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Postby 0ojakeo0 on Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:54 pm

unriggable wrote:
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Titanic wrote:One day you'll realize that your constitution is out of date.
Random? Still bitter about our breaking away and becoming better then your country? :lol:

Are you stupid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_b ... of_America

How was that random, and how the HELL is the US better than Britain?


Nobody goes to britain for a better life

1. BS
2. As you can see, this "better life" certainly isn't so great, getting their children killed and such...


Noone was killed. Its not like America did this. The kid shot thepeople

So you're saying that in America, kids just shoot people BUT AMERICA ISN'T TO BLAME!... Even though it happened in America...



You act like we can do something about this. The people are here and kids and pretty much anyone can get there hands on a gun.. anywhere. But your right lets blame the whole country for one kid doing something


The kid got a gun from somewhere, because the laws let his parents get a firearm and they kept it in the open. Other countries don't have nearly as big a problem controlling firearms.


I know, i get what you guys are saying but noone says that it was the parents gun. People are gonna get guns but i agree with you we could do better to stop more but were not gonna stop ALL the guns.


The kid was fourteen. It was the parents gun. Nobody of that age has connections.
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Postby hecter on Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:55 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
Coleman wrote:
Titanic wrote:One day you'll realize that your constitution is out of date.
Random? Still bitter about our breaking away and becoming better then your country? :lol:

Are you stupid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_b ... of_America

How was that random, and how the HELL is the US better than Britain?


Nobody goes to britain for a better life

1. BS
2. As you can see, this "better life" certainly isn't so great, getting their children killed and such...


Noone was killed. Its not like America did this. The kid shot thepeople

So you're saying that in America, kids just shoot people BUT AMERICA ISN'T TO BLAME!... Even though it happened in America...



You act like we can do something about this. The people are here and kids and pretty much anyone can get there hands on a gun.. anywhere. But your right lets blame the whole country for one kid doing something


The kid got a gun from somewhere, because the laws let his parents get a firearm and they kept it in the open. Other countries don't have nearly as big a problem controlling firearms.


I know, i get what you guys are saying but noone says that it was the parents gun. People are gonna get guns but i agree with you we could do better to stop more but were not gonna stop ALL the guns.

Guess what? You don't HAVE to stop all the guns! But there should be much stricter laws about getting a gun, and children certainly shouldn't have access to them! If a parent is going to keep their gun in a place that the child will be able to get at it, then the parent shouldn't be able to own a gun! As unrig said, nobody at 14 has connections. It was the parents gun.
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Postby jnd94 on Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:55 pm

More news: His name is Asa Coon, ad people described him as "gothic", usually wearing a trench coat, black boots, and a dog collar. :?
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Postby unriggable on Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:57 pm

The fact that so few school shootings happen outside the US shows how firearms are not a necessity for a stable country. The US is responsible for an absurd number of gun-related deaths, namely accidental shootings, school shootings and suicides, and the root of this violence is the availability of weapons. There are five states in the US where gun shops are more prominent than Gas stations.
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Postby Titanic on Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:58 pm

unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
Coleman wrote:
Titanic wrote:One day you'll realize that your constitution is out of date.
Random? Still bitter about our breaking away and becoming better then your country? :lol:

Are you stupid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_b ... of_America

How was that random, and how the HELL is the US better than Britain?


Nobody goes to britain for a better life

1. BS
2. As you can see, this "better life" certainly isn't so great, getting their children killed and such...


Noone was killed. Its not like America did this. The kid shot thepeople

So you're saying that in America, kids just shoot people BUT AMERICA ISN'T TO BLAME!... Even though it happened in America...



You act like we can do something about this. The people are here and kids and pretty much anyone can get there hands on a gun.. anywhere. But your right lets blame the whole country for one kid doing something


The kid got a gun from somewhere, because the laws let his parents get a firearm and they kept it in the open. Other countries don't have nearly as big a problem controlling firearms.


I know, i get what you guys are saying but noone says that it was the parents gun. People are gonna get guns but i agree with you we could do better to stop more but were not gonna stop ALL the guns.


The kid was fourteen. It was the parents gun. Nobody of that age has connections.


Obviously it is Americas fault that all these shooting happened, thats why I said your constitution (or w/e it is which legalises guns) is out of date.

