science debate

by **Neutrino** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:10 am

Kid_A wrote:you people have no idea what you're talking about.

Educate yourself!!

Live on earth BEGAN with oxygen. As well as methane amonia nitrogen. There is not a single living organism on this planet that could survive without oxygen

In fact, there are many billions of organisms that can survive without oxygen. Life was probably started by bacteria clustering around oceanic vents, living off the Sulphur.

Later various other types of Bacteria appeared, which breathed other things like Carbon Dioxide, and ammonia. The Carbon Dioxide ones breathed in Carbon Dioxide, and expelled Oxygen. After a while the Oxygen built up and Oxygen breathing Bacteria evolved, which evolved into plants, animals, etc...

But thses Carbon Dioxide breathers are still around, deep in the Earths crust, just waiting to come out and destroy us all!

No... wait... their not going to do that, but they are still alive.

That is all.

P.S. The Sulphur ones are still around

P.P.S. there is no way in hell that the Earth will be uninhabitable to humans in 40 years. The Earth has been hit by Meteriorites that detonated with more than 10 times humanities nuclear stockpile at the hight of the Cold War and reasonably complex life survived that. The current Western society might crumble (probably a good thing...) but there is no way Humanity will die out on that short a timescale.

by **Kid_A** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:26 am

yes, you guys are right about life without oxygen, i dont know why i said otherwise. however, humans would have some difficulty with that. :sick:

by **Neutrino** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:29 am

Kid_A wrote:yes, you guys are right about life without oxygen, i dont know why i said otherwise. however, humans would have some difficulty with that.

There will still be enough Oxygen in 1000 years, even if we keep polluting at the current rate. What people are worried about is what the Carbon is doing to the environment.

by **Kid_A** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:44 am

and the pollution of our already scarce water supply, our top soil eroding, deforestation, the global population growing at an exponential rate and our lack of natural resources to provide for everyone, polluted air.

by **unriggable** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:56 am

Kid_A wrote:and the pollution of our already scarce water supply, our top soil eroding, deforestation, the global population growing at an exponential rate and our lack of natural resources to provide for everyone, polluted air.

Actually burning will cause us to have more water. C6H6 (I think that's gasoline) + 15O -> 6CO2 + 3H2O

by **Kid_A** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:09 am

unriggable wrote:
Kid_A wrote:and the pollution of our already scarce water supply, our top soil eroding, deforestation, the global population growing at an exponential rate and our lack of natural resources to provide for everyone, polluted air.

Actually burning will cause us to have more water. C6H6 (I think that's gasoline) + 15O -> 6CO2 + 3H2O

burning what?

and our water gets more polluted everyday

by **reverend_kyle** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:32 am

Stopper wrote:I like the way this thread keeps coming back to having sex with robots.

Thats the only important thing

the jury is still out on science.

by **WL_southerner** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:31 am

at the begining of the first super continet ( gowana ) the air was carbon

by **BOREDGIRL** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:55 pm

has anyone watched Al gore's "An inconvenient truth"? It's kind interesting.

by **Stopper** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:58 pm

No. But I've seen Spielberg's A.I., and Jude Law played a robot prostitute in that.

by **WL_southerner** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:14 pm

no val what is he saying

by **vtmarik** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:39 pm

Kid_A wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Kid_A wrote:and the pollution of our already scarce water supply, our top soil eroding, deforestation, the global population growing at an exponential rate and our lack of natural resources to provide for everyone, polluted air.

Actually burning will cause us to have more water. C6H6 (I think that's gasoline) + 15O -> 6CO2 + 3H2O

burning what?

and our water gets more polluted everyday

Yes it does, and every day we spend money cleaning out that water for use by submarines and suburbanites.

And unfortunately, that equation for the combustion of gasoline shows why it's an ineffective way to generate water. Now if there were a way to separate large amounts of Hydrogen from water and burn that then we'd have a continually renewing power source (to a certain extent). Here's hoping that they finally get the picture sooner or later.

by **BOREDGIRL** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:01 pm

it's just really interesting..... deals with global warming. Everyone should watch it even if you don't agree.

by **flashleg8** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:38 pm

Definitions of science, logic and rational though differ from the Einsteinian and Newtonian school of thought to modern quantum particle physics. Would Socrates or Plato be able to reconcile themselves with the abstract thought processes involved in the complex mathematics of cutting edge chaos theory? Does this introduce an apparently paradoxical attitude to the nature of the finite universe and the concept of Id – “the super ego”?

