Should Whale Hunting Be Banned?

[Wayne Kerstain]

I actually just got out of a class that talks about this sort of shyte. Go figure.

Yup, I figure you're a pending dropout


Now, chimps dont care about us, neither do whales...f*ck em all. What does it matter of they die?

f*ck em, they're fresh bubblegum as far as I'm concerned.

[lozzini]

lol, we have an eco activist here then... or not

[radiojake]

Now, chimps dont care about us, neither do whales...f*ck em all. What does it matter of they die?

f*ck em, they're fresh bubblegum as far as I'm concerned.

You're a dickhead

[Makari]

As are you p_o


Ban whale hunting though.

[Sir. Ricco]

No, the whales must DIE!!!

[Iliad]

Wayne you're a complete moron and it is because of you lazy shits taht the Earth is in such deep shit now

[Gypsys Kiss]

I actually just got out of a class that talks about this sort of shyte. Go figure.

Yup, I figure you're a pending dropout


Now, chimps dont care about us, neither do whales...f*ck em all. What does it matter of they die?

f*ck em, they're fresh bubblegum as far as I'm concerned.

and I know you dont care about me and I dont care about you. So would you mind if I fired a harpoon up your backside.

[2dimes]

I say commercialized hunting of whales like the Japanese and Norweigans do is (I believe) illegal.

So what's the proposal, "reelly ban" it, extra ban?

[Gypsys Kiss]

I say commercialized hunting of whales like the Japanese and Norweigans do is (I believe) illegal.

So what's the proposal, "reelly ban" it, extra ban?

Every time a boat is caught whaling, sink it. Getting the crew of first will be optional.

[2dimes]

Ok, get to work then.

[JACKAZZTJM]

I always bang fat chicks

[unriggable]

I always bang fat chicks

Because nobody else wants it, right?

[spurgistan]

I say commercialized hunting of whales like the Japanese and Norweigans do is (I believe) illegal.

So what's the proposal, "reelly ban" it, extra ban?

Every time a boat is caught whaling, sink it. Getting the crew of first will be optional.

Like these ballsy dudes?

Badasses.

[Sir. Ricco]

The Whales must die!

Am I helping any?

[suggs]

Bollocks to that.

From your arguement, I could argue then, that I was given an urge to burn down buildings, piss in peoples drinking water and fart on old paraplegic mens heads for a laugh....does this mean I am bad, since I'm following my instincts?

"Fart on old paraplegic mens heads for a laugh" PURE GENIUS.

[krusher]

Whales are not that endangerd only some specific species or sub species of whales are, no one knows for sure how many whales there are or not (est. say its close to the million(s) in all) Whales eat tons of fish everyday, enough fish to feed a small continent full of people. it's not as if they are just killing the whales for fun, they use every part of the whale (mainly for food) and also use the whale for many scientific studies. Killing a whale will not only feed dozens of people but they will also feed dozens of other peoples who will eat the fish that the whale was supposed to eat... so the more carnivores we take out the more of their prey we have for our self, this means price of food will decrese, making every other product decrease, and also feeding millions of people everyday who otherwise would of died of hunger or starvation... so before you guys start saying that poaching is bad because it hurts the animals think about all the people who die because of lack of food and think about how many whales have killed swimers, scubadivers and sailors... I remember just a few years ago a Trained killer whale in Florida on Miami Sequarium (A famous water park in Florida) killed and ate a little girl who came too close to it. Do you really think if you were in the ocean alone and the whale was hungry he would think twice before attacking, killing and eating you?

[Neutrino]

Whales are not that endangerd only some specific species or sub species of whales are, no one knows for sure how many whales there are or not (est. say its close to the million(s) in all) Whales eat tons of fish everyday, enough fish to feed a small continent full of people. it's not as if they are just killing the whales for fun, they use every part of the whale (mainly for food) and also use the whale for many scientific studies. Killing a whale will not only feed dozens of people but they will also feed dozens of other peoples who will eat the fish that the whale was supposed to eat... so the more carnivores we take out the more of their prey we have for our self, this means price of food will decrese, making every other product decrease, and also feeding millions of people everyday who otherwise would of died of hunger or starvation... so before you guys start saying that poaching is bad because it hurts the animals think about all the people who die because of lack of food and think about how many whales have killed swimers, scubadivers and sailors... I remember just a few years ago a Trained killer whale in Florida on Miami Sequarium (A famous water park in Florida) killed and ate a little girl who came too close to it. Do you really think if you were in the ocean alone and the whale was hungry he would think twice before attacking, killing and eating you?

Attack of the Continental Whales!

Important information to read before posting again: humanity already produces more than enough food to feed itself. 1.5 times what it needs, but that was a while ago and the figure's probably outdated now. I don't think stealing a few thousand tons/day of fish off the whales would make a great difference. Still, there is no reason for anyone to starve. The reason people do starve is because large volumes of wheat are left to rot to keep the wheat prices down. It would cost far too much to actually ship it over to where it's needed, so no-one ever ends up using it. That's humanity for you.

[unriggable]

Krusher, it doesn't work that simply. When a whale dies, it's rotting carcass sinks to the bottom of the ocean and feeds scavengers at the bottom of the food chain. Think of the entire food chain as a card game of war, where each number can eat all smaller ones and the 2 can eat an ace. The whales are at the top, being aces. Without aces there are no 2's, without 2's there are no 3's, etc., and the whole food chain falls apart.

Not to mention that the largest whales, like blue whales, eat krill, which have no nutritional value for humans. As for your 'how many whales have killed humans', I'd put the number in the dozens, with the majority being in aquariums. Besides, like any commercial fish, the whale would be bought and sold, not shipped to places like Congo and Zimbabwe to feed starving refugees; so it would not solve the starvation problem either.