America has over 10,000 firearm homocides a year. We had about 20 this year and there was a huge uproar about this gun culture. It is the governemnt and the laws and rules which create all of these murders, and school schootings etc...

"The people are here and kids and pretty much anyone can get there hands on a gun.. anywhere." - This is exactly what is wrong, Im nto too sure why you said it, but thanks.

"But your right lets blame the whole country for one kid doing something" - One kid? This is the 19th or 20th shooting in an educations building in America in the past decade. Also, remember VT massacre? That was fairly recent, over 30 people killed by another kid.
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Postby 0ojakeo0 on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:03 pm

Also, remember VT massacre? That was fairly recent, over 30 people killed by another kid.
If everything happened by the law that WOULDNT have happened. He had a mental problem and the law prohibits them to own a gun. But ONE PERSON sold him a gun when he wasnt supposed to
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Postby hecter on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:05 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:
Also, remember VT massacre? That was fairly recent, over 30 people killed by another kid.
If everything happened by the law that WOULDNT have happened. He had a mental problem and the law prohibits them to own a gun. But ONE PERSON sold him a gun when he wasnt supposed to

So your gun sellers are inept and shouldn't be selling them in the first place.
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Postby unriggable on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:07 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:
Also, remember VT massacre? That was fairly recent, over 30 people killed by another kid.
If everything happened by the law that WOULDNT have happened. He had a mental problem and the law prohibits them to own a gun. But ONE PERSON sold him a gun when he wasnt supposed to


What the kid did was perfectly legal, which is the frightening part of the situation. The only law he broke was the killing.

If the laws are a little less transparent maybe a mental test should be required. But they're not, thanks to our laws.

BTW Bill of Rights was written when it took twenty seconds to load a gun. I don't think our founding fathers would be too proud of what the country has come to.
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Postby 0ojakeo0 on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:10 pm

unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
Also, remember VT massacre? That was fairly recent, over 30 people killed by another kid.
If everything happened by the law that WOULDNT have happened. He had a mental problem and the law prohibits them to own a gun. But ONE PERSON sold him a gun when he wasnt supposed to


What the kid did was perfectly legal, which is the frightening part of the situation. The only law he broke was the killing.

If the laws are a little less transparent maybe a mental test should be required. But they're not, thanks to our laws.

BTW Bill of Rights was written when it took twenty seconds to load a gun. I don't think our founding fathers would be too proud of what the country has come to.


He wasnt supposed to be able to buy the gun.
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Postby unriggable on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:14 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
Also, remember VT massacre? That was fairly recent, over 30 people killed by another kid.
If everything happened by the law that WOULDNT have happened. He had a mental problem and the law prohibits them to own a gun. But ONE PERSON sold him a gun when he wasnt supposed to


What the kid did was perfectly legal, which is the frightening part of the situation. The only law he broke was the killing.

If the laws are a little less transparent maybe a mental test should be required. But they're not, thanks to our laws.

BTW Bill of Rights was written when it took twenty seconds to load a gun. I don't think our founding fathers would be too proud of what the country has come to.


He wasnt supposed to be able to buy the gun.


Really. Actual text below is right from the book.

The 1993 Virginia General Assembly amended and reenacted §18.2-308.2:2, Code of Virginia, making it unlawful for any person who is not a licensed firearms dealer to purchase more than 1 handgun within any 30-day period. The Virginia State Police is responsible for accepting and processing the Multiple Handgun Purchase Application and Multiple Handgun Purchase Certificate, when purchases in excess of one handgun within a 30-day period can be justified.

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A person who answers "yes" to any of the below questions may be prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm pursuant to state and/or federal law.

