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Postby Der Fuhrer on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:21 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:Then I suggest you be rid of that computer ASAP. :P


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Postby Der Fuhrer on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:23 pm

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muy_thaiguy wrote:Then I suggest you be rid of that computer ASAP. :P


But most of the parts were made in Communist Peoples Republic of China... :roll: :roll: :roll:


f*ck, but you are a moron. China is about as communist as the Moon is socialist. China is a defacto fascist state. Read a fucking book you dumb bitch.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:26 pm

Der Fuhrer wrote:
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muy_thaiguy wrote:Then I suggest you be rid of that computer ASAP. :P


But most of the parts were made in Communist Peoples Republic of China... :roll: :roll: :roll:


f*ck, but you are a moron. China is about as communist as the Moon is socialist. China is a defacto fascist state. Read a fucking book you dumb bitch.


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Postby Der Fuhrer on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:27 pm

Harijan wrote:
browng-08 wrote:According to wikipedia (I realize wikipedia can be questionable at times...), the People's Republic of China is still run by a communist party. Am I missing something?


The name of the political party is "communist" much like the U.S. is run by republicans. Even though China are moving away from a communist economic system, and have been for years the leading political party has never changed its name OR its official economic system which is still officially and beurocratically communist.

Right now, China's Economy is in some kind of a weird communist/capitalist hybrid transition system. Not really a name for it ATM.


No, China's economy is based upon fascism. No ifs, ands or buts about it. China's system proves fascism is a superior ideology. When China was actually communist, organisations like Unicef were sending cash to that starving shithole. The chinks adopt fascism, and voila! Their economy becomes the world's fastest-growing economy. Is it not interesting that every single fascist country had its best economies under this system? Hmmm? Coincidence? I think not.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:30 pm

Der Fuhrer wrote:
Harijan wrote:
browng-08 wrote:According to wikipedia (I realize wikipedia can be questionable at times...), the People's Republic of China is still run by a communist party. Am I missing something?


The name of the political party is "communist" much like the U.S. is run by republicans. Even though China are moving away from a communist economic system, and have been for years the leading political party has never changed its name OR its official economic system which is still officially and beurocratically communist.

Right now, China's Economy is in some kind of a weird communist/capitalist hybrid transition system. Not really a name for it ATM.


No, China's economy is based upon fascism. No ifs, ands or buts about it. China's system proves fascism is a superior ideology. When China was actually communist, organisations like Unicef were sending cash to that starving shithole. The chinks adopt fascism, and voila! Their economy becomes the world's fastest-growing economy. Is it not interesting that every single fascist country had its best economies under this system? Hmmm? Coincidence? I think not.


FYI, fascism isn't an economic structure. Read a book.

Fascism is a statist view of how a country should work, namely censorship in the media. Read V for Vendetta, that is fascism. China isn't.
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Postby Frigidus on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:33 pm

unriggable wrote:
Der Fuhrer wrote:
Harijan wrote:
browng-08 wrote:According to wikipedia (I realize wikipedia can be questionable at times...), the People's Republic of China is still run by a communist party. Am I missing something?


The name of the political party is "communist" much like the U.S. is run by republicans. Even though China are moving away from a communist economic system, and have been for years the leading political party has never changed its name OR its official economic system which is still officially and beurocratically communist.

Right now, China's Economy is in some kind of a weird communist/capitalist hybrid transition system. Not really a name for it ATM.


No, China's economy is based upon fascism. No ifs, ands or buts about it. China's system proves fascism is a superior ideology. When China was actually communist, organisations like Unicef were sending cash to that starving shithole. The chinks adopt fascism, and voila! Their economy becomes the world's fastest-growing economy. Is it not interesting that every single fascist country had its best economies under this system? Hmmm? Coincidence? I think not.


FYI, fascism isn't an economic structure. Read a book.

Fascism is a statist view of how a country should work, namely censorship in the media. Read V for Vendetta, that is fascism. China isn't.


I'm still not sure whether he's serious or trolling.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:34 pm

Frigidus wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Der Fuhrer wrote:
Harijan wrote:
browng-08 wrote:According to wikipedia (I realize wikipedia can be questionable at times...), the People's Republic of China is still run by a communist party. Am I missing something?


The name of the political party is "communist" much like the U.S. is run by republicans. Even though China are moving away from a communist economic system, and have been for years the leading political party has never changed its name OR its official economic system which is still officially and beurocratically communist.