Really, it would be sad to see the whale go just because of our gluttonous habits. We've already overfished many species to near extinction (out of the eleven large whale species, seven are endangered), some past that point.

[lozzini]

the point about proving 1.5 times enought food is outdated.. at this moment in time we do grow/catch enought food for the population but it is estimated that in 10 years time there will be a crossover point where the is a higher population thatn food availbale

nothing is ever that simple lol

[radiojake]

Whales are not that endangerd only some specific species or sub species of whales are, no one knows for sure how many whales there are or not (est. say its close to the million(s) in all) Whales eat tons of fish everyday, enough fish to feed a small continent full of people. it's not as if they are just killing the whales for fun, they use every part of the whale (mainly for food) and also use the whale for many scientific studies. Killing a whale will not only feed dozens of people but they will also feed dozens of other peoples who will eat the fish that the whale was supposed to eat... so the more carnivores we take out the more of their prey we have for our self, this means price of food will decrese, making every other product decrease, and also feeding millions of people everyday who otherwise would of died of hunger or starvation... so before you guys start saying that poaching is bad because it hurts the animals think about all the people who die because of lack of food and think about how many whales have killed swimers, scubadivers and sailors... I remember just a few years ago a Trained killer whale in Florida on Miami Sequarium (A famous water park in Florida) killed and ate a little girl who came too close to it. Do you really think if you were in the ocean alone and the whale was hungry he would think twice before attacking, killing and eating you?

You pretty much have no clue about anything, really.

If you were truly worried about worldwide starvation, you would go vegetarian and convince all of your friends too.

Also the amount of swimers, scubadivers and sailors killed by whales??? Minimal. Even then this point is invalid, if you are in the ocean, you are in marine territory. You can't complain about getting attacked by ocean wildlife while you are in the ocean.

The more carnivores we take out the more food we have for ourselves?? That's right, I forgot human's were the most important animals on this planet, I don't know why I've never had similiar thoughts to this. </sarcasm>

Your entire post was covered with the stench of ignorance

[DaGip]

I actually just got out of a class that talks about this sort of shyte. Go figure.

Yes, if chimps figured out how to destroy humanity (or did so inadvertantly) they might. But we humans have the ability to create a social system based on morality. The fact that we alone among animals have the ability to judge morality means that we are to be valued above animals, but if we don't make moral judgments about the rights of animals, then, what good is that ability? There is a question as to whether human pleasure is valued at more than animal pain, and if so, to what degree we discount animal pain to increase human pleasure (otherwise, meat is obviously a no-go) The whole thing is somewhat messy, maybe this will all resolve itself before we have exams.

So obviously, the guy posting above values simple human pleasures (such as chewing gum) over extreme animal pain (shooting exploding harpoons into rather defenseless whales) Fair enough, it's your moral system, I'm in no place to judge, but I'm rather glad I don't know you.

I once saw on TV this kid fall into the gorilla exhibit. The kid was knocked out and broke some bones I think. And the gorillas treated him well and with dignity...could that be considered a form of moral code?

And when humans are in peril in the ocean, it has been documented that dolphins come to save them from drowning or from sharks. Is this morality at work?

We as humans just have opposable thumbs in which we can mold and model the universe around us, it doesn't mean we hold the lamp of morality amidst the animal kingdoms. If you look at how we treat the animals and plants and the environment on this planet, I would say our moral character is not a very good one.

I do not support whale hunting of any sort, as I view the whales and dolphins as being equal and the indigenious tribes and Norses of the world will just have to stop the killing. There are lots of things we used to do in the past that just isn't done anymore...we have evolved from those primitive ways of conduct and have excluded its significance from our culture.

Like liberty and the Constitution. Meaningless words on a piece of paper. Just get rid of the archaic nuance. What need is there for such frivilous freedoms and prusuits of happiness?

Same thing with whale hunting, we don't need it anymore. The necessity has evolved into other dimensions of industry that is far removed from the archaic and cruel industry of whale hunting.

I watched Anthony Bordaine sit on the dirty Inuit kitchen floor gnawing on whale scrotum and blubber...his face looked like a freakin' vampire, and his eyes gleamed with an utter possession of which I could only explain as demonic. I can't help to think that if there is a Hell, Anthony Bordaine will be on the party bus! I like his show, but eating raw whale flesh from the kitchen floor that some huskey just pissed and shit on is a bit way out there for me.

Killing whales just seems wrong to me, why do we need to control the whale population? Can't nature do that herself? I think nature needs to control the human population way before she starts considering whales, comprende?

Part of my love for Mysticetes and Denticetes stems from when I was in Hawaii. I would play my didjereedu and dolphins would show up, or Humpback whales would come in close to the wharf. At that time I promised myself that when I die, I am coming back as a Humpback whale...(I think I just convinced the majority of this room to become Whale Hunters, great! )

[lozzini]

if nature can control whale population then surely she should start controlling our population as we start to get too big and killing her?

[unriggable]

if nature can control whale population then surely she should start controlling our population as we start to get too big and killing her?

If only...its not like nature is a thing with a conscious that can make decisions through its many animals. It's a disorganized system that falls apart with the slightest fiddling.

[lozzini]

then therefor we should stop fiddling... making out carbon footprint smaller... not wrecking the ozone layer... not killing whales

[unriggable]

then therefor we should stop fiddling... making out carbon footprint smaller... not wrecking the ozone layer... not killing whales

The honest and thoughtful corporations of America don't want that. That costs money, money they obviously can't afford.