Woman kicked to death 'for being a goth' name these scum!

[william18]

I don't think hate crimes aren't nearly as bad in europe compared to North America. This is cased as first degree murder right

well i think it is our gun laws too that keeps it down, if guns were legalised in the UK there would literally be chaos, much worse than america i think

Same in Canada but people still get them illegaly. U.S. is bad though. Bloods and Crips walking around with Glocks doing drive by's. ( srry to anyone who seems this is stereotypical, but it's true).

[brooksieb]

i find it rather unlikely brooksie that these kids when finding out how long they will likely be heading to prison for will react with excitement over the ability to watch sky sports.

I dont really have a problem with putting the names out, simply that shaming is in some capacity adequate or effective in doing something in this situation or in situations like it.

well there streetrats, they probably have nothing but a piss encrusted matress at their house

i question whether or not you understand what your are implying with all of this. I do think there is a bit of a potential to argue people may prefer jail, but certainly not in this context.

well i dont really mean it in that way, but they don't care about going to jail, the law system is failing.

[jimboston]

Same in Canada but people still get them illegaly. U.S. is bad though. Bloods and Crips walking around with Glocks doing drive by's. ( srry to anyone who seems this is stereotypical, but it's true).

I'm getting my Glock and heading North!



Not true everywhere... but the major cites can be tough.

[william18]

Same in Canada but people still get them illegaly. U.S. is bad though. Bloods and Crips walking around with Glocks doing drive by's. ( srry to anyone who seems this is stereotypical, but it's true).

I'm getting my Glock and heading North!



Not true everywhere... but the major cites can be tough.

Especially New York and California. Drug dealers get killed alot.

[brooksieb]

I don't think hate crimes aren't nearly as bad in europe compared to North America. This is cased as first degree murder right

well i think it is our gun laws too that keeps it down, if guns were legalised in the UK there would literally be chaos, much worse than america i think

Same in Canada but people still get them illegaly. U.S. is bad though. Bloods and Crips walking around with Glocks doing drive by's. ( srry to anyone who seems this is stereotypical, but it's true).

but europe is much worse hate crime wise, especially in eastern europe, look if you're black in poland you get beaten up really badly, look at the balkans it is still going on and all this hate crime is pretty much legalised or very close to being legalised, but i think in some parts of N. America it's bad. but the united kingdom's hate crime is on the rise, but not as bad as N. America

[william18]

I don't think hate crimes aren't nearly as bad in europe compared to North America. This is cased as first degree murder right

well i think it is our gun laws too that keeps it down, if guns were legalised in the UK there would literally be chaos, much worse than america i think

Same in Canada but people still get them illegaly. U.S. is bad though. Bloods and Crips walking around with Glocks doing drive by's. ( srry to anyone who seems this is stereotypical, but it's true).

but europe is much worse hate crime wise, especially in eastern europe, look if you're black in poland you get beaten up really badly, look at the balkans it is still going on and all this hate crime is pretty much legalised or very close to being legalised, but i think in some parts of N. America it's bad. but the united kingdom's hate crime is on the rise, but not as bad as N. America

In the U.S. people are scared to come out at night alone. Drive by shooting's have killed hundreds of people. The kkk is hunting down clored people. Segregation is still at large. Gang wars are plaging the coastal major cities. You'll get mugged because people think it's fun. That's why the gun laws are legal in the U.S. because they need the protection. But then the whole cycle starts again.

[brooksieb]

I don't think hate crimes aren't nearly as bad in europe compared to North America. This is cased as first degree murder right

well i think it is our gun laws too that keeps it down, if guns were legalised in the UK there would literally be chaos, much worse than america i think

Same in Canada but people still get them illegaly. U.S. is bad though. Bloods and Crips walking around with Glocks doing drive by's. ( srry to anyone who seems this is stereotypical, but it's true).

but europe is much worse hate crime wise, especially in eastern europe, look if you're black in poland you get beaten up really badly, look at the balkans it is still going on and all this hate crime is pretty much legalised or very close to being legalised, but i think in some parts of N. America it's bad. but the united kingdom's hate crime is on the rise, but not as bad as N. America

In the U.S. people are scared to come out at night alone. Drive by shooting's have killed hundreds of people. The kkk is hunting down clored people. Segregation is still at large. Gang wars are plaging the coastal major cities. You'll get mugged because people think it's fun. That's why the gun laws are legal in the U.S. because they need the protection. But then the whole cycle starts again.

almost the same thing in england some kids can't move a few blocks over fears of being beaten up badly or killed so there lives are being reduced to only a few blocks of buildings, or a estate.

[Colossus]

william, where are your statistics? I live in one of the most violent cities in the us, and people are still not, by and large, afraid to leave their houses.

[william18]

william, where are your statistics? I live in one of the most violent cities in the us, and people are still not, by and large, afraid to leave their houses.

There are different types of violences. There's physical abuse and then there's gun violence. What type does philly mostly have.

