THIS IS A MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!

[Jehan]

thats like the worst name for a currency ive ever heard, amero's they really need to come up with something better. Btw what does US gain by joining with canada and mexico? or is the theory that they just want to create the one world government?

[Skittles!]

They gain extra population, money, resources, army, they don't have to worry about immigrants crossing the border, as there are no borders, they'll get to control 3 countries, 1 continent, as I'm sure most Presidents, or whatever they will call it, will be mostly American due to a lot of Americans not wanting a Mexican or Canadian leader...

[jay_a2j]

thats like the worst name for a currency ive ever heard, amero's they really need to come up with something better. Btw what does US gain by joining with canada and mexico? or is the theory that they just want to create the one world government?

One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.

[Guiscard]

One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.

Err... we have borders... Hate to burst your bubble, Jay, but you can't just wander across Europe passportless and unmolested.

[jay_a2j]

One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.

Err... we have borders... Hate to burst your bubble, Jay, but you can't just wander across Europe passportless and unmolested.

Give it time. Unmolested? You mean if you cross boarders you get molested?

[jay_a2j]

Did you watch the whole video??? The video is called Zeitgeist and it is pretty long, but interesting. It starts out explaining the myth of religion and then government and the central bank...it was really interesting.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=0

I really hate that family that had chips implanted in themselves and their kids...that is just way wacko! What in the heck were they thinking! Say good bye to your Constitutional Liberties...bye, bye!

I would really like 2dimes /JFC members to view this video and see what they think.

[Napoleon Ier]

One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.

Err... we have borders... Hate to burst your bubble, Jay, but you can't just wander across Europe passportless and unmolested.

The all engulfing totalitarian vehicle of the Antichrist that is the EU will further break down the last remnants of our national identity and traditional values. Centralizing jacobinism and mediatic lobotomization of the populace are leading us into a terrifying Orwellian world.
Goodbye rural Catholic France, of my childhood...

Guiscard just read up about the Schengen agreements: Yes you can.

[Guiscard]

One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.

Err... we have borders... Hate to burst your bubble, Jay, but you can't just wander across Europe passportless and unmolested.

The all engulfing totalitarian vehicle of the Antichrist that is the EU will further break down the last remnants of our national identity and traditional values. Centralizing jacobinism and mediatic lobotomization of the populace are leading us into a terrifying Orwellian world.
Goodbye rural Catholic France, of my childhood...

Guiscard just read up about the Schengen agreements: Yes you can.

10 for Rhetoric, 2 for content.

[Napoleon Ier]

One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.

Err... we have borders... Hate to burst your bubble, Jay, but you can't just wander across Europe passportless and unmolested.

The all engulfing totalitarian vehicle of the Antichrist that is the EU will further break down the last remnants of our national identity and traditional values. Centralizing jacobinism and mediatic lobotomization of the populace are leading us into a terrifying Orwellian world.
Goodbye rural Catholic France, of my childhood...

Guiscard just read up about the Schengen agreements: Yes you can.

10 for Rhetoric, 2 for content.

whats that out of now sir?

no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)

[Guiscard]

whats that out of now sir?

no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)

I know it is, and I think thats an improvement... I'm just pointing out the realities of the current situation to Jay.

[Napoleon Ier]

whats that out of now sir?

no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)

I know it is, and I think thats an improvement... I'm just pointing out the realities of the current situation to Jay.

no my point is that the reality is actually that the EU is borderless internally (and externally more or less)

[jay_a2j]

whats that out of now sir?

no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)

I know it is, and I think thats an improvement... I'm just pointing out the realities of the current situation to Jay.

??????? Sounds a lot like a contradiction to me! So, do you need a passport or not? Ya can't have it both ways.

[Guiscard]

whats that out of now sir?

no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)

I know it is, and I think thats an improvement... I'm just pointing out the realities of the current situation to Jay.

??????? Sounds a lot like a contradiction to me! So, do you need a passport or not? Ya can't have it both ways.

Yes. If you wanted to tour the EU, going to every country, take your passport.

[suggs]

Its cool havingsepearte counties in lossely tied federations, like the US...

[Dancing Mustard]

Nobody has quite explained to me how the notion of states combining into unified confedarcys automatically leads to reduced civil liberties. And while I don't like the idea of being 'chipped', I haven't heard how chipping would automatically lead to reduced civil liberties, only how it could potentially be used to do so.

