Backglass wrote:CrazyAnglican wrote:It's a personal choice to fast or not.
I think it's wonderful that people are helping the poor. But I also think it's a bit disingenuous when people choose some petty vice to give up for a few days, give some coins to the poor and then feel good about themselves for the rest of the year. I don't see anyone
giving up food, heat or shelter for lent.
Can't disagree with that except, I thought fasting is giving up food, isn't it?
Backglass wrote:I wish that people could just forgo the rituals and just help the poor all year round. THAT would be something.
It seemed like you said before the bible is a bad thing. Now you're pretty much quoting some of Jesus' speeches to the religious people all through the new part?
Matthew 5:42-44 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society wrote:42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Love for Enemies
43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Matthew 7:12 (New American Standard Bible)
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Copyright © 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation wrote:12"In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
He talks about good people doing good things comparing them to trees and bushes. Fruit trees have fruit and you don't get grapes from thorn bushes because they just have thorns, figs don't come from thistles. I guess the people he's talking to don't eat raspberries but makes sense mostly.
Then same book further down, he even flat out warns Christian types, there's going to be people that will come to him for a pat on the back and he'll tell them off.
Matthew 7:21-23 wrote:21"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
So yeah, I agree with what you're saying there Backglass.
That's pretty much the theme of the bible, doing the right thing and helping out those that need it instead of putting on a show. I'm consistantly suprised by people and our natural tendancy to be religious. It sure is good for a laugh though.