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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:09 pm

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Hitman079 wrote:whatever mr. "israel was behind 9-11".
i see your westboro baptist church bible.


In that thread, I just asked a question...immediately you are all brainwashed from WWII that any hint of accusation against Israel or Jews becomes bunched in with hate. That is a load!

There are Jews that do not support Israel and do not look to dominate the world's assetts.

I do not hate Jews or Israel...but I think America is a bit too Pro-Israel in their foreign policies. I wouldn't call that hate.

And it still stands that MOSSAD was caught filming the Twin Towers on 9-11.[/quote]

And so were about 5000 other tourists... Were they all in on it too? :roll:
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Postby DaGip on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:13 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
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Hitman079 wrote:whatever mr. "israel was behind 9-11".
i see your westboro baptist church bible.


In that thread, I just asked a question...immediately you are all brainwashed from WWII that any hint of accusation against Israel or Jews becomes bunched in with hate. That is a load!

There are Jews that do not support Israel and do not look to dominate the world's assetts.

I do not hate Jews or Israel...but I think America is a bit too Pro-Israel in their foreign policies. I wouldn't call that hate.

And it still stands that MOSSAD was caught filming the Twin Towers on 9-11.[/quote]

And so were about 5000 other tourists... Were they all in on it too? :roll:


These tourists were from MOSSAD and they were cheering! And high fiving eachother...oh, they had explosives in vans! They were gonna blow up GeorgeWashington Bridge while they made a fake phone call to police to divert police attention to the New Holland tunnel. Geesh!
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:14 pm

So you talked to them and that is what they told you?

Or you heard it on Fox News? :lol:
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Postby DaGip on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:32 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:So you talked to them and that is what they told you?

Or you heard it on Fox News? :lol:


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

I am sure you can find more sites and videos on the matter.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:38 pm

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Anarkistsdream wrote:So you talked to them and that is what they told you?

Or you heard it on Fox News? :lol:


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

I am sure you can find more sites and videos on the matter.


HAHAHAHAAH... Oh, such an accurate reporting site...

I'm sorry I ever doubted you...

Are you taking lessons from Xtra again?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:41 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
DaGip wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:So you talked to them and that is what they told you?

Or you heard it on Fox News? :lol:


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

I am sure you can find more sites and videos on the matter.


HAHAHAHAAH... Oh, such an accurate reporting site...

I'm sorry I ever doubted you...

Are you taking lessons from Xtra again?

:lol: :lol: :lol:



it was very mainstream for a while.

chertoff was the DA that let them off and allowed them to fly back to Israel.

Just google dancing Israelis on 911
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:43 pm

I know the story, bro...

But trying to back up claims with sites like that is just fucking retarded...

I agree that there were many people who were around and could very well be suspicious...

However, I firmly believe that any attack that was known would have been implemented by people that wouldn't stick out like a sore fucking thumb.
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:45 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:I know the story, bro...

But trying to back up claims with sites like that is just fucking retarded...

I agree that there were many people who were around and could very well be suspicious...

However, I firmly believe that any attack that was known would have been implemented by people that wouldn't stick out like a sore fucking thumb.



dude, the dancing Israelis had bombs in their fucking van. They were filming before the planes hit the WTC. Their moving company van lead back to a Mossad front company and Chertoff let them go.
Chertoff has duel citizenship, he is Israelie and Amerikan

thats a pretty big fucken thumb. lol
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:47 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:I know the story, bro...

But trying to back up claims with sites like that is just fucking retarded...

I agree that there were many people who were around and could very well be suspicious...

However, I firmly believe that any attack that was known would have been implemented by people that wouldn't stick out like a sore fucking thumb.



dude, the dancing Israelis had bombs in their fucking van. Their moving company van lead back to a Mossad front company and Chertoff let them go.
Chertoff has duel citizenship, he is Israelie and Amerikan

thats a pretty big fucken thumb. lol


I concur 100%...

Which is why I believe that they were a cover up. They were there to take our eyes away from something way more non-obtrusive.