Right now, China's Economy is in some kind of a weird communist/capitalist hybrid transition system. Not really a name for it ATM.


No, China's economy is based upon fascism. No ifs, ands or buts about it. China's system proves fascism is a superior ideology. When China was actually communist, organisations like Unicef were sending cash to that starving shithole. The chinks adopt fascism, and voila! Their economy becomes the world's fastest-growing economy. Is it not interesting that every single fascist country had its best economies under this system? Hmmm? Coincidence? I think not.


FYI, fascism isn't an economic structure. Read a book.

Fascism is a statist view of how a country should work, namely censorship in the media. Read V for Vendetta, that is fascism. China isn't.


I'm still not sure whether he's serious or trolling.


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Postby Der Fuhrer on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:44 pm

unriggable wrote:
Der Fuhrer wrote:
Harijan wrote:
browng-08 wrote:According to wikipedia (I realize wikipedia can be questionable at times...), the People's Republic of China is still run by a communist party. Am I missing something?


The name of the political party is "communist" much like the U.S. is run by republicans. Even though China are moving away from a communist economic system, and have been for years the leading political party has never changed its name OR its official economic system which is still officially and beurocratically communist.

Right now, China's Economy is in some kind of a weird communist/capitalist hybrid transition system. Not really a name for it ATM.


No, China's economy is based upon fascism. No ifs, ands or buts about it. China's system proves fascism is a superior ideology. When China was actually communist, organisations like Unicef were sending cash to that starving shithole. The chinks adopt fascism, and voila! Their economy becomes the world's fastest-growing economy. Is it not interesting that every single fascist country had its best economies under this system? Hmmm? Coincidence? I think not.


FYI, fascism isn't an economic structure. Read a book.

Fascism is a statist view of how a country should work, namely censorship in the media. Read V for Vendetta, that is fascism. China isn't.


You cannot seriously be this stupid, or can you? Whomever said fascism was only an economic structure? Not I. That would be you. You do understand that fascism controls the economy of a state, thus affecting all economic outcomes yes? Communism is an economic structure, but it is also a social structure. Many have determined that fascism is the same way. You do understand that fascism was born out of socialism yes? It is therefore logical that it can, and must be, at times itself an economic structure. It is you who should read a book. You clearly do not understand fascism. Since it encompasses all aspects of the state, including any economic structure, it is therefore logical that it can indeed be an economic structure.

I would suggest your first book be 'The Little Engine That Could', or perhaps even 'The American That Tried To Be The First American To Have A Brain'.



namely censorship in the media.


Christ on a stick, then I suppose the Soviet Union was fascist yes? North Korea? Cuba? China is clearly fascist, as it is an authoritarian regime which has not only completely adopted capitalism, but it has sought to control it. That's fascism you moron.
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Postby Frigidus on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:45 pm

Der Fuhrer wrote:I would suggest your first book be 'The Little Engine That Could', or perhaps even 'The American That Tried To Be The First American To Have A Brain'.


And what country might you hail from Mr. Fascist?
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Postby unriggable on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:46 pm

Holy shit, you really don't know anything...

The Economic Scale.

Socialism <--------------------> Libertarianism.

The Political Scale.

Anarchy <--------------------> Fascism.
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Postby Der Fuhrer on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:47 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Der Fuhrer wrote:I would suggest your first book be 'The Little Engine That Could', or perhaps even 'The American That Tried To Be The First American To Have A Brain'.


And what country might you hail from Mr. Fascist?


Look at the colour of my text, and on a white background. Which country would you deem those colours to define? f*ck, but Americans are dumber than the logs we sell to them.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:48 pm

Der Fuhrer wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Der Fuhrer wrote:I would suggest your first book be 'The Little Engine That Could', or perhaps even 'The American That Tried To Be The First American To Have A Brain'.


And what country might you hail from Mr. Fascist?


Look at the colour of my text, and on a white background. Which country would you deem those colours to define? f*ck, but Americans are dumber than the logs we sell to them.


How does it feel to be outdone by our dumbass country then? How does the dumbest country in the world end up with a military capable of crushing any other?
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Postby Frigidus on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:49 pm

Der Fuhrer wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Der Fuhrer wrote:I would suggest your first book be 'The Little Engine That Could', or perhaps even 'The American That Tried To Be The First American To Have A Brain'.