[Colossus]

yes.

if there's a kind of violence, philly has it, william. there's lots of gang violence in philly, but in my experience, it doesn't mean that everyone is huddled in their homes in fear. I'll be the first to admit that it's very bad, but I think you're painting an uglier picture than reality.

[Colossus]

For example, where is this kkk hunting going on? Where is there segregation at large? I'll give you the gang wars and people getting mugged sometimes for no other reason than "it's fun", but you're making the US sound like some kind of futuristic post-apocalyptic society. Law and order is by far the rule here.

[william18]

yes.

if there's a kind of violence, philly has it, william. there's lots of gang violence in philly, but in my experience, it doesn't mean that everyone is huddled in their homes in fear. I'll be the first to admit that it's very bad, but I think you're painting an uglier picture than reality.

Im not saying everyone or their huddled up in their houses. Im just saying that people will have extreme paranoia and anxiaty. Thats not good. Plus it depands if you live in the good are's of the city or the bad ones. Akwardly the bad parts have the best restaurents.

[Colossus]

Not in philly. The best restaurants in philly are in the gayborhood. Incidentally, it also has pretty much the lowest crime rate.

[william18]

For example, where is this kkk hunting going on? Where is there segregation at large? I'll give you the gang wars and people getting mugged sometimes for no other reason than "it's fun", but you're making the US sound like some kind of futuristic post-apocalyptic society. Law and order is by far the rule here.

Im not saying it's all that bad but some parts may seem like a post-apocalyptic society. Ghetto's can be an example of segragation. U.S. society overall is pretty safe, but some area's are like a mini hunting ground.

[william18]

Not in philly. The best restaurants in philly are in the gayborhood. Incidentally, it also has pretty much the lowest crime rate.

Lol gayborhood.

[MeDeFe]

Can you say "death threats for relatives of puppy-throwing marine"? I recall reading a post mentioning that in the other thread, this is on an entirely different level, if throwing a dead puppy off a cliff gets your parents a death threat, what will your cousin get if you murder a person?

[Neoteny]

Not in philly. The best restaurants in philly are in the gayborhood. Incidentally, it also has pretty much the lowest crime rate.

Lol gayborhood.

I lol'd too...

[Neoteny]

In the U.S. people are scared to come out at night alone. Drive by shooting's have killed hundreds of people. The kkk is hunting down clored people. Segregation is still at large. Gang wars are plaging the coastal major cities. You'll get mugged because people think it's fun. That's why the gun laws are legal in the U.S. because they need the protection. But then the whole cycle starts again.

Also, I imagine we have had more people die in recent years in drive-by shootings than there are people in the KKK. I have no idea where I might get statistics on that, but it's just a thought.

[gdeangel]

Naming? No. Public Beheading.

Not so much for the teens, but their parents.

[Bavarian Raven]

...they should be sterilized, removed from the human gene pool for the benefit of the human population...simple as that like all their type of scum...

[Grooveman2007]

The kkk is hunting down colored people. Segregation is still at large.

What year do you think it is, 1928?

[Hitman079]

may they burn in Hell and may Hell exist for their actions.

[Jenos Ridan]

This is one of those instances where having corporal punishment seems like it might be a good idea. I think these thugs should have the ever-loving shit kicked out of THEM. Then lock them up. First shit-kicking, then lock-up. Anything less is them getting off light. And I think their names should be made public. The public has a right to know identities of people who commit such horrendous acts. This is all assuming they're ultimately proven guilty of course, and should all occur after a guilty verdict is pronounced. The non-publishing of their names before they're found guilty of anything makes total sense to me.

There have been times' I'll admit, were I've thought a theft should be publically flogged. In this case, I agree, let's have those miserable thugs get taken out in the middle of a ballpark, give any volunteers a free two-by-four and let'um have it. Then drag their sorry butts to prison and let the old hands have at them too .

[radiojake]

Am I the only one who finds that whole 'eye for an eye' thing slightly disturbing?

It's like all those pro-life Christians who will be out picketing when someone is getting executed by lethal injection and they're protesting that the punishment isn't a something more gruesome or painful.


Clearly these kids are fucked up and I'm disturbed about the story, but the whole notion that you guys are suggesting that it would be just or a good thing to beat the f*ck out of them (as a public spectacle no less) is just as disturbing.

If you want these kind of violent crimes removed from society, you can't expect to give out the same kind of violence from your end (no matter how 'justified' you claim it to be) and not find the whole ugly cycle manifest in some other segment of society. (That's why the whole idea of the police is a fucked up idea, can't use violent to remove violence - but that's another topic, as police aren't trying to remove violence at all)

In closing, anyone suggesting to belt the life out of these perpetrators are no closer to solving anything. Infact it's probably just an excuse for you to let out with your violent inclinations that you have kept bottled up.

[radiojake]

There have been times' I'll admit, were I've thought a theft should be publically flogged.

Are you kidding me? What kind of theft are you talking about here? Stealing from a chain supermarket or stealing something from someone's house?