf tells it to someone, Frodo I think.

Here they are:

Mithrandir - "Grey Wanderer", the name given to Gandalf by the Elves

Olorin - A Maia of the people of Manwë and Varda, Olórin was said to be one of the wisest of his order. He came to Middle-earth in the Third Age in the guise better known as Gandalf.

Incanus - Gandalf's name 'in the south' (probably meaning no further south than Gondor or the Near Harad), gained during his long travels in Middle-earth in the mid-Third Age.

Tharkun - The name given to Gandalf the Grey by the Dwarves.

Grehame, White Rider, and Stormcrow were all names given by the people of Rohan. Nicknames or surnames really. White Rider, in particular, was only after he rode Shadowfax, most to contrast the Nazgul (Black Riders).

So I guess I can't say you're wrong. I should've rephrased my question.

Good Job.

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