If you are gonna rob a bank, your best bet is to send someone across town to get all the polices attention...
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Postby unriggable on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:48 pm

Hey xtra, while you're searching these highly accurate websites maybe you should check this out

http://www.martinlutherking.org/
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:59 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:I know the story, bro...

But trying to back up claims with sites like that is just fucking retarded...

I agree that there were many people who were around and could very well be suspicious...

However, I firmly believe that any attack that was known would have been implemented by people that wouldn't stick out like a sore fucking thumb.



dude, the dancing Israelis had bombs in their fucking van. Their moving company van lead back to a Mossad front company and Chertoff let them go.
Chertoff has duel citizenship, he is Israelie and Amerikan

thats a pretty big fucken thumb. lol


I concur 100%...

Which is why I believe that they were a cover up. They were there to take our eyes away from something way more non-obtrusive.

If you are gonna rob a bank, your best bet is to send someone across town to get all the polices attention...



hey at least your paying attention. lol


and unrigg, I dont even give you 2 seconds anymore.
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Postby luns101 on Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:38 pm

DaGip wrote:I didn't hear you tell anyone Happy Vet's Day? :?


I don't need to, you moron! I'm a friggin' Vet! Just wish someone happy Veteran's Day without the 9/11 nonsense. I'm sure when Thanksgiving rolls around you will be posting pictures of the Pilgrims flying the Mayflower into the World Trade Center. Even better, Ron Paul was probably right there with Squanto feeding Miles Standish! Enough already.

xtratabasco wrote:psst luns...look around you...do you see any flags?

in my neighborhood out of about 200 homes there is 2 flags, that is more telling than your reply or sean hannitys on air groveling.


So your neighborhood is representative of the entire U.S. I just drove back to my house down the main street of the city I live in for my lunch break. There's flags everyplace. What does Sean Hannity have to do with celebrating Veteran's Day anyway?
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:53 pm

luns101 wrote:
DaGip wrote:I didn't hear you tell anyone Happy Vet's Day? :?


I don't need to, you moron! I'm a friggin' Vet! Just wish someone happy Veteran's Day without the 9/11 nonsense. I'm sure when Thanksgiving rolls around you will be posting pictures of the Pilgrims flying the Mayflower into the World Trade Center. Even better, Ron Paul was probably right there with Squanto feeding Miles Standish! Enough already.

xtratabasco wrote:psst luns...look around you...do you see any flags?

in my neighborhood out of about 200 homes there is 2 flags, that is more telling than your reply or sean hannitys on air groveling.


So your neighborhood is representative of the entire U.S. I just drove back to my house down the main street of the city I live in for my lunch break. There's flags everyplace. What does Sean Hannity have to do with celebrating Veteran's Day anyway?



because, only in yours and sean hannitys world are flags flying all around.
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Postby luns101 on Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:36 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
luns101 wrote:What does Sean Hannity have to do with celebrating Veteran's Day anyway?



because, only in yours and sean hannitys world are flags flying all around.


Huh? I don't even really like Sean Hannity that much. I would put him up there as almost as irritating as Ann Coulter.


By the way, DaGip...sorry for calling you a moron. I had a momentary lapse of reason there.
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Postby Guiscard on Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:23 pm

luns101 wrote:I don't need to, you moron! I'm a friggin' Vet! Just wish someone happy Veteran's Day without the 9/11 nonsense. I'm sure when Thanksgiving rolls around you will be posting pictures of the Pilgrims flying the Mayflower into the World Trade Center. Even better, Ron Paul was probably right there with Squanto feeding Miles Standish! Enough already.


This conspiracy theory bollocks is really bringing out the best in you, Luns! :D
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Postby DaGip on Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:24 am

luns101 wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:
luns101 wrote:What does Sean Hannity have to do with celebrating Veteran's Day anyway?



because, only in yours and sean hannitys world are flags flying all around.


Huh? I don't even really like Sean Hannity that much. I would put him up there as almost as irritating as Ann Coulter.


By the way, DaGip...sorry for calling you a moron. I had a momentary lapse of reason there.