But if you had to, just had to...would it be R2D2 or C3P0?

by **Balsiefen** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:41 pm

vtmarik wrote:And unfortunately, that equation for the combustion of gasoline shows why it's an ineffective way to generate water. Now if there were a way to separate large amounts of Hydrogen from water and burn that then we'd have a continually renewing power source (to a certain extent). Here's hoping that they finally get the picture sooner or later.

heavy water, but the process has a tendency to explode

by **unriggable** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:04 pm

Anybody else take quantum mechanics and feel like pulling hair out of your head afterwards? It's the worst stuff ever...

by **heavycola** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:35 pm

unriggable wrote:Anybody else take quantum mechanics and feel like pulling hair out of your head afterwards? It's the worst stuff ever...

I have just been reading about it in a book by roger penrose... i'm a layman and it is blowing my tiny mind, which is weird because i understand about 10% of it. Dug the cat, though. How people can understand quantum theory and live like normal people, i.e not walk through walls or just go mad with the incredible strangeness of it, is beyond me.

by **flashleg8** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:42 pm

heavycola wrote:
unriggable wrote:Anybody else take quantum mechanics and feel like pulling hair out of your head afterwards? It's the worst stuff ever...

I have just been reading about it in a book by roger penrose... i'm a layman and it is blowing my tiny mind, which is weird because i understand about 10% of it. Dug the cat, though. How people can understand quantum theory and live like normal people, i.e not walk through walls or just go mad with the incredible strangeness of it, is beyond me.

Schrödinger's cat? That is cool.

by **Guiscard** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:42 pm

Stopper wrote:
Guiscard wrote:Richard and Judy on Wednesday

You know, I think your posts are amongst the better on here, but sentimentalism cannot get in the way of what needs to be said.

Hang Your Head In Shame.

What can i say?!? Its a teatime treat!

by **Kid_A** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:01 pm

Stopper wrote:No. But I've seen Spielberg's A.I., and Jude Law played a robot prostitute in that.

(the guy who did the story board for A.I. is in my kitchen as I type this. Isn't that funny)

by **Guiscard** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:29 pm

Kid_A wrote:
Stopper wrote:No. But I've seen Spielberg's A.I., and Jude Law played a robot prostitute in that.

(the guy who did the story board for A.I. is in my kitchen as I type this. Isn't that funny)

Ask him why he didn't try and make them make it a better film...

by **unriggable** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:37 pm

flashleg8 wrote:
heavycola wrote:
unriggable wrote:Anybody else take quantum mechanics and feel like pulling hair out of your head afterwards? It's the worst stuff ever...

I have just been reading about it in a book by roger penrose... i'm a layman and it is blowing my tiny mind, which is weird because i understand about 10% of it. Dug the cat, though. How people can understand quantum theory and live like normal people, i.e not walk through walls or just go mad with the incredible strangeness of it, is beyond me.

Schrödinger's cat? That is cool.

That was the worst. Until we find ouot what it is, it HAS to be alive and dead at the same moment.

by **MeDeFe** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:47 pm

flashleg8 wrote:But if you had to, just had to...would it be R2D2 or C3P0?

speaking of R2D2, how would it feel to jerk off with that robotic hand Anakin got? I never saw episode3/movie6 but wasn't there a sort of "temporal separation to work out our differences" or something like that?

by **Backglass** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:30 pm

Kid_A wrote:
Stopper wrote:No. But I've seen Spielberg's A.I., and Jude Law played a robot prostitute in that.

(the guy who did the story board for A.I. is in my kitchen as I type this. Isn't that funny)

I for one, thought it was a good movie...and kinda creepy at times.

by **heavycola** on Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:26 am

unriggable wrote:
flashleg8 wrote:
heavycola wrote:
unriggable wrote:Anybody else take quantum mechanics and feel like pulling hair out of your head afterwards? It's the worst stuff ever...

I have just been reading about it in a book by roger penrose... i'm a layman and it is blowing my tiny mind, which is weird because i understand about 10% of it. Dug the cat, though. How people can understand quantum theory and live like normal people, i.e not walk through walls or just go mad with the incredible strangeness of it, is beyond me.

Schrödinger's cat? That is cool.

That was the worst. Until we find ouot what it is, it HAS to be alive and dead at the same moment.

See? WTF? If the cat's wavefunction collapse doesn't happen until it has been observed (or 'measured') then does this mean the world only functions the way it does because we are here to see it?
i tell you man, this is skirting the shores of insanity

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