Trump 100% Stole "classified nuclear documents"

[saxitoxin]

… oh and yeah… you know what. they did find a lot of documents that shouldn’t have been in his possession.
Imagine that.

Green true. Red false.

The MSM, who have become mere scribes of the Secret Police who dutifully publish its leaks verbatim to keep their access flowing, would have people believe that the President needs to get permission from his own civil servants to declassify something. Nothing is further from the truth. All classification authority flows from the body of the President. This somewhat common sense position is affirmed in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan. [https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/484/518/] Scholars agree Trump had total declassification authority of anything and everything up until 12 p.m. on January 21, 2021.

Ashley Deeks, a law professor at the University of Virginia who until recently was deputy legal adviser to the National Security Council, said the laws and practices regarding classified information place a president in a somewhat unique position.

“Because the president himself is the ultimate classifying authority, it makes sense that agencies do not formally read presidents in to classified programs,” Deeks said. “In terms of former presidents, Congress itself has recognized in statute that former presidents would still have access to at least some of their records, though Congress also has made clear that former presidents do not own those records personally.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ied-legal/

The reason there was a sudden rush by the FBI to grab the documents is because Trump had threatened to publish them three weeks prior.

https://www.justsecurity.org/82723/trum ... documents/

One FBI staffer -- Kevin Clinesmith -- has already been convicted of falsifying evidence in regard to the Russiagate hoax. That's an absolute and undisputable fact. They're trying to save their bacon.

[mookiemcgee]

Saxi's claim : The gov't is using a story they read on Breitbart as justification for the search

Saxi's source for the claim - former editor of Breitbart, a self described "far right nationalist' who was once almost banned entirely from entering Australia due to his vocal bigotry.

UHHHH ... that's the FBI's source, dummy. I've never even read Breitbart once. I certainly wouldn't use something I read on it as evidence for a search warrant. Everyone was wondering why the DOJ was so hysterical about no one seeing the affidavit. I guess this answers it.

Yeah, your probably right. They only kept redacted the least important stuff... and these very few unredacted parts are probably the only probable cause they had.

[saxitoxin]

For six years now you people have been screaming that Trump is days away from being arrested.

Every time your conspiracy theory blogs like the Palmer Report or Occupy Democrats make the claim you come running and yelping with glee. It never happens but, when they claim it again two months later, you come running and yelping once again, completely forgetting about the last 27 times he was days from arrest.

When you don't have information you fill in the gaps with wild theories of exotic conspiracies that MUST! MUST! be happening ... if only we knew! Case:

these very few unredacted parts are probably the only probable cause they had

You people are more wild than the whackiest QAnon supporter.

[saxitoxin]

If Harold Camping were still alive you'd be his devotees.

Camping is notorious for issuing a succession of failed predictions of dates for the End Times, which temporarily gained him a global following and millions of dollars of donations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Camping

If this were 1972 East Germany you'd be mindlessly cheering the Stasi (Secret Police) as they take down the opponents of the ruler Erich Honecker. But it's 2022 USA and you're mindlessly cheering the FBI (Secret Police) as they take down the opponents of the ruler Joe Biden.

But that's not the only history that repeats itself. All the finks and apologists will get their due when the Days of Revenge begin and we restart the National Reorganization Process.

Remember remember
The eighth of November
When the evil regime
We start to dismember

[jimboston]

… oh and yeah… you know what. they did find a lot of documents that shouldn’t have been in his possession.
Imagine that.

Green true. Red false.

The MSM, who have become mere scribes of the Secret Police who dutifully publish its leaks verbatim to keep their access flowing, would have people believe that the President needs to get permission from his own civil servants to declassify something. Nothing is further from the truth. All classification authority flows from the body of the President. This somewhat common sense position is affirmed in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan. [https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/484/518/] Scholars agree Trump had total declassification authority of anything and everything up until 12 p.m. on January 21, 2021.

Ashley Deeks, a law professor at the University of Virginia who until recently was deputy legal adviser to the National Security Council, said the laws and practices regarding classified information place a president in a somewhat unique position.

