Ron Paul supporter denied his rights ?

[Dancing Mustard]

Ron Paul seems to attract crazies

No, he seems to attract those that have waken up from the media brainwashing. Yes, we need a Patriot Act to protect Americans from terrorism! Yes, we need a Nation ID Card to protect Americans from terrorism! Yes, we need to merge North America into a union to protect Americans from terrorism! Yes, we were attacked on 911 because terrorist hate our freedom!

THE MOST BASIC FORM OF MIND CONTROL IS REPETITION. Turn off your tv.

Thank you for confirming my view

I do what I can to confirm the sheeple so as not to scare them with REALITY.

No need to confirm his view twice there Jay. Repetition is just mind-control after all...

[Norse]

Ron Paul seems to attract crazies

No, he seems to attract those that have waken up from the media brainwashing. Yes, we need a Patriot Act to protect Americans from terrorism! Yes, we need a Nation ID Card to protect Americans from terrorism! Yes, we need to merge North America into a union to protect Americans from terrorism! Yes, we were attacked on 911 because terrorist hate our freedom!


THE MOST BASIC FORM OF MIND CONTROL IS REPETITION. Turn off your tv.

Thank you for confirming my view

I do what I can to confirm the sheeple so as not to scare them with REALITY.

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[vtmarik]

Ron Paul is good
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Repetition is Mind Control

Yes it is Jay, and you are a victim.

Do you want a hug?

[Napoleon Ier]

Remember, it's possible find something in nothing, if you look hard enough.

Finding merit in absurd unelectable presidential candidates for example...

By absurd you mean having a grasp of basic econmics?

[Chris7He]

Toward the candidate
In November, a Nevada brothel owner gave Paul his stamp of approval and raised money for the Texas congressman. Dennis Hof, owner of the Moonlite BunnyRanch near Carson City, wanted to leave collection boxes outside the door so people could drop in their political contributions. A spokesman for Paul says the congressman doesn't condone prostitution on a personal level. But, he says, "it's not the role of federal government and it's not in the constitution for federal government to regulate these things." Hof's operation was shut down because of regulations against anonymous political donations.

In December 2007, the Associated Press reported that Paul kept a $500 donation from Don Black, operator of Stormfront, a white nationalist organization website. Paul's staff responded "Dr. Paul stands for freedom, peace, prosperity and inalienable rights. If someone with small ideologies happens to contribute money to Ron, thinking he can influence Ron in any way, he's wasted his money, ... Ron is going to take the money and try to spread the message of freedom."

Paul was also criticized on Meet the Press by Tim Russert for asking that $400 million in previously earmarked funds be directed back to his district for water projects, a nursing program, to expand a hospital cancer center and $10 million to promote Texas shrimp. On Meet the Press, Paul defended his bid for the earmarked funds saying he never voted for an earmark in his life. Tim Russert said Paul's statement was like saying, "you voted for it before you voted against it." Congressman Paul responded,"I put them in because I represent people who are asking for some of their money back, ... I'm against the tax system, but I take all my tax credits. I want to get their money back for the people."


Toward supporters
Criticism has been levied at Ron Paul supporters. At the start of the Ron Paul Meetup group, co-host Don Mooney asked, "How many of you wear tinfoil hats and dance the macarena?" Columnist Mona Charen recently said that Paul has "conspiracy-minded fans." "His supporters are the equivalent of crabgrass," says G.O.P. consultant Frank Luntz. "It's not the grass you want, and it spreads faster than the real stuff."

[unriggable]

Jay, you're a christian yet you claim to have opened your eyes. Ironic much?

[luns101]

http://digg.com/politics/Ron_Paul_supporter_denied_right_to_display_support_2


If this was any other canidate this would have been all over the place.

You Paulistas....aaaggghhh!

Pinellas County has been dealing with sign issues since 1992. It's not a recent phenomenon for Ron Paul supporters. Citizens for a Scenic Florida link

At the state level, there is a law prohibiting political signs from being posted either on public property or right-of-way easements (which is where that guy put them by posting them on his fence instead of his yard) Florida Statute 479.11[8] as cited by Citizens for a Scenic Florida The guy probably didn't even realize that the right-of-way easement existed when he bought the property...that's why they never bothered him before when he posted other signs on his yard. He broke the law when he put them on his fence.