And what country might you hail from Mr. Fascist?


Look at the colour of my text, and on a white background. Which country would you deem those colours to define? f*ck, but Americans are dumber than the logs we sell to them.


Oh, red and white? That's quite clear-cut. Ignoring the fact that the background is gray and that most people don't associate colored text with national origin that would make a lot of sense. Oh, and I believe you got lost on the way to Flame Wars.
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Postby jiminski on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:49 pm

Der Fuhrer wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Der Fuhrer wrote:
Harijan wrote:
browng-08 wrote:According to wikipedia (I realize wikipedia can be questionable at times...), the People's Republic of China is still run by a communist party. Am I missing something?


The name of the political party is "communist" much like the U.S. is run by republicans. Even though China are moving away from a communist economic system, and have been for years the leading political party has never changed its name OR its official economic system which is still officially and beurocratically communist.

Right now, China's Economy is in some kind of a weird communist/capitalist hybrid transition system. Not really a name for it ATM.


No, China's economy is based upon fascism. No ifs, ands or buts about it. China's system proves fascism is a superior ideology. When China was actually communist, organisations like Unicef were sending cash to that starving shithole. The chinks adopt fascism, and voila! Their economy becomes the world's fastest-growing economy. Is it not interesting that every single fascist country had its best economies under this system? Hmmm? Coincidence? I think not.


FYI, fascism isn't an economic structure. Read a book.

Fascism is a statist view of how a country should work, namely censorship in the media. Read V for Vendetta, that is fascism. China isn't.


You cannot seriously be this stupid, or can you? Whomever said fascism was only an economic structure? Not I. That would be you. You do understand that fascism controls the economy of a state, thus affecting all economic outcomes yes? Communism is an economic structure, but it is also a social structure. Many have determined that fascism is the same way. You do understand that fascism was born out of socialism yes? It is therefore logical that it can, and must be, at times itself an economic structure. It is you who should read a book. You clearly do not understand fascism. Since it encompasses all aspects of the state, including any economic structure, it is therefore logical that it can indeed be an economic structure.

I would suggest your first book be 'The Little Engine That Could', or perhaps even 'The American That Tried To Be The First American To Have A Brain'.


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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:51 pm

i dont know....if i was going to split hairs i think id be the guy wondering how fun the parties must be for a fascist in a country that not only has a socialized healthcare policy, but in many ways as well is only seen as an international player as an extension of the united states in many observers eyes.
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Postby Risktaker17 on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:57 pm

I hope this thread is a joke, Capitalism is obviously the best economic system ever created. It rewards the hardest workers and greatest achievers. Why should the less successful hold down the great and intelligent. Communism is an awful system of economics. It strips away all motivation to work hard. You work for you brothers but why not for yourself. There is no reason to work hard in a communist society, you are equal whether you are Albert Einstein or a complete idiot. Don't you think Einstein should be rewarded and praised more than the village idiot. Communism is just awful. Not good in theory or practice. Capitalism rewards the intelligent, it is the best system.
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Postby jiminski on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:58 pm

got tonkaed wrote:i dont know....if i was going to split hairs i think id be the guy wondering how fun the parties must be for a fascist in a country that not only has a socialized healthcare policy, but in many ways as well is only seen as an international player as an extension of the united states in many observers eyes.


you talking to me Tonky?

hehe the above could be a description of the UK too.
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Postby Der Fuhrer on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:58 pm

got tonkaed wrote:i dont know....if i was going to split hairs i think id be the guy wondering how fun the parties must be for a fascist in a country that not only has a socialized healthcare policy, but in many ways as well is only seen as an international player as an extension of the united states in many observers eyes.


We have socialised healthcare, and the USA, with a far larger tax-based healthcare system, does not? How the f*ck did you come to this conclusion? The USA's 'socialised healthcare' is far, far larger than our own. Your healthcare bureaucracy is so bloated with government ineptitude, that is makes ours seem sleek, and streamlined by comparison. Are you a complete moron, to utter such a statement?

