Third world war.

[Knight of Orient]

I was thinkin soviet as well, only that they come into the mid east and go up against us. then countries will join both sides. we retreat to Israel, or are just pushed back ti Israel, and we have armageddon

[got tonkaed]

although you cant discount the amount of destructive capability the world has to royally ruin it self over and over, its kinda hard to believe that you can really ever drag down china, or eventually india for that matter. A billion people has a bit of staying power.

[Knight of Orient]

all of the level headed nations should secretly gather together and execute coverte missions in destroying all nukes around the world

[Guiscard]

Hmmmm.

Now, I will share with you my opinion of what is to come.

The Mayan calendar finishes in 2012....stops.....just like that. Some cynical peo[ple may think it is because they ran out of paper.....oh no no. They knew something.

You mean Mesoamerican Long Count. The Mayans had a lot of calenders. It doesn't stop, anyway. It just begins a new 394 year period. They inscribed dates past 2012, and there is no evidence whatsoever of any negative connotation. More a celebration. Nothing important happened at the end of the last cycle either.

('Little sissy guissy gay gay blah blah' in three...two...)

[d.gishman]

backon track it would depend on where countries allegience laid...

u could assume...us, canada, uk aus would all go in together...

it would be against, taliban, iraq, nth korea...but where would

germany, japan, russia lay there forces

I doubt north korea would side with iraq. People are being confused. Iraq is currently an emerging democratic society. You're thinking of insurgents within Iraq. North Korea would definitely go with wherever China goes. Japan would probably side with the US. Germany would probably side with the UK. Russia is a little sketchy

[-ShadySoul-]

---why did i include Cuba is the list? Easy, because during the Cold war, USSR supplied Cuba with a lot of warfare technology, and unlike all the other countries, Cuba's a bombs never went "missing"

MTG- China's economy would not crush because they happen to go worldwide. Their plastic animals are every where, From USA's toy shops, to Australian military forces. They are the most advanced country at the moment, which saddens me greatly. About you alliances, sure USA and Europe would group together ( Bush will terrorize them into it ) but Canada? They are out of the picture, Canadians are not a violent nation, and they suck when it comes to warfare. Heck, right now they only have 2 ships patrolling their borders, and they are both over 60 years old! The best way for Canadians to survive would be to go as far up north as possible.
Since we are talking about economical difficulties, right now Russia is supplying half of Europe with natural resources, such as oil and natural gas. If a war is to begin, we would stop the supply, leaving Europe in search of new sources. Of course, this will not crush them, but it would give Russia an upper hand.
If the war is to begin, and China and Russia will make an alliance, then we are all facked! China's booming economy and Russia's advanced warfare ( believe it or not) would end the world as we know it.

PS. Norse....you and your Maya

[ParadiceCity9]

U-S-A, U-S-A!

[DaGip]

Hmmmm.

Now, I will share with you my opinion of what is to come.

The Mayan calendar finishes in 2012....stops.....just like that. Some cynical peo[ple may think it is because they ran out of paper.....oh no no. They knew something.

You mean Mesoamerican Long Count. The Mayans had a lot of calenders. It doesn't stop, anyway. It just begins a new 394 year period. They inscribed dates past 2012, and there is no evidence whatsoever of any negative connotation. More a celebration. Nothing important happened at the end of the last cycle either.

('Little sissy guissy gay gay blah blah' in three...two...)

Mayan calendar stops at 2012 because that is the end of an Mayan cycle. One age ends and another begins...doesn't mean the end of the earth, just the ending of a civilization and emergence into a new one.

Just like Christians use Zodiac symbols to usher in another age of existence. We are currently in the age of Pisces...that is yet disputed when it ends. 2654? 2150? 2064?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius

I believe the Mayans based their calendar on the alignment with the center of the Milky Way. How they were able to do this, I don't know?

You have me quite interested, I will have to do some more research into the subject.

[btownmeggy]

---why did i include Cuba is the list? Easy, because during the Cold war, USSR supplied Cuba with a lot of warfare technology, and unlike all the other countries, Cuba's a bombs never went "missing"

Cuba has no nuclear missiles, and possibly no functional missiles at all. They started building a nuclear power plant in the 70s and never finished it. I think you're greatly overestimating them.

