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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:18 pm

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dustn64 wrote:This is ridiculous, people that would even consider the option of containing them are utterly heartless. This is just Pissing me off.


well...that might be just you, cause, like i said, i have seen a lot of cases when mentally challenged kids were encouraged to GTFO
Who would do that? The Nazis?

don't insult the Nazi, i believe they cared pretty well for mentally challenged members of their "arian" race. they just had this jewphobia problem.. :-s
No, they were rounded up too.
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:19 pm

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-ShadySoul- wrote:Yes i do believe it would be a torment for him, but it might make his neighbors feel better or safer

i strongly disagree with you on this one. should we lock up handicaped then also since they're more susceptible to mental disordera due to their condition? you have to look on this subject with more empaty man...


Well lets say, there is a man who has voices talking to him ( i forgot what that disease is called) and he listens to them. If there was a murder in that building, who would be YOUR first suspect. Even before the investigation finished, and you knew perfectly well about the condition of that man.

Im just saying, people can be cruel, and that is why all those people with disabilities should be put in one place for thier protection.
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:20 pm

Simonov wrote:
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dustn64 wrote:This is ridiculous, people that would even consider the option of containing them are utterly heartless. This is just Pissing me off.


well...that might be just you, cause, like i said, i have seen a lot of cases when mentally challenged kids were encouraged to GTFO
Who would do that? The Nazis?

don't insult the Nazi, i believe they cared pretty well for mentally challenged members of their "arian" race. they just had this jewphobia problem.. :-s


Nazi, just like any other nation/group of people, had many problems, but thats a subject for another debate
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Postby EvilPurpleMonkey on Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:44 pm

I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:47 pm

EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
They were rounded up and killed like the Jews were, the ones that were euthanized were the ones that were used for expierementing. (Bad spelling, I know)
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Postby dustn64 on Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:51 pm

-ShadySoul- wrote: If there was a murder in that building, who would be YOUR first suspect.
probably the guy with the bloody ax in his apartment.
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:01 pm

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-ShadySoul- wrote: If there was a murder in that building, who would be YOUR first suspect.
probably the guy with the bloody ax in his apartment.


like i said:
before any evidence was found or any police even came, JUST when you heard about it....who would you think was the murderer? The mentally challenged guy of course
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:02 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
They were rounded up and killed like the Jews were, the ones that were euthanized were the ones that were used for expierementing. (Bad spelling, I know)


yeah...didnt Nazis believed they were the perfect nation, and how can a perfect nation have retards? So, they shot the m down.
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Postby EvilPurpleMonkey on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:03 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
They were rounded up and killed like the Jews were, the ones that were euthanized were the ones that were used for expierementing. (Bad spelling, I know)
Haha, that's were I differ from the nazis. I prefer euthanization to the techniques used by the nazis. I don't think you have to be cruel. well...You know, Crueler. Just chemically inject them. That's pretty tame considering what I think should happen to others.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:04 pm

-ShadySoul- wrote:
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EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
They were rounded up and killed like the Jews were, the ones that were euthanized were the ones that were used for expierementing. (Bad spelling, I know)


yeah...didnt Nazis believed they were the perfect nation, and how can a perfect nation have retards? So, they shot the m down.
In other words, you are an old time USSR fan, aren't you?
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:04 pm

EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
They were rounded up and killed like the Jews were, the ones that were euthanized were the ones that were used for expierementing. (Bad spelling, I know)
Haha, that's were I differ from the nazis. I prefer euthanization to the techniques used by the nazis. I don't think you have to be cruel. well...You know, Crueler. Just chemically inject them.



