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Postby jnd94 on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:43 pm

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Postby duday53 on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:43 pm

b.k. barunt wrote:Why should taxpayers have to pay for birth control? If a girl gets pregnant at such a young age, kill her.


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I was going to say to let some girl get pregnant and let her go around and tell people how bad and uncool it was.
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Postby radiojake on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:43 pm

Giving girls the pill isn't giving permission for them to have sex.

Obviously the school has done some research, and if their results found that 6th to 8th grade girls are having sex, well atleast they're trying to stop them getting pregnant, because then it really is fucked up. (also, agreed, 11 year olds having sex is fucked up as it is, but atleast this way pregnancy can be removed from the equation)


I'm only 23, so i was 6th grade 12 years ago, and there was no way that i was even getting close to even contemplating having sex (we did have sex education in that year though, which i think is fine) - is it just me or are kids doing shit way earlier these days?

I think two things are contributing (amongst others)

Media advertising and manipulation:- selling sex with EVERYTHING and sluts like paris/britney etc who send a pretty demeaning message to young girls "sleep with people to get ahead/noticed"

Also eating hormone fed chicken. f*ck, I was over a mates house the other week and his younger sister was there. I thought from first looks that she was a very quickly developed 15 or 16 year old (but still had a young looking face) - SHE WAS ONLY 11!!!

but eh.. kids are growing up way quicker in all respects. Mobile phones for 13 year olds? Why??
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:49 pm

radiojake wrote:Giving girls the pill isn't giving permission for them to have sex.

Obviously the school has done some research, and if their results found that 6th to 8th grade girls are having sex, well atleast they're trying to stop them getting pregnant, because then it really is fucked up. (also, agreed, 11 year olds having sex is fucked up as it is, but atleast this way pregnancy can be removed from the equation)


I'm only 23, so i was 6th grade 12 years ago, and there was no way that i was even getting close to even contemplating having sex (we did have sex education in that year though, which i think is fine) - is it just me or are kids doing shit way earlier these days?

I think two things are contributing (amongst others)

Media advertising and manipulation:- selling sex with EVERYTHING and sluts like paris/britney etc who send a pretty demeaning message to young girls "sleep with people to get ahead/noticed"

Also eating hormone fed chicken. f*ck, I was over a mates house the other week and his younger sister was there. I thought from first looks that she was a very quickly developed 15 or 16 year old (but still had a young looking face) - SHE WAS ONLY 11!!!

but eh.. kids are growing up way quicker in all respects. Mobile phones for 13 year olds? Why??
13? I've seen 8 year olds with them! Not to mention I've seen little kids wear what I would expect sluts to wear. :x

I was in the 6th grade about 7 years ago BTW.
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:49 pm

radiojake wrote: Also eating hormone fed chicken. f*ck, I was over a mates house the other week and his younger sister was there. I thought from first looks that she was a very quickly developed 15 or 16 year old (but still had a young looking face) - SHE WAS ONLY 11!!!

but eh.. kids are growing up way quicker in all respects. Mobile phones for 13 year olds? Why??


great point.


what do children eat? they eat lots of cereal.

Cows are pumped up with steriods to get bigger and estrogen to produce more milk and anti-biotics. I read that 50 years ago a cow gave out about X amount of milk a week and now its 1,000 times more and the weight of cows has tripled.

so... girls and boys are getting pumped full of harmones that change their bodies and brain function, and I agree, Ive scene very young women who look early 20s.
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Postby jay_a2j on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:50 pm

got tonkaed wrote:To every single poster who has basically said oh my how can they do that.

What would you prefer, they give out birth control in cases where it may be needed, as discreetly as possible

or

6th to 8th graders keep getting pregnant and as some are, leading to all the complications that arise from it.

Its the schools trying to take responsibility for an issue that is increasingly getting out of hand.



You don't tell your kids, its wrong to shoot people when you get mad at them, then hand them a loaded gun...."just in case". :roll:
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:51 pm

This is what shotgun weddings are for then.
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Postby jay_a2j on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:54 pm

The day any of my daughters come home with birth control they got from school.... all hell is gonna break loose.
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:55 pm

jay_a2j wrote:The day any of my daughters come home with birth control they got from school.... all hell is gonna break loose.


like I said, your insane for putting them in the public school system to begin with.

and thats why Ron Paul is the one.
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Postby duday53 on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:57 pm

I am in grade eight and well....It is going on but girls arent that stupid.
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Postby radiojake on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:57 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:To every single poster who has basically said oh my how can they do that.

What would you prefer, they give out birth control in cases where it may be needed, as discreetly as possible

or

6th to 8th graders keep getting pregnant and as some are, leading to all the complications that arise from it.

Its the schools trying to take responsibility for an issue that is increasingly getting out of hand.



You don't tell your kids, its wrong to shoot people when you get mad at them, then hand them a loaded gun...."just in case". :roll:



I see your point, Jay, but it's not quite the same

They're not giving out the pill so girls can now go and have sex, they're giving it out because they already are

Atleast make sure they don't get fucking pregnant

And in the meantime society can maybe stop being so misogynist and then maybe girls wont feel like they're only worth is through sex - and don't try telling me this isn't the case. Just look at any billboard in the next couple of days, there will be atleast a couple with women in their underwear
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Postby radiojake on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:59 pm

jay_a2j wrote:The day any of my daughters come home with birth control they got from school.... all hell is gonna break loose.


You'd rather them be pregnant?

As long as you teach them to have self-respect you shouldn't have to worry anyway
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Postby got tonkaed on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:59 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:To every single poster who has basically said oh my how can they do that.