1. Are you under indictment for a felony offense?
2. Have you ever been convicted, as an adult, in any court of a felony offense?
3. If you are 28 years old or younger, have you ever been adjudicated delinquent as a juvenile 14 years of age or older at the time of offense of a delinquent act, which would be a felony if committed by an adult?
4. Were you adjudicated delinquent on or after July 1, 2005, as a juvenile 14 years of age or older at the time of the offense of murder in violation of § 18.2-31 or 18.2-32, kidnapping in violation of § 18.2-47, robbery by the threat or presentation of firearms in violation of § 18.2-58, or rape in violation of § 18.2-61? (If adjudicated as a delinquent after July 1, 2005 for these offenses, you must answer yes. You are ineligible regardless of you current age and prohibited for life unless allowed by restoration of rights by the Governor of Virginia and order of the circuit court in the jurisdiction in which you reside.)
5. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime punishable by more than 2 years even if the maximum punishment was not received?
6. Is there an outstanding protective or restraining order against you from any court?
7. Is there an outstanding felony or misdemeanor warrant of arrest pending against you from any jurisdiction?
8. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana, or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any controlled substance? The Federal Gun Control Act defines an addicted person, or unlawful user, as a person who has a conviction for use or possession of a controlled substance within the past year or persons found through a drug test to use a controlled substance unlawfully, provided that the test was administered within the past year.
9. Have you ever been adjudicated legally incompetent, mentally incapacitated, or been involuntarily committed to a mental institution?
10. Have you been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable discharge?
11. Are you an alien illegally in the United States?
12. Are you a nonimmigrant alien? A nonimmigrant alien is prohibited from receiving a firearm unless he or she falls within an exception to the nonimmigrant alien prohibition (e.g., hunting license/permit; waiver).
13. Are you a person who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced your citizenship?
14. Have you ever been convicted for the misdemeanor crime of domestic violence? This includes all misdemeanors that involve the use, threat of, or attempted use of physical force (e.g., simple assault, assault and battery) if the offense is committed by one of the following parties: a current or former spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the victim as a spouse, parent or guardian, or by a person similarly situated to a spouse, parent or guardian of the victim.
15. Have you purchased a handgun from any source within the last 30 days? (Handgun Purchases Only) Virginia Code Section 18.2-208.2:2 (P) provides exceptions to the handgun purchase restriction.
16. Are you a person who, within a 36 consecutive month period, has been convicted, under Virginia law, of 2 misdemeanor offenses for Possession of Controlled Substance or Possession of Marijuana? (Handgun Purchases Only)

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He passed all these tests.
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Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:16 pm

jnd94 wrote:More news: His name is Asa Coon, ad people described him as "gothic", usually wearing a trench coat, black boots, and a dog collar. :?
Tee hee, 'coon'



Ok ok, on topic and being deadly serious [size=0]business[/size]for just one moment:
If I had a name that sucky I'd probably shoot some people too.
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Postby fireedud on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:20 pm

hecter wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
Coleman wrote:
Titanic wrote:One day you'll realize that your constitution is out of date.
Random? Still bitter about our breaking away and becoming better then your country? :lol:

Are you stupid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_b ... of_America

How was that random, and how the HELL is the US better than Britain?


Nobody goes to britain for a better life

1. BS
2. As you can see, this "better life" certainly isn't so great, getting their children killed and such...


Noone was killed. Its not like America did this. The kid shot thepeople

So you're saying that in America, kids just shoot people BUT AMERICA ISN'T TO BLAME!... Even though it happened in America...


The country is only the land on which people decide to make boundaries, land cannot shoot people.
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Postby 0ojakeo0 on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:20 pm

unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
Also, remember VT massacre? That was fairly recent, over 30 people killed by another kid.
If everything happened by the law that WOULDNT have happened. He had a mental problem and the law prohibits them to own a gun. But ONE PERSON sold him a gun when he wasnt supposed to


What the kid did was perfectly legal, which is the frightening part of the situation. The only law he broke was the killing.

If the laws are a little less transparent maybe a mental test should be required. But they're not, thanks to our laws.

BTW Bill of Rights was written when it took twenty seconds to load a gun. I don't think our founding fathers would be too proud of what the country has come to.


He wasnt supposed to be able to buy the gun.


9. Have you ever been adjudicated legally incompetent, mentally incapacitated, or been involuntarily committed to a mental institution?
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Postby hecter on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:24 pm

fireedud wrote:
hecter wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
hecter wrote:
Coleman wrote:
Titanic wrote:One day you'll realize that your constitution is out of date.
Random? Still bitter about our breaking away and becoming better then your country? :lol:

Are you stupid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_b ... of_America

How was that random, and how the HELL is the US better than Britain?


Nobody goes to britain for a better life

1. BS
2. As you can see, this "better life" certainly isn't so great, getting their children killed and such...


Noone was killed. Its not like America did this. The kid shot thepeople

So you're saying that in America, kids just shoot people BUT AMERICA ISN'T TO BLAME!... Even though it happened in America...