[DaGip]

U-S-A, U-S-A!

Mexico! Mexico!

[-ShadySoul-]

U-S-A, U-S-A!

Mexico! Mexico!

Mexico is the first to blow

[muy_thaiguy]

---why did i include Cuba is the list? Easy, because during the Cold war, USSR supplied Cuba with a lot of warfare technology, and unlike all the other countries, Cuba's a bombs never went "missing"

MTG- China's economy would not crush because they happen to go worldwide. Their plastic animals are every where, From USA's toy shops, to Australian military forces. They are the most advanced country at the moment, which saddens me greatly. About you alliances, sure USA and Europe would group together ( Bush will terrorize them into it ) but Canada? They are out of the picture, Canadians are not a violent nation, and they suck when it comes to warfare. Heck, right now they only have 2 ships patrolling their borders, and they are both over 60 years old! The best way for Canadians to survive would be to go as far up north as possible.
Since we are talking about economical difficulties, right now Russia is supplying half of Europe with natural resources, such as oil and natural gas. If a war is to begin, we would stop the supply, leaving Europe in search of new sources. Of course, this will not crush them, but it would give Russia an upper hand.
If the war is to begin, and China and Russia will make an alliance, then we are all facked! China's booming economy and Russia's advanced warfare ( believe it or not) would end the world as we know it.

PS. Norse....you and your Maya

First off SS, China heavily relies on the US to buy it's stuff, we are it's main "customer" shall we say, who buy most of their stuff. Also, knowing China and it's long history, it is only a matter of time before it falls into another Civil War, which will happen for one reason or another, as it has the past 3000 years. Sure, it may have 200 million middle class people, but an overwhelming majority are still in poverty, well over 1 billion. If anything, Tianemen Square was only the begining (surprisngly, the countless numbers of people that participated wanted more Capitalism in their country). Russia would not be well recieved by many European Nations, because the occupation of numerous countries is still fresh in many people's minds. Also, the US military is STILL considered the best in the world, with the best technology, tactics, and training. China only has the largest, and considered the 2nd best military force, but with Israel and Britain close behind. Russia is a ways down there, not to mention that the US has been moving from China in terms of reliance, etc. Also, Japan, though close to China and North Korea, would join the US and our other allies, as would South Korea.

[comic boy]

---why did i include Cuba is the list? Easy, because during the Cold war, USSR supplied Cuba with a lot of warfare technology, and unlike all the other countries, Cuba's a bombs never went "missing"

MTG- China's economy would not crush because they happen to go worldwide. Their plastic animals are every where, From USA's toy shops, to Australian military forces. They are the most advanced country at the moment, which saddens me greatly. About you alliances, sure USA and Europe would group together ( Bush will terrorize them into it ) but Canada? They are out of the picture, Canadians are not a violent nation, and they suck when it comes to warfare. Heck, right now they only have 2 ships patrolling their borders, and they are both over 60 years old! The best way for Canadians to survive would be to go as far up north as possible.
Since we are talking about economical difficulties, right now Russia is supplying half of Europe with natural resources, such as oil and natural gas. If a war is to begin, we would stop the supply, leaving Europe in search of new sources. Of course, this will not crush them, but it would give Russia an upper hand.
If the war is to begin, and China and Russia will make an alliance, then we are all facked! China's booming economy and Russia's advanced warfare ( believe it or not) would end the world as we know it.

PS. Norse....you and your Maya

First off SS, China heavily relies on the US to buy it's stuff, we are it's main "customer" shall we say, who buy most of their stuff. Also, knowing China and it's long history, it is only a matter of time before it falls into another Civil War, which will happen for one reason or another, as it has the past 3000 years. Sure, it may have 200 million middle class people, but an overwhelming majority are still in poverty, well over 1 billion. If anything, Tianemen Square was only the begining (surprisngly, the countless numbers of people that participated wanted more Capitalism in their country). Russia would not be well recieved by many European Nations, because the occupation of numerous countries is still fresh in many people's minds. Also, the US military is STILL considered the best in the world, with the best technology, tactics, and training. China only has the largest, and considered the 2nd best military force, but with Israel and Britain close behind. Russia is a ways down there, not to mention that the US has been moving from China in terms of reliance, etc. Also, Japan, though close to China and North Korea, would join the US and our other allies, as would South Korea.