The city of Clearwater, Florida has their own guidelines. You may not post a sign of any kind (doesn't matter if it's political or not) on a right-of-way easement!! I'm quoting from pg. 10 of the City of Clearwater, Florida's own Residential Guidelines:

"Political Yard Sign - one per political candidate or issue for each yard frontage. Up to 6 square feet. May be up 60 days before an election and are to be removed within 7 days after the election" Right after that in big capitalized font - "NO SIGNS MAY BE PLACED ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY" Communities do this all the time. It's not because they have some sinister plot to keep Ron Paul out of the public debate on who to vote for. Sheesh!!

You Ron Paul supporters keep posting how there's going to be a North American Union with a new currency denomination called the Amero. You also keep saying the Federal Reserve is illegal. It's you guys who are coining your own silly money and trying to usurp monetary policy. Ron Paul Liberty Dollar story.

It just never friggin' ends with you people! I need a drink....where's IzMan or Backglass?

[Guiscard]

http://digg.com/politics/Ron_Paul_supporter_denied_right_to_display_support_2


If this was any other canidate this would have been all over the place.

You Paulistas....aaaggghhh!

Pinellas County has been dealing with sign issues since 1992. It's not a recent phenomenon for Ron Paul supporters. Citizens for a Scenic Florida link

At the state level, there is a law prohibiting political signs from being posted either on public property or right-of-way easements (which is where that guy put them by posting them on his fence instead of his yard) Florida Statute 479.11[8] as cited by Citizens for a Scenic Florida The guy probably didn't even realize that the right-of-way easement existed when he bought the property...that's why they never bothered him before when he posted other signs on his yard. He broke the law when he put them on his fence.

The city of Clearwater, Florida has their own guidelines. You may not post a sign of any kind (doesn't matter if it's political or not) on a right-of-way easement!! I'm quoting from pg. 10 of the City of Clearwater, Florida's own Residential Guidelines:

"Political Yard Sign - one per political candidate or issue for each yard frontage. Up to 6 square feet. May be up 60 days before an election and are to be removed within 7 days after the election" Right after that in big capitalized font - "NO SIGNS MAY BE PLACED ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY" Communities do this all the time. It's not because they have some sinister plot to keep Ron Paul out of the public debate on who to vote for. Sheesh!!

You Ron Paul supporters keep posting how there's going to be a North American Union with a new currency denomination called the Amero. You also keep saying the Federal Reserve is illegal. It's you guys who are coining your own silly money and trying to usurp monetary policy. Ron Paul Liberty Dollar story.

It just never friggin' ends with you people! I need a drink....where's IzMan or Backglass?

No, you sherson (singular form of sheeple?)...

Its the shadowy Illuminati bloodlines... There can be no other explanation. Alternative news sites and badly-researched youtube videos tell all!

Open

Your

Mind

!!!

[vtmarik]

http://digg.com/politics/Ron_Paul_supporter_denied_right_to_display_support_2


If this was any other canidate this would have been all over the place.

You Paulistas....aaaggghhh!

Pinellas County has been dealing with sign issues since 1992. It's not a recent phenomenon for Ron Paul supporters. Citizens for a Scenic Florida link

At the state level, there is a law prohibiting political signs from being posted either on public property or right-of-way easements (which is where that guy put them by posting them on his fence instead of his yard) Florida Statute 479.11[8] as cited by Citizens for a Scenic Florida The guy probably didn't even realize that the right-of-way easement existed when he bought the property...that's why they never bothered him before when he posted other signs on his yard. He broke the law when he put them on his fence.

The city of Clearwater, Florida has their own guidelines. You may not post a sign of any kind (doesn't matter if it's political or not) on a right-of-way easement!! I'm quoting from pg. 10 of the City of Clearwater, Florida's own Residential Guidelines:

"Political Yard Sign - one per political candidate or issue for each yard frontage. Up to 6 square feet. May be up 60 days before an election and are to be removed within 7 days after the election" Right after that in big capitalized font - "NO SIGNS MAY BE PLACED ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY" Communities do this all the time. It's not because they have some sinister plot to keep Ron Paul out of the public debate on who to vote for. Sheesh!!

You Ron Paul supporters keep posting how there's going to be a North American Union with a new currency denomination called the Amero. You also keep saying the Federal Reserve is illegal. It's you guys who are coining your own silly money and trying to usurp monetary policy. Ron Paul Liberty Dollar story.

It just never friggin' ends with you people! I need a drink....where's IzMan or Backglass?

Woo! Luns!

You rock!

[Dancing Mustard]

Remember, it's possible find something in nothing, if you look hard enough.

Finding merit in absurd unelectable presidential candidates for example...

By absurd you mean having a grasp of basic econmics?

