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Postby Sammy gags on Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:48 pm

We're all hypocrites! :lol:
...so if I say that I am a hypocrite & say that nobody else does what does that make me?
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Postby flashleg8 on Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:33 pm

jay_a2j wrote: Now EU vs China, that is a good possibility.


More like U.S.A. vs China.

China want Taiwan back (they have never recognised its independence, since the Nationalist Chinese Government fled their after Communist forces took control of the country). As you might know Taiwan is heavily backed by the U.S.A and they have stated previously that they would resist Chinese efforts to reoccupy the island with force.

Found this quote published in the FT July 14 2005

[China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the US if it is attacked by Washington during a confrontation over Taiwan, a Chinese general said on Thursday.

“If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,” said General Zhu Chenghu.

Gen Zhu was speaking at a function for foreign journalists organised, in part, by the Chinese government. He added that China's definition of its territory included warships and aircraft.

“If the Americans are determined to interfere [then] we will be determined to respond,” said Gen Zhu, who is also a professor at China's National Defence University.

“We . . . will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian. Of course the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds . . . of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese.”

Gen Zhu is a self-acknowledged “hawk” who has warned that China could strike the US with long-range missiles. But his threat to use nuclear weapons in a conflict over Taiwan is the most specific by a senior Chinese official in nearly a decade.]
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:23 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Anyway Russia has more nuclear weapons that the US and that's a fact. Check this for proof:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_and_USSR_nuclear_stockpiles.svg
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That's because during the Reagan years the US and Soviet Union had a non-profilation agreement. However while the US was dismantling their nukes Russia wasn't (as they had agreed to do). All of this is moot anyways. There will be no war involving US vs. Europe or US vs. Russia. Now EU vs China, that is a good possibility.


Errr no you are wrong on that one. The first agreement to start dismantling nuclear weapons was in 1991 if I am not wrong...something called START. As far as I remember it was the Americans who didn't want to reduce their stockpile when the Russians tried to find an agreement for further reductions. I think that happened in 2001. Anyway the point is that Russia has more nuclear warheads than the US while Jamie thinks the US has more than all the countries in the world put together.

Of course I agree that there will be no Russia vs US war as I stated earlier. However it is much more improbable that there will be an EU v China war. *lol* How did you think of that? The EU is an economic force but militarily it is divided, it's not a military entity yet, nor is it a global player militarily. Apart from that they would never fight China. It's much more probable that the US will have tensions with China in the very near future. The reason: Taiwan.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:37 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Anyway Russia has more nuclear weapons that the US and that's a fact. Check this for proof:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_and_USSR_nuclear_stockpiles.svg
[/url]



That's because during the Reagan years the US and Soviet Union had a non-profilation agreement. However while the US was dismantling their nukes Russia wasn't (as they had agreed to do). All of this is moot anyways. There will be no war involving US vs. Europe or US vs. Russia. Now EU vs China, that is a good possibility.


Errr no you are wrong on that one. The first agreement to start dismantling nuclear weapons was in 1991 if I am not wrong...something called START. As far as I remember it was the Americans who didn't want to reduce their stockpile when the Russians tried to find an agreement for further reductions. I think that happened in 2001. Anyway the point is that Russia has more nuclear warheads than the US while Jamie thinks the US has more than all the countries in the world put together.

Of course I agree that there will be no Russia vs US war as I stated earlier. However it is much more improbable that there will be an EU v China war. *lol* How did you think of that? The EU is an economic force but militarily it is divided, it's not a military entity yet, nor is it a global player militarily. Apart from that they would never fight China. It's much more probable that the US will have tensions with China in the very near future. The reason: Taiwan.



The EU will have a united military. They will also be a dominant power in the world...if not THE dominant power. The US will not exist. China will destroy Russia and meet the armies of the EU in the battle of Armageddon. I know very few people here at CC give Bible prophecy its dues..... but its never been wrong yet.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:43 pm

jay_a2j wrote:The EU will have a united military. They will also be a dominant power in the world...if not THE dominant power. The US will not exist. China will destroy Russia and meet the armies of the EU in the battle of Armageddon. I know very few people here at CC give Bible prophecy its dues..... but its never been wrong yet.


