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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:17 pm

jimboston wrote:Einstein qualifies as he became an American Citizen in 1940 after fleeing Germany.

Chief Joseph would be considered ā€œNative Americanā€ by today’s standards…but he would NOT have considered himself ā€œAmericanā€.

Idiots be idiots.


Just out of curiosity I looked up Einstein's citizenship, because I couldn't remember if he was Swiss or German. Turned out both are true.

The full story is rather intricate. https://artsandculture.google.com/story/albert-einstein-german-swiss-and-american-einstein-archive/4QWRAvk1sh4A8A?hl=en

He was born German, renounced his citizenship, was stateless for five years, then took on Swiss citizenship.

Thereafter he applied for Austrian citizenship (in order to be allowed to teach in Prague) but although it was granted, he never completed the final step of swearing-in.

From 1922 to 1935 he several times changed his story about being German depending on circumstances at the time. He travelled for a while on a German diplomatic passport until finally renouncing his German citizenship for the second and final time. Thereafter he applied for and was eventually granted American citizenship. However, he never renounced the Swiss, and travelled on his Swiss passport until the end of his life.

Wikipedia divides his German claims into four different eras, so counting those separately it's eight different citizenships (four times German, stateless, Swiss, Austrian, and American) but even if you take out the fine nuance and only count two basic periods of German citizenship, and then discount the Austrian one that was never finalized, that's still five different citizenships.

The Swiss one was the one he used most often and most consistently, though. I really wouldn't think of him as an American.
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby KoolBak on Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:34 pm

Like Neil Young.

A Canadian in American clothing that he hates but must endure :lol:
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:40 pm

KoolBak wrote:Like Neil Young.

A Canadian in American clothing that he hates but must endure :lol:


Which reminds me....

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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:28 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
jimboston wrote:Einstein qualifies as he became an American Citizen in 1940 after fleeing Germany.

Chief Joseph would be considered ā€œNative Americanā€ by today’s standards…but he would NOT have considered himself ā€œAmericanā€.

Idiots be idiots.


Just out of curiosity I looked up Einstein's citizenship, because I couldn't remember if he was Swiss or German. Turned out both are true.

The full story is rather intricate. https://artsandculture.google.com/story/albert-einstein-german-swiss-and-american-einstein-archive/4QWRAvk1sh4A8A?hl=en

He was born German, renounced his citizenship, was stateless for five years, then took on Swiss citizenship.

Thereafter he applied for Austrian citizenship (in order to be allowed to teach in Prague) but although it was granted, he never completed the final step of swearing-in.

From 1922 to 1935 he several times changed his story about being German depending on circumstances at the time. He travelled for a while on a German diplomatic passport until finally renouncing his German citizenship for the second and final time. Thereafter he applied for and was eventually granted American citizenship. However, he never renounced the Swiss, and travelled on his Swiss passport until the end of his life.

Wikipedia divides his German claims into four different eras, so counting those separately it's eight different citizenships (four times German, stateless, Swiss, Austrian, and American) but even if you take out the fine nuance and only count two basic periods of German citizenship, and then discount the Austrian one that was never finalized, that's still five different citizenships.

The Swiss one was the one he used most often and most consistently, though. I really wouldn't think of him as an American.


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Einstein accepting US citizenship certificate from judge Phillip Forman
Einstein became an American citizen in 1940. Not long after settling into his career at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey, he expressed his appreciation of the meritocracy in American culture compared to Europe. He recognized the "right of individuals to say and think what they pleased" without social barriers. As a result, individuals were encouraged, he said, to be more creative, a trait he valued from his early education.[156]

Einstein joined the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) in Princeton, where he campaigned for the civil rights of African Americans. He considered racism America's "worst disease",[129][157] seeing it as "handed down from one generation to the next".[158] As part of his involvement, he corresponded with civil rights activist W. E. B. Du Bois and was prepared to testify on his behalf during his trial in 1951.[159] When Einstein offered to be a character witness for Du Bois, the judge decided to drop the case.[160]
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:55 pm

and JP4 hops in with a link to ā€œproveā€ what I and Duk just said.

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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:02 pm

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BOTH

Christopher Reeve… born in NYC.

Superman… AKA Clark Kent… born on the distant planet of Krypton but adopted by Americans.

Truth, Justice, and the American Way!
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby mookiemcgee on Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:30 pm

jimboston wrote:Image

BOTH

Christopher Reeve… born in NYC.