It's okay, I understand the whole Happy Veteran's Day title was a bit misleading...I actually did mean it! My brother is a Master Gunny in the Marines...all though I hate this war (and I don't know anyone that LOVES war...that in itself is moronic) and I want all our troops home...I still support our troops. My hopes with this post was to get some of the Vets thinking about the reasons they decided to serve. I am not asking them to believe in conspiracy theories, but I want them to see some of the things being presented by some people who supposedly have degrees (and some that are just pure fruitcakes!)...maybe I was wrong to do it this way, but sometimes you have to take an opportunity or you may lose it.

I know it is very hard for good Americans like you, sir, to believe that the American government could be anything but the good guys...I was pro-BUsh on everything...I would drop whatever I was doing and watch him speak...the only TV channel I would watch was FOXNEWS, and everybody else SuCKEd! I had to watch Bill O' and Hannity and Colmes (I still enjoy watching Hannity and Colmes...but I came to the same conclusion as you, that Hannity is a bit irritating...I am really starting to like Alan a bit better, even though I am a Republican).

After watching Bush talk about Iraq...I concluded that he is a major Fuk-up! (Sorry for the language, but this is exactly how I feel). The way he would talk about people...like they weren't even human! "Bring it on!" WTF! Why in the hell would he say that?

I am so angry at this administration now, that I would do anything...ANYTHING to bring our soldiers home NOW! Not tomorrow, or next century...but TODAY! I don't want my brother over there fighting WW3 and getting his nads blown off for oil!

I hope you understand, and I did not mean any offense in my posts.

Thank you, for serving our country...I hope that through this open discussion that I am serving Her as well!

And if I am wrong in what I say, just tell me where I am wrong...but if I am right, then why hit me? (I think Jesus said this, or something like it).


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Postby Guiscard on Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:55 am

DaGip wrote:I am so angry at this administration now, that I would do anything...ANYTHING to bring our soldiers home NOW! Not tomorrow, or next century...but TODAY! I don't want my brother over there fighting WW3 and getting his nads blown off for oil!


And f*ck the Iraqis, right? Let them sort this mess out themselves...
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Postby DaGip on Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:03 am

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DaGip wrote:I am so angry at this administration now, that I would do anything...ANYTHING to bring our soldiers home NOW! Not tomorrow, or next century...but TODAY! I don't want my brother over there fighting WW3 and getting his nads blown off for oil!


And f*ck the Iraqis, right? Let them sort this mess out themselves...


That ain't America...I'm American, not an Iraqi. Let Bush and all his private interests fight that war then, not the American taxpayers and the American military. The American Military was meant to protect our country, not further Imperialistic goals abroad. If you want to fight a war based on acquiring assetts for super wealthy corporations, then go join one of their private mercenary groups like Black Water and go fight the FUCKIN' Corporate war! That little shit spot in the middle of the desert ain't worth one ounce of American blood anymore. Our soldiers were meant to protect our country and its citizens, not to be bogged down half way across the globe fighting an insurgency.

If you ask Iraqis...they want us out! I just agree with them...let's get out.
Most Iraqis Favor Immediate U.S. Pullout, Polls Show
Leaders' Views Out of Step With Public

By Amit R. Paley
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Wednesday, September 27, 2006; Page A22

BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 -- A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01721.html
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:58 am

Withdraw into Kurdistan, and split Iraq into a Sunni state inn the west and a shi'ite one in the east. Leave the savages to sort it out. They are not worth any more European blood.
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:37 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:Withdraw into Kurdistan, and split Iraq into a Sunni state inn the west and a shi'ite one in the east. Leave the savages to sort it out. They are not worth any more European blood.


You massive cock.

Savages? Is our blood worth more than theirs?

So we should go over there, for whatever reason, right or wrong, invade their country, destroy the infrastructure and undermine the stability and then just leave them to it? WE caused the current situation. WE have a responsibility to sort it out. In case you hadn't realized, thousands and thousands more innocent Iraqis (and I am not talking about terrorists or sectarian fighters here) have died than western troops.

Leave the savages to sort it out?