No doubt the USA has a huge advantage in technology but I assume the bit about tactics and training is a joke - certainly thats the view of the British military .

[d.gishman]

(Hell China owns a large part of the U.S. Debt, if they call it in, the American economy crashs).

If US had to fight China, I doubt they would actually pay up their debts, so debts wouldn't matter at all in wartime

The world is interconnected economically, so if China called up all of the US debt then they themselves would be screwed

Canada? They are out of the picture, Canadians are not a violent nation, and they suck when it comes to warfare. Heck, right now they only have 2 ships patrolling their borders, and they are both over 60 years old! The best way for Canadians to survive would be to go as far up north as possible.

??? The two ships you are talking about were prior to WWI/Boer, as Canada relied on the British Royal Navy... Canada sucks at warfare?? 1812 (who won is debatable, the battles were pretty much even with the US) Vimy Ridge, Juno Beach,Ortona, liberation of the Netherlands, Kapyong among others. It's true that Canada does not have a great military in size, but it managed to win key battles even being severely outnumbered. (vimy, kapyong) But yes, if WWIII happened, all the Canadians would be running away to the prairies (who would bomb a bunch of wheat fields?)

[-ShadySoul-]

??? The two ships you are talking about were prior to WWI/Boer, as Canada relied on the British Royal Navy... Canada sucks at warfare?? 1812 (who won is debatable, the battles were pretty much even with the US) Vimy Ridge, Juno Beach,Ortona, liberation of the Netherlands, Kapyong among others. It's true that Canada does not have a great military in size, but it managed to win key battles even being severely outnumbered. (vimy, kapyong) But yes, if WWIII happened, all the Canadians would be running away to the prairies (who would bomb a bunch of wheat fields?)

Dont get me wrong man, i live in Canada and i LOVE it. BUT, the battles that you are talking were not won thx to great Canadian heroism or because Canada had a better army. No, they won those battles (especially the vimie ridge one ) only because generals FINALLY figured out how to fight, and instead of just sending people ot there to be slaughtered by machine guns, they used tactics. It was only a matter of time before that happened, and Canadian Royal Army was the first one to try out those new tactics. They weren't designed by them, they were just acted out, and, happily, those tactics worked.
During world war 1 Canada relied on Britain, if WWIII is to start, Canada is, once again going to lean on a bigger country. Canada would be of little help, since they feel no more patriotic ties with Britain ( flashback: when the WWI started, Canada still didn't have their own identity and felt obliged to help Britain in war) they will not send out volunteers, and, most likely, will not fight back. Plus, remember, I am talking about atomic warfare, and i don't think Canada has many war heads at their disposal.

MTG---I understand that, currently Russia is not loved in Europe, but neither is USA ( cmon, you gotta admit that ). And i don't think the war would start for another half a century, because Putin would have to be the dumbest person alive to wage war against USA at this moment. I am not arguing, USA does have advanced warfare, but if you were just to look back to the Cold war. Had we ( USSR ) not given a good fight? Have we not showed that we can make great and destructive technology, yes we have. USSR's problem was that they tried to supply way too many countries, while them selfs were poor. And do you really think, we would not put up a good fight in 50 or so years? I think so. In the past 15 years, Russia's economy improved, mostly thx to Putin who realized that Russia is in shit and it needs to change. He has advanced every single field, from health care to education. Russian Ruble has grown, and is stable, but the one thing that has not changed is people. They will forever remain the same, and they will forever hate americans. That is just in their blood, and that is just teh way it is always going to be. I am speaking for myself right now, but if WWIII would start, every Russian would give their last drop of blood for their country, no matter how greedy or selfish we might look.

Russia will continue to grow ( unlike China we dont have a huge history of Civil wars, more like world wars , it will continue to improve, and in the end it will be just like in 1980's. There will be USA, Russia, and this time Europe, and everyone will be guessing:"Who the f*ck is ghoing to push the button first?"
However, if the war is to begin right now we are all FUCKED, USA would just own the shit out of us.

PS. I dont have anything against Americans, since i have come to love foreign people after living in Canada. I am just speaking from 90% of Russian population.

