Lonous wrote:jimboston wrote:Produce a Palestinian version of Nelson Mandela… then we can talk.
....dude. You are either being dense, or you are *so* close to getting it, I can't figure out which.
There already was a Palestinian version, his name was Yasser Arafat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasser_ArafatHe was being very successful, using diplomacy and peaceful tactics to change hearts and minds.
That was exactly the reason why Israel funded the start of Hamas, in an attempt to divide the Palestinians and persuade them to be violent.
That comparison is SO invalid: Yasser Arafat is not like Nelson Mandela. Mandela was in prison for YEARS, Arafat NOT. PLO, the organization founded by Arafat carried out several violent attacks against Israeli civilians, including the attack at the airport and the killing at the Munich Olympics in 1972. I am not aware of any similar violent acts killing that many white (opponent) civilians in South Africa. Arafat took LOTS of money to live in luxury.
He basically STOLE from the Palestinian people. (same source):
in 2003, a team of American accountants—hired by Arafat's own finance ministry—began examining Arafat's finances. In its conclusions, the team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the U.S. and the Cayman Islands. The head of the investigation stated that "although the money for the portfolio came from public funds like Palestinian taxes, virtually none of it was used for the Palestinian people; it was all controlled by Arafat. And none of these dealings were made public."[145] An investigation conducted by the General Accounting Office reported that Arafat and the PLO held over $10 billion in assets even at the time when he was publicly claiming bankruptcy.[146]
I am not aware of any such allegations against Mandela.
and, again saxi has spun his "facts" into another false narrative (LIES):
In 1987, after the outbreak of the First Intifada against Israel, Hamas was founded by Palestinian imam and activist Ahmed Yassin. It emerged out of his Mujama al-Islamiya (Islamic Centre), which had been established in Gaza in 1973 as an Islamic charity involved with the Egypt-based Muslim Brotherhood.
from Wikipedia
