Radical Feminists

[brooksieb]

what are radical feminism/feminazis stance on men?

[brooksieb]

and btw i didnt mean that in a way to have a go at u i just wanna find out ur view on this so i can get a better understanding of what people think

[Norse]

You know, In Britain, apparently 68% of the population are on the "discrimination list"?

Yup, 32% of us are white, able-bodied men between the ages of 18-65.

Hehe, us old oppressing white men. The world would be so much better without us.



****DARK ARCHAIC AGES****

[ignotus]

FemiNazi?
They look and act funny to me.
I think 4/5 of them are lesbians that had some trouble in youth with their fathers. They try to look unappealing but to sick weirdos like me they look just fine.

[btownmeggy]

what are radical feminism/feminazis stance on men?

Radical feminism has a wide variety of views on men, ranging from active perpetrators of oppression to happenstance participants in a global social phenomenon to would-be liberators. I don't think that radical feminism, as a philosophy, pigeonholes either men or women into any role. In fact, I think that would be contrary to the nature of feminism in general.

I don't subscribe to the term feminazi. See my post on this page:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... c&start=15

"Feminazi" is meaningless except as a catch-all insult for a woman. Obviously you're trying to insult women in this thread, though, so maybe you're using it effectively.

[ignotus]

Well someone once called me a male pig. I'm not offended that easy. FemiNazi is probably a bad name, but only to that women who think maybe they are one.
But Anarcho-feminism and other kinds of we-are-all-against-male-feminism just make me laugh. For instance: 13% of the women (more than men) in Croatia get college education by the latest pools. So who is ruling than the one that are better educated?

Although, I must admit, FemiNazi do have some good arguments...

[btownmeggy]

But Anarcho-feminism and other kinds of we-are-all-against-male-feminism just make me laugh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchofeminism

*sigh*

[brooksieb]

how do i insult women, without women i wud not be born, give me a sentence i made (and i mean a serious sentence that uve looked through) where i've insulted all women

[Ariel*]

how do i insult women, without women i wud not be born, give me a sentence i made (and i mean a serious sentence that uve looked through) where i've insulted all women

did anyone actually say that you've insulted women?

[got tonkaed]

brooks the premises behind your posts and the things that you do in fact say could very easily be construed as offensive. Just because you arent able to readily see this (most people dont see some of the issues with their own biases) does not mean they arent there or fairly easy to identify by an outside observer.

[Heimdall]

Depends what they look like.

[Norse]

Feminism is like esoteric purile nationalism with breasts.

[brooksieb]

one page 2 btown meg said i insulted women

and tonkaed how come these radical feminists can get away with insulting men i admit i may have been politically incorrect but i dont agree to being sexist.... whats the point?

[btownmeggy]

how do i insult women, without women i wud not be born, give me a sentence i made (and i mean a serious sentence that uve looked through) where i've insulted all women

You made a thread attacking "radical feminists", also called by you as "feminazis", a name that alludes to a nationalist mass movement that was responsible for what is probably considered the most terrifyingly horrible human rights abuse of all history. This group of "radical feminists" is indescript, except in that they possibly don't shave their armpits and they want men to be slaves. Since such a constituency is probably non-existent, one can only assume that you're just attacking anyone who has an inkling of an opinion that maybe women haven't gotten the best end of the deal over the course of human history. By attacking this idea, your suggesting that women deserve things like beatings by the people that they love most, "honor killings", lack of choice about reproduction, education, and professions. That's insulting. To all women.

If there exists a woman who might fittingly be described as a feminazi, introduce her to me. Give me her email address. I'm serious. Because I've never met such a person, and believe you me, I've been hanging out in the right kinds of circles to find them. I went to college (university) at what is commonly considered the most radical school in the U.S. It was about 65% female, hard hard left, and most of us gals there didn't shave much of anything. I heard people say, "Women should have a choice!", but the idea of someone saying "Men are inferior objects who should be knocked to the ground, crushed under our heels, and made to suf-suf-suffer!" was so far from the realm of reasonable consciousness that its mere consideration is absurd.