Nope. I mean ridiculous, especially the unique brand of ridiculous plonker who would take donations from Stormfront; not that I'm naming any names here.

And yes, before you ask, by 'unelectable' I mean: 'Un-fucking-electable'.



Glad I could help you there...

[vtmarik]

Remember, it's possible find something in nothing, if you look hard enough.

Finding merit in absurd unelectable presidential candidates for example...

By absurd you mean having a grasp of basic econmics?

Nope. I mean ridiculous, especially the unique brand of ridiculous plonker who would take donations from Stormfront; not that I'm naming any names here.

And yes, before you ask, by 'unelectable' I mean: 'Un-fucking-electable'.



Glad I could help you there...

Well, in a way, it's actually a lot more of a "f*ck you" to take their money and spend it on the opposite of what they want then to just give the money back.

What would piss off white supremacists more? A returned check, or knowing that that $500 went as part of an aid package to Africa?

[hecter]

Pinellas County has been dealing with sign issues since 1992. It's not a recent phenomenon for Ron Paul supporters. Citizens for a Scenic Florida link

At the state level, there is a law prohibiting political signs from being posted either on public property or right-of-way easements (which is where that guy put them by posting them on his fence instead of his yard) Florida Statute 479.11[8] as cited by Citizens for a Scenic Florida The guy probably didn't even realize that the right-of-way easement existed when he bought the property...that's why they never bothered him before when he posted other signs on his yard. He broke the law when he put them on his fence.

That's pretty much what I posted, but what do I know, eh? I'm just some Canadian kid...

[Dancing Mustard]

What would piss off white supremacists more? A returned check, or knowing that that $500 went as part of an aid package to Africa?

Being denied the politically legitamising gesture of having their donation accepted in the first place?

And yes, not everything that Big Ron does with donations is what they'd do themselves, but he has a whole raft of other policies which White Supremacists (and coincidentally Jay) tend to be down with. Simply cherry-picking individual parts of his manifesto and claiming that's where the donation went isn't actually giving them a 'f*ck you' at all, it's just speculation and fiction.

[vtmarik]

What would piss off white supremacists more? A returned check, or knowing that that $500 went as part of an aid package to Africa?

Being denied the politically legitamising gesture of having their donation accepted in the first place?

And yes, not everything that Big Ron does with donations is what they'd do themselves, but he has a whole raft of other policies which White Supremacists (and coincidentally Jay) tend to be down with. Simply cherry-picking individual parts of his manifesto and claiming that's where the donation went isn't actually giving them a 'f*ck you' at all, it's just speculation and fiction.

That is true, and is the main thing that scares me about him.

What if Ron Paul is the Antichrist? Didn't the Bible say something about the Antichrist being a beguiling figure? Someone who everyone comes to love, despite all of the warnings?

[Napoleon Ier]

What would piss off white supremacists more? A returned check, or knowing that that $500 went as part of an aid package to Africa?

Being denied the politically legitamising gesture of having their donation accepted in the first place?

And yes, not everything that Big Ron does with donations is what they'd do themselves, but he has a whole raft of other policies which White Supremacists (and coincidentally Jay) tend to be down with. Simply cherry-picking individual parts of his manifesto and claiming that's where the donation went isn't actually giving them a 'f*ck you' at all, it's just speculation and fiction.

Not everything white supremacists believe is wrong. If the Grand Dragon of the KKK made a statement such as "I believe in free trade" I'd agree with him. Ron Paul could easily return the $500 which are giving his campaogn such poor publicity. However he's making a courageous statement, that he will accept help from anyone whilst not letting them corrupt him, as too many previous administrations have.
Then of course there'sthe fact Ron Paul actually has some sensible economic policy which is the only way the world will be able to avoid significant damage from the reprecussions of the subprime mortgage meltdown (itself a cause of govt. intervention).

[Dancing Mustard]

Not everything white supremacists believe is wrong. If the Grand Dragon of the KKK made a statement such as "I believe in free trade" I'd agree with him.

Good for you. The problem with this novel line of argument is that Stormfront do not publicly stand for any such thing. They're a white supremacist group, and push no other agenda. By accepting the donation you're tacitly supporting such institutions, that's the simple reality of this.
Yes Stormfront's members might be lovely people, and yes they might believe in all manner of nice things... but that's not what the donating organisation stands for, and it's the not those views which Big Ron's acceptance of the donation is legitamising.

[Napoleon Ier]

Not everything white supremacists believe is wrong. If the Grand Dragon of the KKK made a statement such as "I believe in free trade" I'd agree with him.