Could anybody explain why doom and gloom is the automatic result of all of this random speculation? Or is that all this is?

[Napoleon Ier]

whats that out of now sir?

no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)

I know it is, and I think thats an improvement... I'm just pointing out the realities of the current situation to Jay.

??????? Sounds a lot like a contradiction to me! So, do you need a passport or not? Ya can't have it both ways.

eurofederasts are unable to do a huge amount other than "flip-flop" on issues, komildiz or as I believe they say over in America

no seriously, passport is necessary for every one of the 27, but the main ones, no:
source:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement[/url]

[Dancing Mustard]

Hang on a moment, doesn't the fact that you don't require a passport to cross a border mean that you have greater civil liberties than if you did require one? Perhaps this confederate of states isn't the boogeyman you'd have us believe?

[Napoleon Ier]

Hang on a moment, doesn't the fact that you don't require a passport to cross a border mean that you have greater civil liberties than if you did require one? Perhaps this confederate of states isn't the boogeyman you'd have us believe?

No, to the extent it takes away the right of a certain people to govern their own national territory and destiny, ultimatly. Built around cumulative historical tradition of people on a certain territory, the nation is an expression of their shared culture and should not be subjected to supra-national whims of an entity (EU) infeodated to apatride bolsho-socialist capital.

As for RFID chips, I am with you on that one.

[Dancing Mustard]

Very pretty. But open borders don't take away anybody's right to govern anything, nor do they subject anybody to supra-national whims. They just give people from neighbouring countries the right to walk across your territory, and you across theirs. Where's the erosion of liberty my man? I appreciate you've got a strong view on this, and that you like using superfulous long words; but you haven't actually answered my question. How do open borders restrict any individual's civil liberties?

[Napoleon Ier]

Well not so much civil as national. The removal of a nation state's primary means of control, its means of maintaining a form of homostasis to use a biological analogy, are removed from it. You should be able to regulate the flow of goods and people onto what is your land and your ancestors and childrens carefully.

[Dancing Mustard]

No, I'm afraid you lose again. The Schengen agreement doesn't let people settle on land, and it leaves a state with the right to eject foreign nationals should they prove troublesome; so a state can control its rates of immigration and eject disidents. It can control the flow of permanent settlers, and the flow of traded commodities; it can also control its population (permanent and temporary) with its right to eject foreign nationals. The agreement you are so vehemently opposed to simply means that crossing the borders of EU states is subject to decreased formalities; it doesn't deprive a nation of its rights to do anything. As such you still haven't proved to us that there's been an erosion of any state or person's national or personal liberties. Care to proceed?

[Norse]

I'll be honest here, that wasn't one of the "rockefeller's" in that picture, the americo is made up, and them quotes were falsified.

I'm ashamed that anyone who I would have thought would see through this is absolute falsified nonsense, so as to to discredit any truth in other video's, did not see this.

[Norse]

And you can't just "turn off" the particular kind of chips that they are talking about, which are practically the same as the chips on your masterCard, they are "stagnant" electronic devices, which are primarily used as keys to data-bases, and require no power supply to "turn off".

[jay_a2j]

I'll be honest here, that wasn't one of the "rockefeller's" in that picture, the americo is made up, and them quotes were falsified.

I'm ashamed that anyone who I would have thought would see through this is absolute falsified nonsense, so as to to discredit any truth in other video's, did not see this.

Did you see the Lou Dobbs segment on ABC about the NAU? Wow, the "made up" , "falsified" stuff made it all the way to prime time television!


Yeah, the Amero is made up!


Ooooh another "must watch"! It's not too late to wake up!

[Dancing Mustard]

No, I'm afraid you lose again. The Schengen agreement doesn't let people settle on land, and it leaves a state with the right to eject foreign nationals should they prove troublesome; so a state can control its rates of immigration and eject disidents. It can control the flow of permanent settlers, and the flow of traded commodities; it can also control its population (permanent and temporary) with its right to eject foreign nationals. The agreement you are so vehemently opposed to simply means that crossing the borders of EU states is subject to decreased formalities; it doesn't deprive a nation of its rights to do anything. As such you still haven't proved to us that there's been an erosion of any state or person's national or personal liberties. Care to proceed?

I'm impressed that I wrote so coherently while battered.

Recognise. Genuflect. Behold.