[got tonkaed]

one page 2 btown meg said i insulted women

and tonkaed how come these radical feminists can get away with insulting men i admit i may have been politically incorrect but i dont agree to being sexist.... whats the point?

some differences between radical feminists and you: Typically people with criticism worth listening to, are not specifically singleing out individual men, rather larger more macro level qualities. However, when you bring the charge against "Femininazis" you are leveling a charge against any particular woman youd like to. Aside from an issue of scale, its an issue of quality of rhetoric and intelligence behind the argument. Its not entirely sexist i suppose, but it is indicative of a failure of an ability to detect subltey and difference between meaning.

Obviously those who chide out individual men as a matter of course have as much of a place at the table as those who single out those women.

[Norse]

Feminism is worse than nazism.

[got tonkaed]

Feminism is worse than nazism.

nazism has been seen historically as a pretty bad thing. I mean as much as one may or may not like teh idea of empowering women, i dont know if it can quite compare on a practical level to that nazi thing.

[Norse]

Well, ya know, maybe women should learn thier place.

[got tonkaed]

Well, ya know, maybe women should learn thier place.

whats the norseish translation for mein kampf lol.

[brooksieb]

well i guess that was a bit rong to call em that ill just call em radical feminists from now on...but im not backing down from what i believe in that women and men shud live together peacefully

(sorry about that i didnt say things correctly)

[btownmeggy]

well i guess that was a bit rong to call em that ill just call em radical feminazis from now on...but im not backing down from what i believe in that women and men shud live together peacefully

[brooksieb]

and when did i say that give me a example of when i said that? i think ur getting a bit hot under the collar

[got tonkaed]

and when did i say that give me a example of when i said that? i think ur getting a bit hot under the collar

although i feel like whatever mistreatment you feel like you are receiving is a bit overstated, surely you didnt think you could post a thread asking people essentially to deride radical feminists and expect that everyone would agree with you. Frankly meggy is pretty civil most of the time and i dont think im being out of line either.

If your going to hold a view that is full of conflict toward a large group of people, sometimes people are going to disagree.

[duck]

Most of the guys in this thread seem to be under the impression that man-hating females and radical feminists are the same thing when really they aren't. A radical feminist is a person who feels that there must be a complete uprooting and reorganization of our society in order to achieve equality.

A man-hater is someone who hosts resentments against all males for whatever reasons, be it personal experience or a general attitude that men are the cause of all problems.

There is line seperating misandry and radical feminism.

That being said I feel that radical feminism, although well intentioned, is ridiculous. It may be the only true way to accomplish equality, but it is entirely illogical in the general realm of impossibility. While it may represent some level of conformity to the same system they are "fighting," a move to adopt a more moderately feminist view would be far more effective as a means to achieve equality. By this I mean working towards equality by attempting to change the systems already in place.

...yeah

[got tonkaed]

Most of the guys in this thread seem to be under the impression that man-hating females and radical feminists are the same thing when really they aren't. A radical feminist is a person who feels that there must be a complete uprooting and reorganization of our society in order to achieve equality.

A man-hater is someone who hosts resentments against all males for whatever reasons, be it personal experience or a general attitude that men are the cause of all problems.

There is line seperating misandry and radical feminism.

That being said I feel that radical feminism, although well intentioned, is ridiculous. It may be the only true way to accomplish equality, but it is entirely illogical in the general realm of impossibility. While it may represent some level of conformity to the same system they are "fighting," a move to adopt a more moderately feminist view would be far more effective as a means to achieve equality. By this I mean working towards equality by attempting to change the systems already in place.

...yeah

the debate between adapting to present systems and trying for more broadsweeping reforms seemingly has been at the crux of feminist thinking from the very beginnings of the movement.....although im not sure if i agree or disagree id be tempted to say those who have tried for larger changes have had more success.