Hehe. Now I am sure you are joking. :lol:
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Postby Titanic on Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:12 pm

EU and China would be a very interesting war. Make a new topic, and we could discuss what would happen :D

USA vs China is most probable - reasons - Taiwan, or China becoming economically closer with EU and screwing over USA, and effectively blackmailing USA. EU is split on which side to enter (UK will probably go USA, too strong a connection/relationship and history), but later on in the war EU will have to join in, no 2 ways.
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Postby The1exile on Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:14 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:The EU will have a united military. They will also be a dominant power in the world...if not THE dominant power. The US will not exist. China will destroy Russia and meet the armies of the EU in the battle of Armageddon. I know very few people here at CC give Bible prophecy its dues..... but its never been wrong yet.


Hehe. Now I am sure you are joking. :lol:


Unfortunately, given jay's reputation, he's probably not...
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Postby Backglass on Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:31 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:The EU will have a united military. They will also be a dominant power in the world...if not THE dominant power. The US will not exist. China will destroy Russia and meet the armies of the EU in the battle of Armageddon. I know very few people here at CC give Bible prophecy its dues..... but its never been wrong yet.


Hehe. Now I am sure you are joking. :lol:


His smug winky's aside, he's very serious about his claims of war and claims of perfection regarding biblical fortune telling.

He is extremely deluded by superstition & lore.
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Postby flashleg8 on Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:41 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
The EU will have a united military. They will also be a dominant power in the world...if not THE dominant power. The US will not exist. China will destroy Russia and meet the armies of the EU in the battle of Armageddon. I know very few people here at CC give Bible prophecy its dues..... but its never been wrong yet.


Assuming you really believe this - who are good guys (ie on your God's side) and who are baddies (Satans team)?
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Postby Jesse, Bad Boy on Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:42 pm

flashleg8 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
The EU will have a united military. They will also be a dominant power in the world...if not THE dominant power. The US will not exist. China will destroy Russia and meet the armies of the EU in the battle of Armageddon. I know very few people here at CC give Bible prophecy its dues..... but its never been wrong yet.


Assuming you really believe this - who are good guys (ie on your God's side) and who are baddies (Satans team)?


The side that has a better PR group, of course.
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Postby unriggable on Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:22 pm

I am guessing that unless we go through a re-vamp, the US will fall within the next 100 years.
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Postby areon on Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:11 pm

jay_a2j wrote:That's because during the Reagan years the US and Soviet Union had a non-profilation agreement. However while the US was dismantling their nukes Russia wasn't (as they had agreed to do). All of this is moot anyways. There will be no war involving US vs. Europe or US vs. Russia. Now EU vs China, that is a good possibility.


Right star wars and all the other massive build-ups Reagan did to bankrupt the USSR instead of facilitating a transition never happened.
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Postby jay_a2j on Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:03 am

flashleg8 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
The EU will have a united military. They will also be a dominant power in the world...if not THE dominant power. The US will not exist. China will destroy Russia and meet the armies of the EU in the battle of Armageddon. I know very few people here at CC give Bible prophecy its dues..... but its never been wrong yet.


Assuming you really believe this - who are good guys (ie on your God's side) and who are baddies (Satans team)?



Neither of them will be on Gods side. As a matter of fact, as these armies are waring against each other in the land called Meggetto, Jesus will descend. At which time both armies will direct their weapons at Jesus and those with Him.
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Postby heavycola on Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:31 am

jay_a2j wrote:
flashleg8 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
The EU will have a united military. They will also be a dominant power in the world...if not THE dominant power. The US will not exist. China will destroy Russia and meet the armies of the EU in the battle of Armageddon. I know very few people here at CC give Bible prophecy its dues..... but its never been wrong yet.


Assuming you really believe this - who are good guys (ie on your God's side) and who are baddies (Satans team)?



Neither of them will be on Gods side. As a matter of fact, as these armies are waring against each other in the land called Meggetto, Jesus will descend. At which time both armies will direct their weapons at Jesus and those with Him.


Is this harmless fantasy, or should the world be worried that so many fundamentalists believe this stuff?
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Postby MeDeFe on Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:42 am

Such is always the fate of peacemakers. "Hey guys. You know you don't HAVE to fight. Can't you just make a compromise?" BANG! and back to business as usual.
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