“Because the president himself is the ultimate classifying authority, it makes sense that agencies do not formally read presidents in to classified programs,” Deeks said. “In terms of former presidents, Congress itself has recognized in statute that former presidents would still have access to at least some of their records, though Congress also has made clear that former presidents do not own those records personally.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ied-legal/

The reason there was a sudden rush by the FBI to grab the documents is because Trump had threatened to publish them three weeks prior.

https://www.justsecurity.org/82723/trum ... documents/

One FBI staffer -- Kevin Clinesmith -- has already been convicted of falsifying evidence in regard to the Russiagate hoax. That's an absolute and undisputable fact. They're trying to save their bacon.

What a fucking joke. Not what you are saying… just you.

… but yeah what you’re trying to peddle is a joke too.

[mookiemcgee]

[saxitoxin]

MAGA WIN FOR DEMOCRACY AGAINST THE SECRET POLICE!

The U.S. District Court has agreed to Trump's request to appoint a Special Master in the case.

Recall the Magistrate, Rheinhart (former Epstein lawyer), in 2017 posted several wild anti Trump screeds on Facebook. He was considered so biased that he was forced to recuse himself in the 2020 Trump-Clinton lawsuit. But happily let himself collaborate with Biden's Secret Police on the politically motivated search.

Trump has petitioned for Rheinhart's bosses on the court to appoint a Special Master in the case and - again over DOJ objections - they have now agreed!

A Special Master in a criminal case p re charging is extremely unusual. This is all blowing up in Garland's face. We're looking at the very real possibility of this ending with the AGs disbarment. At the very least he's looking at getting sued to death in his personal capacity.

[mookiemcgee]

A Special Master in a criminal case p re charging is extremely unusual.

Yeah it's pretty unusual when former presidents are holding names of spies that turn up dead in their unlocked basement after repeated request from the government he return said documents.

[saxitoxin]

Judge Aileen Cannon's order to appoint a Special Master in the case to take over the vetting of all documents from the Biden Secret Police has been released. Judge Cannon -- a proud Latina immigrant (the Rats hate immigrants and Latinas) -- was named to the bench by President Trump so we know she's on the side of justice unlike the biased rat junior magistrate. Hopefully she appoints John Eastman as the Special Master.

Man, this is all collapsing faster than the last five investigations! I hope Biden and Garland have some Sub-Saharan hellhole already picked out they plan to flee to in 2025 when Trump Police come for them with handcuffs and leg irons to extract the revenge of the people. This attack must be repaid times ten.

[saxitoxin]

Mike Davis - Justice Neil Gorsuch's former law clerk - brings the receipts. Lying Biden is proved to be lying and must frogmarched out of office for politicizing the Secret Police and using them as his personal goon squad against his rivals. We can't wait for 2024.

A Special Master in a criminal case p re charging is extremely unusual.

Yeah it's pretty unusual when former presidents are holding names of spies that turn up dead in their unlocked basement after repeated request from the government he return said documents.

Rat intel committee member Swalwell spent six months fucking Chinese spy Fang Fang before she returned to Beijing with a chest full of U.S. secrets she got out of his sock drawer.

[jimboston]

A Special Master in a criminal case p re charging is extremely unusual.

Yeah it's pretty unusual when former presidents are holding names of spies that turn up dead in their unlocked basement after repeated request from the government he return said documents.

but she was a pretty and a woman… and so he wanted to f*ck her…

what’s wrong with that?

[mookiemcgee]

[jonesthecurl]

Simple. It's a trickle-down effect.

[riskllama]

I remember reading somewhere that it was the national archives that got this whole missing document thing rolling...*shrugs*

[saxitoxin]

MAGA News!

A federal judge has indicated senile Old Joe may not have authority to view any U.S. Government classified documents in Trump's possession, only Donald Trump has the authority to view these particular government documents. DOJ attorneys were left reeling! The judge also moved her chambers to a location closer to Mar A Lago so President Trump's staff would not be inconvenienced by the session and would be able to get in nine holes after court.* This is MAGA Country, Rats!

A federal judge indicated Thursday that she’s giving serious consideration to temporarily barring Justice Department investigators from reviewing material seized from Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.

...