Good for you. The problem with this novel line of argument is that Stormfront do not publicly stand for any such thing. They're a white supremacist group, and push no other agenda. By accepting the donation you're tacitly supporting such institutions, that's the simple reality of this.
Yes Stormfront's members might be lovely people, and yes they might believe in all manner of nice things... but that's not what the donating organisation stands for, and it's the not those views which Big Ron's acceptance of the donation is legitamising.

Is he really "legitimising" their views? $500 is enough of a token amount that we can safely say Ron Paul is not in the pocket of white supremacist organisations. In fact, maybe we should enquire, why exactly did they support him?

"We like his (Paul’s) stand on tight borders and opposition to a police state," (that's Don Black speaking)

So looks to me rather than supporting him out of any belief he'll help organize lynch mobs nationwide to slaughter the negroes, Don Black donated the money because Ron Paul is less likely to shut down his organization from which Black n doubt earns a living off donations to it.

[Napoleon Ier]

In any case, Ron Paul is no white supremacist. This was done honestly and out in the open. If you look at campaign funding issues amongst other candidates, its all far more worrying. I'd rather concentrate on genuine issues that will affect the Unites States and the world than on some stupid overblown incident like this.

[Dancing Mustard]

Is he really "legitimising" their views?

Yes.
By accepting their monetary support he's demonstrating that he regards them as an acceptable entity. That lends them a legitamacy that they did not previously have. How hard is this concept for Ron Paul lovers to grasp?

$500 is enough of a token amount that we can safely say Ron Paul is not in the pocket of white supremacist organisations.

Good job that's not what we were saying in the first place then... but thanks for pointing out the blatantly obvious none the less.

In fact, maybe we should enquire, why exactly did they support him?

It doesn't really matter what specific reason they said they were giving him the money for; what matters is that he found their organisation and their ideas, on the whole, acceptable to his way of thinking, and loaned them the legitamasing gesture of accepting their donation. I applaud your creative attempts to wriggle out of this fact; but it's just the truth of the matter. Who cares why they chose to donate, it's the simple fact that he'd accept a donation from that organisation.

Would he be ok to accept donations from the Hitler Youth, Al-Qaeda or KKK if they said they were giving because they liked his stance on reducing the National Debt? Here's a clue, sane people say 'no' at this point.

"We like his (Paul’s) stand on tight borders (and not letting any more blacks and mexicans in) and opposition to a police state (because we like to own large numbers of unecessary firearms),"

Reading between the lines is so much fun...

[jay_a2j]

DM please don't reproduce.

[hecter]

DM please don't reproduce.

Way to dispute the points he made! Man, I bet it'll take him weeks to come up with something to an argument against that...

[jay_a2j]

DM please don't reproduce.

Way to dispute the points he made! Man, I bet it'll take him weeks to come up with something to an argument against that...

No points were made hector. I find it laughable that a few keep trying to pin the "racist" label on Ron Paul. I've got a video for you to watch.... it should put this issue to bed....


NAIL IN COFFIN


ANOTHER NAIL FOR GOOD MEASURE

[Dancing Mustard]

No points were made hector. I find it laughable that a few keep trying to pin the "racist" label on Ron Paul.

Yes they were, by both me and Nappy, you're just too stupid/blinkered to see them because you're afraid of hearing something bad about your darling Ron. Also, please point out the bit of my post where I called Big Ron a racist, I can't help but noice that's a word unique to your post. Something you'd like to tell us about him perhaps?

Anyway, I'd better start learning to make 'points' hadn't I, shall I start by examining your posts for tips on how to do that?

DM please don't reproduce.

Oh, apparently I shouldn't...

Better luck next time VaJay_a2jay

[Serbia]

I've been reading this, and I don't see where anyone is suggesting Paul is racist either. However, accepting donations from certain groups just doesn't look good. You think the media that you fear so much wouldn't plaster a "Romney accepts donations for a white supremacist group" all over the place? And I'm sure you'd then come up with a YouTube video explaining how Romney wants take away rights from blacks, while not only is Ron Paul for rights for blacks, but he also doesn't believe in killing blacks either, so vote Ron Paul!!!111!!1!!!!!!11!

[Napoleon Ier]

Ron Paul's taken the view he will take Don Black's money (remember this is a private donation, not one written by the organization itself) and spend it for the cause of promoting freedom. You can see why he has chosen to do that. He is no white suprmacist, so I frankly see no reason this should count against him.