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Postby EvilPurpleMonkey on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:08 pm

-ShadySoul- wrote:
EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
They were rounded up and killed like the Jews were, the ones that were euthanized were the ones that were used for expierementing. (Bad spelling, I know)
Haha, that's were I differ from the nazis. I prefer euthanization to the techniques used by the nazis. I don't think you have to be cruel. well...You know, Crueler. Just chemically inject them.

no comment :shock:
Yeah, according to the generally accepted morals and policy's I'm pretty fucked up.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:09 pm

EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:
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EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
They were rounded up and killed like the Jews were, the ones that were euthanized were the ones that were used for expierementing. (Bad spelling, I know)
Haha, that's were I differ from the nazis. I prefer euthanization to the techniques used by the nazis. I don't think you have to be cruel. well...You know, Crueler. Just chemically inject them.

no comment :shock:
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That may be an understatement.
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:10 pm

EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:
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EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:I take a Nazi stance when it comes to the genetically inferior and useless. Euthanise them. They aren't doing any good for anyone. They cause emotional, financial, and social stress while contributing nothing to society. If one can afford to take care of them, then fine, let them, if they can't, society won't carry a worthless burden for them.
They were rounded up and killed like the Jews were, the ones that were euthanized were the ones that were used for expierementing. (Bad spelling, I know)
Haha, that's were I differ from the nazis. I prefer euthanization to the techniques used by the nazis. I don't think you have to be cruel. well...You know, Crueler. Just chemically inject them.

no comment :shock:
Yeah, according to the generally accepted morals and policy's I'm pretty fucked up.


o rly?
well, whatever rocks your boat
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:26 pm

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Postby Skittles! on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:37 pm

I don't believe they should be locked up "for their own protection", as Protectionism, or whatever you wana call it, has been used many times in history, but never worked out. They're people, but people are nuisances.

They may be "useless" to society, but so are children, and toddlers, and aged people. Should we lock them all up too? Maybe inject a chemical in them to kill them?

I may hate humans, but chemically killing someone because they're "useless" to society. Society as a whole is useless.
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Postby Neoteny on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:42 pm

Skittles! wrote:I don't believe they should be locked up "for their own protection", as Protectionism, or whatever you wana call it, has been used many times in history, but never worked out. They're people, but people are nuisances.

They may be "useless" to society, but so are children, and toddlers, and aged people. Should we lock them all up too? Maybe inject a chemical in them to kill them?

I may hate humans, but chemically killing someone because they're "useless" to society. Society as a whole is useless.


^^^ An exceedingly intelligent reply. I wasn't going to justify this thread with a response but I have to agree with Skittles. And I assume that these "useless" people are anything but useless to their friends and family. I have lost all respect for society too, and seeing this breathtaking lack of empathy only strengthens that feeling.
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Postby Skittles! on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:48 pm

Yay, I got called intelligent -Feels proud-

Ha, jokes.
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:51 pm

Skittles! wrote:I don't believe they should be locked up "for their own protection", as Protectionism, or whatever you wana call it, has been used many times in history, but never worked out. They're people, but people are nuisances.

They may be "useless" to society, but so are children, and toddlers, and aged people. Should we lock them all up too? Maybe inject a chemical in them to kill them?

I may hate humans, but chemically killing someone because they're "useless" to society. Society as a whole is useless.


BUT we DO lock them up, toddlers in kindergarten, where parents send them just to get some time for themselves, children in school, and old people in retirement homes. WE dont think about it, but we always get rid of what is useless to us, we just want to leave one working unit to rule our society, and thats adults.
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Postby Neoteny on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:51 pm

Skittles! wrote:Yay, I got called intelligent -Feels proud-


Wait... did I just start something that I shouldn't have? :roll:
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Postby Skittles! on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:53 pm

-ShadySoul- wrote:
Skittles! wrote:I don't believe they should be locked up "for their own protection", as Protectionism, or whatever you wana call it, has been used many times in history, but never worked out. They're people, but people are nuisances.

They may be "useless" to society, but so are children, and toddlers, and aged people. Should we lock them all up too? Maybe inject a chemical in them to kill them?

I may hate humans, but chemically killing someone because they're "useless" to society. Society as a whole is useless.