The country is only the land on which people decide to make boundaries, land cannot shoot people.

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Postby unriggable on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:26 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
Also, remember VT massacre? That was fairly recent, over 30 people killed by another kid.
If everything happened by the law that WOULDNT have happened. He had a mental problem and the law prohibits them to own a gun. But ONE PERSON sold him a gun when he wasnt supposed to


What the kid did was perfectly legal, which is the frightening part of the situation. The only law he broke was the killing.

If the laws are a little less transparent maybe a mental test should be required. But they're not, thanks to our laws.

BTW Bill of Rights was written when it took twenty seconds to load a gun. I don't think our founding fathers would be too proud of what the country has come to.


He wasnt supposed to be able to buy the gun.


9. Have you ever been adjudicated legally incompetent, mentally incapacitated, or been involuntarily committed to a mental institution?


"Cho was a South Korean national who had permanent resident status in the United States, where he arrived at a young age with his family. Cho had been diagnosed with and treated for a severe anxiety disorder beginning in middle school, and he continued receiving therapy and special education support until his junior year of high school. During Cho's last two years at Virginia Tech, several incidences of his aberrant behavior, as well as plays and other writings that he submitted which contained references to violence and profanity, caused concerns among teachers and classmates."

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in·ca·pac·i·tate /ˌɪnkəˈpæsɪˌteɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-kuh-pas-i-teyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -tat·ed, -tat·ing.
1. to deprive of ability, qualification, or strength; make incapable or unfit; disable.
2. Law. to deprive of the legal power to act in a specified way or ways.

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in·com·pe·tent /ɪnˈkɒmpɪtənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-kom-pi-tuhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. not competent; lacking qualification or ability; incapable: an incompetent candidate.
2. characterized by or showing incompetence: His incompetent acting ruined the play.
3. Law.
a. being unable or legally unqualified to perform specified acts or to be held legally responsible for such acts.

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IE, a vegetable.

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CONCLUSION He was not any of those things, he was fully able to legally buy a gun.
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Postby 0ojakeo0 on Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:34 pm

Alright i guess ur right then it should be stricter, but it did sound like he was mentally ill.
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Postby unriggable on Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:26 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:Alright i guess ur right then it should be stricter, but it did sound like he was mentally ill.


But its so easy to avoid those mental institutions that they really don't matter in acquiring a gun.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:39 pm

jnd94 wrote:More news: His name is Asa Coon, ad people described him as "gothic", usually wearing a trench coat, black boots, and a dog collar. :?


My point is proven even more...

Kid from a broken home.
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Postby unriggable on Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:49 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
jnd94 wrote:More news: His name is Asa Coon, ad people described him as "gothic", usually wearing a trench coat, black boots, and a dog collar. :?


My point is proven even more...

Kid from a broken home.


Wasn't he from south korea, not the US?
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Postby s.xkitten on Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:59 pm

STOP, ALL OF YOU...NOW...THIS IS NOT A DEBATE ON GUN CONTROL...YOU WANT TO DEBATE THAT, MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT...THIS IS ABOUT DISCUSSING THE LATEST SHOOTING.


my god, you all are retards.
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Postby fireedud on Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:04 pm

s.xkitten wrote:RAWR!


my god, you all are retards.
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Postby unriggable on Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:17 pm

fireedud wrote:
s.xkitten wrote:RAWR!


my god, you all are retards.


Yeah, sometimes I wonder why a kitten barks.
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Postby s.xkitten on Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:18 pm

unriggable wrote:
fireedud wrote:
s.xkitten wrote:RAWR!


my god, you all are retards.


Yeah, sometimes I wonder why a kitten barks.


that was not a bark...

that was a hiss...or perhaps a growl...

most definately an order...
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:19 pm

unriggable wrote:
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s.xkitten wrote:RAWR!


my god, you all are retards.


Yeah, sometimes I wonder why a kitten barks.
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Postby Skittles! on Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:43 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
jnd94 wrote:More news: His name is Asa Coon, ad people described him as "gothic", usually wearing a trench coat, black boots, and a dog collar. :?


My point is proven even more...

Kid from a broken home.

So, by your reasoning AD, anyone that dresses "gothic" comes from a "broken home"?
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