I was actually beginning to give your opinions a little respect, as drastically different from my own as they are... f*ck that, you idiot.
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:39 pm

And that last post goes for DaGip too, except I never really thought his opinion worth reading...
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:48 pm

Well your reaction is understanable. That post was delibratly visceraln and exagerated, I was trying indeed to provoke a reaction from you :wink:


your phallic personifications aside, let us consider Iraq, a country that has, lets face facts, only existed due to totalitarian rule by Saddam. It seems to me what we did was overthrow Saddam Hussein, who was guilty of many crimes against humanity, and was generally, I think we can safely say, a negative influence on Iraq.
Now the power vacuum has resulted in these people tearing each other apart, namely through sectarian violence. I suggest therefore, as a solution, not absolute, but certainly one which would create a huge difference in the current situation, is to split Iraq into three parts :

a.Kurdistan, a relative success, civilized people willing to establish a stable economy and build toward a constructive goal with their liberators, which we could defend with a mere handful of troops from incursions.

b. A Western Sunni state.

c. An Eastern Shi'ite state.

Given the internecine nature of Iraq's current, one almost could say, civil war, to give each faction its own state seems to me a reasonable solution. Now these people seem opposed to allied presence, and to be honest, are behaving like ungrateful savages. I suggest we leave their kind to their own, and let them sort out their own problems. We sorted out Saddam, maybe for the wrong motives, acknowledges, but now they dont want us. Fine. Why should our troops die in some godforsaken desert for ingrates who hate them?
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Postby DaGip on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:51 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:Well your reaction is understanable. That post was delibratly visceraln and exagerated, I was trying indeed to provoke a reaction from you :wink:


your phallic personifications aside, let us consider Iraq, a country that has, lets face facts, only existed due to totalitarian rule by Saddam. It seems to me what we did was overthrow Saddam Hussein, who was guilty of many crimes against humanity, and was generally, I think we can safely say, a negative influence on Iraq.
Now the power vacuum has resulted in these people tearing each other apart, namely through sectarian violence. I suggest therefore, as a solution, not absolute, but certainly one which would create a huge difference in the current situation, is to split Iraq into three parts :

a.Kurdistan, a relative success, civilized people willing to establish a stable economy and build toward a constructive goal with their liberators, which we could defend with a mere handful of troops from incursions.

b. A Western Sunni state.

c. An Eastern Shi'ite state.

Given the internecine nature of Iraq's current, one almost could say, civil war, to give each faction its own state seems to me a reasonable solution. Now these people seem opposed to allied presence, and to be honest, are behaving like ungrateful savages. I suggest we leave their kind to their own, and let them sort out their own problems. We sorted out Saddam, maybe for the wrong motives, acknowledges, but now they dont want us. Fine. Why should our troops die in some godforsaken desert for ingrates who hate them?


I like Bush's idea:

NO NATION BUILDING!
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Postby DaGip on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:52 pm

DaGip wrote:
Guiscard wrote:
DaGip wrote:I am so angry at this administration now, that I would do anything...ANYTHING to bring our soldiers home NOW! Not tomorrow, or next century...but TODAY! I don't want my brother over there fighting WW3 and getting his nads blown off for oil!


And f*ck the Iraqis, right? Let them sort this mess out themselves...


That ain't America...I'm American, not an Iraqi. Let Bush and all his private interests fight that war then, not the American taxpayers and the American military. The American Military was meant to protect our country, not further Imperialistic goals abroad. If you want to fight a war based on acquiring assetts for super wealthy corporations, then go join one of their private mercenary groups like Black Water and go fight the FUCKIN' Corporate war! That little shit spot in the middle of the desert ain't worth one ounce of American blood anymore. Our soldiers were meant to protect our country and its citizens, not to be bogged down half way across the globe fighting an insurgency.

If you ask Iraqis...they want us out! I just agree with them...let's get out.
Most Iraqis Favor Immediate U.S. Pullout, Polls Show
Leaders' Views Out of Step With Public

By Amit R. Paley
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 27, 2006; Page A22

BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 -- A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01721.html


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Postby Napoleon Ier on Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:52 pm

your reference, esteemed Ron Paul supporter, escapes me? please do expound?
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