Superman… AKA Clark Kent… born on the distant planet of Krypton but adopted by Americans.

Truth, Justice, and the American Way!




hmmmm... I'll give you credit for reeve's

as far as sups goes, while he was a 'considered' a US citizen at some point during his life, he ultimately renounced his US citizenship. It's also debatable if he was truly a legal citizen as Clark Kent early in life. If a couple were to fill out citizenship papers for the dog, and were somehow granted it... that doesn't mean it's legal as citizenship under US law can ONLY be granted to humans (which he was not). He's been granted honorary citizenship in every member nation of the United Nations which he still holds, with the exception of USA.

If we are giving credit to Einstein who only became a US citizen late in life, then we also have to remove Superman from the list for renouncing it late in life.

I trust JP will cut and paste from wikipedia in the coming days to confirm.
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:45 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:Image

BOTH

Christopher Reeve… born in NYC.

Superman… AKA Clark Kent… born on the distant planet of Krypton but adopted by Americans.

Truth, Justice, and the American Way!




hmmmm... I'll give you credit for reeve's

as far as sups goes, while he was a 'considered' a US citizen at some point during his life, he ultimately renounced his US citizenship. It's also debatable if he was truly a legal citizen as Clark Kent early in life. If a couple were to fill out citizenship papers for the dog, and were somehow granted it... that doesn't mean it's legal as citizenship under US law can ONLY be granted to humans (which he was not). He's been granted honorary citizenship in every member nation of the United Nations which he still holds, with the exception of USA.

If we are giving credit to Einstein who only became a US citizen late in life, then we also have to remove Superman from the list for renouncing it late in life.

I trust JP will cut and paste from wikipedia in the coming days to confirm.


The citizenship of a fictional character? REALLY?
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:48 pm

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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:26 am

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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby jimboston on Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:24 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:as far as sups goes, while he was a 'considered' a US citizen at some point during his life, he ultimately renounced his US citizenship. It's also debatable if he was truly a legal citizen as Clark Kent early in life. If a couple were to fill out citizenship papers for the dog, and were somehow granted it... that doesn't mean it's legal as citizenship under US law can ONLY be granted to humans (which he was not). He's been granted honorary citizenship in every member nation of the United Nations which he still holds, with the exception of USA.

If we are giving credit to Einstein who only became a US citizen late in life, then we also have to remove Superman from the list for renouncing it late in life.

I trust JP will cut and paste from wikipedia in the coming days to confirm.


Listen… the comics reboots and has a ā€œcrisisā€ every few years.

I’m sticking with olde skool cannon. He’s as American as Apple Pie.

Truth, Justice, and the American Way!

None of this BS/PC ā€œTruth, Justice, and Peace for All Mankindā€ bullshit.
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:43 pm

jimb = cannon fodder
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:40 pm

This thread is missing photos of me. The greatest.
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby KoolBak on Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:40 pm

Want me to post some? Got those pimporiffic ones.... :lol:
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:07 pm

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Thanks Hitred for breaking the ice and including a female, I also wanted to contribute to what was an otherwise very sexist thread.
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:22 pm

I'm not HitRed but you're welcome.
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:26 am

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My bad... I thought it looked like a women but didn't recognize them, and then I read 'George Rinhart' and was like oh, I guess it's a dude after all.

I realize now that is the photographers name, but you really gotta dumb it down for some of us here. I fucked this up, and I'm def in the top 20% brainpower of the 'practical explanation about next life' forums regular posters.

I tin-eye'd your image to discover it's Bessie Coleman, cool!
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:34 am

Sowwy. I didn't want to post a picture with the credit part.
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:59 am

Maybe the most important American you've probably never heard of...

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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:01 am

KoolBak wrote:Want me to post some? Got those pimporiffic ones.... :lol:

Sure! Show them that I run this town!
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby jimboston on Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:31 am

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Another 2Fer of Great Americans

and a woman to be PC

Melissa Benoist & Supergirl
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:41 pm

jimboston wrote:Image

Another 2Fer of Great Americans

and a woman to be PC

Melissa Benoist & Supergirl



Kara Danvers legal status is not an open question the way Clark Kents is. From Issue 1 of 'Super Family Story' she's been written as an illegal alien living in America. (pun + double entendre fully intended)

respect the canon

something something Jim's wife's boyfriend something something.
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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

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Re: Greatest American(s) in photos!

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