There is not a single country that considers Canada to be an extension of the United States. Not a one. Trust me on this. Much of Canada hates the USA, and with excellent reason too. Like France, we tell the USA to go f*ck yourselves every chance we get. I keep telling my fellow Canadians that the best way to shut the fucking Americans up would be to turn the taps to the 'off' position, flip the switch to the 'off' position. Doing so would make the USA our bitches for eternity.
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Postby Frigidus on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:59 pm

Risktaker17 wrote:I hope this thread is a joke, Capitalism is obviously the best economic system ever created. It rewards the hardest workers and greatest achievers. Why should the less successful hold down the great and intelligent. Communism is an awful system of economics. It strips away all motivation to work hard. You work for you brothers but why not for yourself. There is no reason to work hard in a communist society, you are equal whether you are Albert Einstein or a complete idiot. Don't you think Einstein should be rewarded and praised more than the village idiot. Communism is just awful. Not good in theory or practice. Capitalism rewards the intelligent, it is the best system.


It is a joke, but lately socialism has been a hot-topic. Kind of weird.
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Postby Der Fuhrer on Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:59 pm

Risktaker17 wrote:I hope this thread is a joke, Capitalism is obviously the best economic system ever created. It rewards the hardest workers and greatest achievers. Why should the less successful hold down the great and intelligent. Communism is an awful system of economics. It strips away all motivation to work hard. You work for you brothers but why not for yourself. There is no reason to work hard in a communist society, you are equal whether you are Albert Einstein or a complete idiot. Don't you think Einstein should be rewarded and praised more than the village idiot. Communism is just awful. Not good in theory or practice. Capitalism rewards the intelligent, it is the best system.


Quite right, and fascism seeks to keep capitalism under strict control, ensuring that it does not become more powerful that the State in which it operates. Democracy is a joke, and should be destroyed.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:00 pm

Risktaker17 wrote:Capitalism rewards the intelligent, it is the best system.


Two things.

1. You don't necessarily need to be rich to be smart. The problem with capitalism is that only the rich can succeed because you can't become rich. Not to mention that it allows the consumer to be cheated, like the case of Enron.

2. Nobody here likes communism. They like socialism because it takes money from those who have too much to spend and gives it to those who need it.
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Postby jiminski on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:00 pm

Der Fuhrer wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:i dont know....if i was going to split hairs i think id be the guy wondering how fun the parties must be for a fascist in a country that not only has a socialized healthcare policy, but in many ways as well is only seen as an international player as an extension of the united states in many observers eyes.


We have socialised healthcare, and the USA, with a far larger tax-based healthcare system, does not? How the f*ck did you come to this conclusion? The USA's 'socialised healthcare' is far, far larger than our own. Your healthcare bureaucracy is so bloated with government ineptitude, that is makes ours seem sleek, and streamlined by comparison. Are you a complete moron, to utter such a statement?

There is not a single country that considers Canada to be an extension of the United States. Not a one. Trust me on this. Much of Canada hates the USA, and with excellent reason too. Like France, we tell the USA to go f*ck yourselves every chance we get. I keep telling my fellow Canadians that the best way to shut the fucking Americans up would be to turn the taps to the 'off' position, flip the switch to the 'off' position. Doing so would make the USA our bitches for eternity.



nah you're on a looser there mate... Most nations think you are part of the USA.... and they are not far wrong you exist under the umbrella of their security.
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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:00 pm

Risktaker17 wrote:I hope this thread is a joke, Capitalism is obviously the best economic system ever created. It rewards the hardest workers and greatest achievers. Why should the less successful hold down the great and intelligent. Communism is an awful system of economics. It strips away all motivation to work hard. You work for you brothers but why not for yourself. There is no reason to work hard in a communist society, you are equal whether you are Albert Einstein or a complete idiot. Don't you think Einstein should be rewarded and praised more than the village idiot. Communism is just awful. Not good in theory or practice. Capitalism rewards the intelligent, it is the best system.


somewhere i think nietzsche may be asking, probably more out of habit than anything else....who is to say that a system that rewards the most intelligent is in any way a better system? Who is to say that the best of men (and women) should need motivation to work hard? Who is to say in short, that you are not an idiot?

now hes probably only doing that out of habit, since he would certainly agree with capitalism more than that herdish socialism....but dont you think it might still bear questioning whether or not the lenses you see teh world through dont color your perception a bit too much?
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Postby Risktaker17 on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:01 pm

I disagree greatly with socialism as well, especially socialized medicine. The US healthcare system is gonna pretty bad if Barack or Hillary win.
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Postby jiminski on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:02 pm

Shh RT.. you're not helping ;)
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