BUT we DO lock them up, toddlers in kindergarten, where parents send them just to get some time for themselves, children in school, and old people in retirement homes. WE dont think about it, but we always get rid of what is useless to us, we just want to leave one working unit to rule our society, and thats adults.

Good point, but now I'll counter that we lock adults up too. We lock them up in work, so all they think about is work, and a family if they have one. Works consumes the majority of people, for what? For money? Humans don't need money, society needs money to run. We never needed money at all. We need work, but we don't need money to go along with it. Work is meant to be for the best of humanity. Money is not the best of humanity. Work should bring equality, but instead it brings disorientation.

We're all locked up, and we don't need to be.
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Postby Skittles! on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:55 pm

Neoteny wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Yay, I got called intelligent -Feels proud-


Wait... did I just start something that I shouldn't have? :roll:

I'm joking. I don't think myself of intelligent, smart, or whatever you want to call it. People these days are too proud, and I'm trying to be less proud than the majority.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:01 am

-ShadySoul- wrote:
Skittles! wrote:I don't believe they should be locked up "for their own protection", as Protectionism, or whatever you wana call it, has been used many times in history, but never worked out. They're people, but people are nuisances.

They may be "useless" to society, but so are children, and toddlers, and aged people. Should we lock them all up too? Maybe inject a chemical in them to kill them?

I may hate humans, but chemically killing someone because they're "useless" to society. Society as a whole is useless.


BUT we DO lock them up, toddlers in kindergarten, where parents send them just to get some time for themselves, children in school, and old people in retirement homes. WE dont think about it, but we always get rid of what is useless to us, we just want to leave one working unit to rule our society, and thats adults.
You are mistaking one thing, for another. Kindergarten is for teaching kids at a young age and to get them ready for school later on. Also, the parents usually go to work at this time, or if it is only a half day thing, the kids go to day-care while the parent finishes work. A few people may drop their elders off at nursing homes, but most only because they are unable to care for them. And others are quite capable of being independent. Also, the elderly help pay the taxes, and the young ones are taught what they need to know.
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:04 am

Skittles! wrote:
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Skittles! wrote:I don't believe they should be locked up "for their own protection", as Protectionism, or whatever you wana call it, has been used many times in history, but never worked out. They're people, but people are nuisances.

They may be "useless" to society, but so are children, and toddlers, and aged people. Should we lock them all up too? Maybe inject a chemical in them to kill them?

I may hate humans, but chemically killing someone because they're "useless" to society. Society as a whole is useless.


BUT we DO lock them up, toddlers in kindergarten, where parents send them just to get some time for themselves, children in school, and old people in retirement homes. WE dont think about it, but we always get rid of what is useless to us, we just want to leave one working unit to rule our society, and thats adults.

Good point, but now I'll counter that we lock adults up too. We lock them up in work, so all they think about is work, and a family if they have one. Works consumes the majority of people, for what? For money? Humans don't need money, society needs money to run. We never needed money at all. We need work, but we don't need money to go along with it. Work is meant to be for the best of humanity. Money is not the best of humanity. Work should bring equality, but instead it brings disorientation.

We're all locked up, and we don't need to be.


touche...but without work we wouldnt have money, thus we wouldnt have all the fancy things that we are so used to. The computer you are typing this on, it was made by people, with one thing in mind---money. Anything that you own belongs to society, thus it doesnt belong to you. We lock up adults because, like i said, they are the ONLY functional unit of our society. Without them we would be living in the Dark Ages, with no luxury, confused, scared, and just plain retarded. The society gives people hope, and a vision of the future. All the way from kinder garden we are taught that the only way to succeed in life is by studying, getting a better job, getting money. I personally despise that tactic, and i wish i could do something about it, but society overpowers any man by giving its people the sense of false security, or "hope", thus the majority belongs to society, thus society wins :(
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:05 am

and mtg...read my above post
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