What would you prefer, they give out birth control in cases where it may be needed, as discreetly as possible

or

6th to 8th graders keep getting pregnant and as some are, leading to all the complications that arise from it.

Its the schools trying to take responsibility for an issue that is increasingly getting out of hand.



You don't tell your kids, its wrong to shoot people when you get mad at them, then hand them a loaded gun...."just in case". :roll:


see jay this is where my worldview is infinitely preferable to yours (just kidding of course)

i am a mental giant enough to be able to see that theres no need for an analogy here, and me being the crazy big gov wacko i am, when i see the parental social unit is not getting out info. and regrettably birth control when it needs to be done, i want some other social institution to protect those people.

Shortsightedness and rigid views only cause more people to fall through the cracks like this.
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:04 pm

also im guessing that most of you are middle class white trash or upper white trash areas so to speak.

try fixing the school systems in the "hood" areas and you will get a rude awakening.
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Postby got tonkaed on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:05 pm

xtratabasco wrote:also im guessing that most of you are middle class white trash so to speak.

try fixing the school systems in the "hood" areas and you will get a rude awakening.


trying to fix anything, anywhere economic segregation occurs is pretty difficult to do.
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Postby freezie on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:07 pm

I don't see any problems with birth control beeing handed out to those who actually are involved in sexual relations that young.

The main problem is those getting pregnants, so the main problem is beeing taken cared of.

If they are actually responsible..Well, even if they should wait...At least they are doing it safely that way.

It's a step in the right direction.
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Postby Avron on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:13 pm

bedub1 wrote:A school district in Maine - United States has started offering birth control, mainly "the pill" to students in 6th through 8th grades, and will not be required to tell the parents about it.

I live here in the US...but sooo many of these people are fucked up in the head that I just want to get out.

Where should I move to? Should these children be on birth control? Should the school be forced to tell the parents about it?



HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

Where the f*ck did you hear your story?

The only fucking kids that use the schools program have their god damn parents permission. This became big when the parents who didn't know about it found out about it. There kids where not allowed to use the program.
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Postby Gold Knight on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:14 pm

Damn, they are getting them for free? How come I still have to pay for them not to get pregnant?!?! :D
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Re: Children having sex

Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:15 pm

Avron wrote:
bedub1 wrote:A school district in Maine - United States has started offering birth control, mainly "the pill" to students in 6th through 8th grades, and will not be required to tell the parents about it.

I live here in the US...but sooo many of these people are fucked up in the head that I just want to get out.

Where should I move to? Should these children be on birth control? Should the school be forced to tell the parents about it?



HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

Where the f*ck did you hear your story?

The only fucking kids that use the schools program have their god damn parents permission. This became big when the parents who didn't know about it found out about it. There kids where not allowed to use the program.



dude, this story is last months news.

where in the f*ck do you get yours?






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Postby misterman10 on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:15 pm

Gold Knight wrote:Damn, they are getting them for free? How come I still have to pay for them not to get pregnant?!?! :D
Yet you still made my mom pregnant :x
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Postby Backglass on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:16 pm

Has anyone actually read the news about this?

"As it stands, children need parental permission to be treated at the clinic at King Middle School. Once at the clinic, however, state law allows the students to receive confidential care for reproductive health, mental health and substance abuse issues."
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In other words, medically speaking this is no different that the parents taking a girl to a private Doctor or Therapist. They aren't just handing them out in the hallways and saying "Go have sex kids!" :roll:

The greater question is why is a tax payer funded middle school is dispensing ANY medication regardless of what it is. Moral implications aside, I shouldn't have to pay for someones else kids medications...antibiotics, cough medicine OR contraceptives.
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:18 pm

Backglass wrote:Has anyone actually read the news about this?

"As it stands, children need parental permission to be treated at the clinic at King Middle School. Once at the clinic, however, state law allows the students to receive confidential care for reproductive health, mental health and substance abuse issues."
LINK

In other words, medically speaking this is no different that the parents taking a girl to a private Doctor or Therapist. They aren't just handing them out in the hallways and saying "Go have sex kids!" :roll:

The greater question is why is a tax payer funded middle school dispensing ANY medication at all regardless of what it is? Regardless of the moral implications, I shouldn't have to pay for someones else kids medications...antibiotics, cough medicine OR contraceptives.




cool

your for Ron Paul then. :D
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Postby Gold Knight on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:18 pm

misterman10 wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:Damn, they are getting them for free? How come I still have to pay for them not to get pregnant?!?! :D
Yet you still made my mom pregnant :x


Thats, my friend, was no accident :twisted:
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Postby Coleman on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:19 pm

If this was in my state I'd demand my children bring me contraceptives.

If they ask why I'll tell them that they are why... :x
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Postby Backglass on Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:20 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
Backglass wrote:Has anyone actually read the news about this?

"As it stands, children need parental permission to be treated at the clinic at King Middle School. Once at the clinic, however, state law allows the students to receive confidential care for reproductive health, mental health and substance abuse issues."
LINK

In other words, medically speaking this is no different that the parents taking a girl to a private Doctor or Therapist. They aren't just handing them out in the hallways and saying "Go have sex kids!" :roll:

The greater question is why is a tax payer funded middle school dispensing ANY medication at all regardless of what it is? Regardless of the moral implications, I shouldn't have to pay for someones else kids medications...antibiotics, cough medicine OR contraceptives.




cool

your for Ron Paul then. :D


Actually he doesnt look bad on paper. I do not agree with his stone age view of abortion and stem cell research however.
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