PSS- Did you know that Putin was named the president of 2007?

[muy_thaiguy]

Russia will continue to grow ( unlike China we dont have a huge history of Civil wars,

Okay. The only reason that is, is because Russian history doesn't date back 3000+ years. And in the few revolutions that Russia has had, they would rank right up there with any of those China has had.

[-ShadySoul-]

Russia will continue to grow ( unlike China we dont have a huge history of Civil wars,

Okay. The only reason that is, is because Russian history doesn't date back 3000+ years. And in the few revolutions that Russia has had, they would rank right up there with any of those China has had.

true, we tend to be very radical when it comes to choosing our leaders.

[muy_thaiguy]

Russia will continue to grow ( unlike China we dont have a huge history of Civil wars,

Okay. The only reason that is, is because Russian history doesn't date back 3000+ years. And in the few revolutions that Russia has had, they would rank right up there with any of those China has had.

true, we tend to be very radical when it comes to choosing our leaders.

Last I heard, there have been growing movements to restore Eastern European Monarchs, including the Tsar of Russia.

[-ShadySoul-]

Russia will continue to grow ( unlike China we dont have a huge history of Civil wars,

Okay. The only reason that is, is because Russian history doesn't date back 3000+ years. And in the few revolutions that Russia has had, they would rank right up there with any of those China has had.

true, we tend to be very radical when it comes to choosing our leaders.

Last I heard, there have been growing movements to restore Eastern European Monarchs, including the Tsar of Russia.

It is never happening, it would be kind of stupid to go back into the Dark ages when Tzar's ruled.

[Iliad]

Russia will continue to grow ( unlike China we dont have a huge history of Civil wars,

Okay. The only reason that is, is because Russian history doesn't date back 3000+ years. And in the few revolutions that Russia has had, they would rank right up there with any of those China has had.

Few is a good word for one. The economy of Russia and China is improving while USA is in deep dept.

[Balsiefen]

I would guess somwhare like South Africa or, more likely New Zeland would come out best off. Obviously, in a neuclear war, all the major participents, USA, China, Russia, Europe would be destroyed entirely by each other and the explosions and dust clouds would cause massive climate change which would be defistating for nations near deserts (which would expand) or delicate ecosystems like rainforests (which would collapse) so what you need is a temperate, out of the way, moderatly rich nation which had the sense to stay out of the war.

[Jenos Ridan]

Imagine this, its January 5th 2009, you are quietly browsing the intelligent conversation forum, when suddenly...BOOM! An atom bomb has been dropped in a city couple of hundreds of miles away from ya. The destruction wave cant reach ya, neither can heat or radiation waves. The after shock of the tragedy already subsided, what do you do now?

Reality check- who do you think would win the 3rd world war? And lets keep this realistic, there is no way Romania would even be a competitor.

The "big guns" - USA, Russia, China, Europe, Cuba.
Please provide reasonable evidence to your decision, and out of patriotic reasons you are allowed to post something like "U-S-A, U-S-A", but just once.

I would express my opinion once I have seen some valuable info being put out there.

-SS

USA: Better ICBM defence

THAAD, Boeing Laser 747 and others that escape me at the moment.

VS

Soviet-era anti-ballistic missile system used nuclear warheads to blow incoming missiles away. Only effective around Moscow and nowhere else in Russian territory.

In the reallity, it will start as a conventional war in either the Middle East (Already there if it counts) or Europe (which is where it would have happened until 1991) and rapidly spill out of control from there unless it somehow strays conventional (both sides know that would be for the best if they plan on actually winning).

[-ShadySoul-]

i am not denying that USA has a better technology at the moment, i am talking later years. Read my other posts.

[MeDeFe]

Then they will just think "vukk it, leeeets send ze vuking nukesski's in"

And then we all die.

Except for me.

And then, whenever you masturbate at a place where a bomb exploded your magnificient sperm will begin to grow and develop into a new race of superhumans. Norse as their ancestor will be worshipped for all eternity. Statues will be raised to commemorate you, holidays will be celebrated in your honour, your face will be on every currency.

[Gregrios]

The winner of the UPCOMING World War 3 has already been decided. For God says so. I beleive in perfect faith in the coming of Jesus Christ.