Senior Justice Department attorney Jay Bratt repeatedly pleaded with Cannon, a Trump appointee, not to interrupt their ongoing criminal probe, emphasizing that the search warrant executed Aug. 8 was clearly valid and lawfully authorized to obtain “evidence of three significant federal crimes.”

...

Cannon usually sits at a federal courthouse in Fort Pierce, Fla., about an hour’s drive north of here. However, she elected to hold Thursday’s hearing at the older courthouse in West Palm Beach, about 3 miles from Trump’s Florida home which also doubles as a private club.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/0 ... t-00054521

Of course, the Rats could appeal any decisions ... to the Trump Supreme Court!



* referring to golf, not a mrswdk gangbang

[ConfederateSS]

---------OH SH*T ...I have the same Time Magazine in the box ,in the Floor Photo(F.B.I. made up) of Trump's raided home office....I got mine in the checkout line at Kroger...Come and get it ....F.B.I... ....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[saxitoxin]

Breaking: Department of Justice finds a trove of classified documents Biden illegally took with him after he left the vice-presidency in 2017. The documents were haphazardly intermingled with routine paperwork and stored in an unsecured, non-government office. Biden has not provided an answer as to why he was taking classified documents with him to a private office after leaving public service, nor has he denied that the documents contain sensitive nuclear weapons information.

A number of government documents marked classified were found this fall by lawyers for President Joe Biden in a closet in a Washington, D.C., office used by Biden when he was a private citizen. The Department of Justice and the National Archives and Records Administration are reviewing the circumstances surrounding the documents, according to Biden’s special counsel Richard Sauber. The documents were found nearly three months after the FBI raided the Mar-a-Lago residence of former President Donald Trump and found documents marked classified there.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/09/federal ... ffice.html

[jimboston]

Breaking: Department of Justice finds a trove of classified documents Biden illegally took with him after he left the vice-presidency in 2017. The documents were haphazardly intermingled with routine paperwork and stored in an unsecured, non-government office. Biden has not provided an answer as to why he was taking classified documents with him to a private office after leaving public service, nor has he denied that the documents contain sensitive nuclear weapons information.

A number of government documents marked classified were found this fall by lawyers for President Joe Biden in a closet in a Washington, D.C., office used by Biden when he was a private citizen. The Department of Justice and the National Archives and Records Administration are reviewing the circumstances surrounding the documents, according to Biden’s special counsel Richard Sauber. The documents were found nearly three months after the FBI raided the Mar-a-Lago residence of former President Donald Trump and found documents marked classified there.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/09/federal ... ffice.html

This isn’t great but there’s a difference…

- Biden’s lawyer found the documents and reported them and returned them.

- The documents Trump took were being looked for and requested by the Gov’t for months and they even issued a subpoena requesting the return. He denied having the documents. Then after months of denying he had them they issued a search warrant and found he did indeed have them and had been lying for months.

You will deny there is a difference… but even in YOUR perverted head you see the truth.

[saxitoxin]

Breaking: Department of Justice finds a trove of classified documents Biden illegally took with him after he left the vice-presidency in 2017. The documents were haphazardly intermingled with routine paperwork and stored in an unsecured, non-government office. Biden has not provided an answer as to why he was taking classified documents with him to a private office after leaving public service, nor has he denied that the documents contain sensitive nuclear weapons information.

A number of government documents marked classified were found this fall by lawyers for President Joe Biden in a closet in a Washington, D.C., office used by Biden when he was a private citizen. The Department of Justice and the National Archives and Records Administration are reviewing the circumstances surrounding the documents, according to Biden’s special counsel Richard Sauber. The documents were found nearly three months after the FBI raided the Mar-a-Lago residence of former President Donald Trump and found documents marked classified there.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/09/federal ... ffice.html

This isn’t great but there’s a difference…

Yes. In fact, there are actually several differences:

- Trump was in possession of classified documents for 14 months. Biden was in illegal possession of classified documents for 6 years.

- Trump was storing the documents in a locked room in a walled compound protected by 50 Secret Service agents and under CCTV surveillance. Biden was storing them in a broom closet on a college campus.

- There is an open question that Trump may have declassified the documents prior to removal. As VP, Biden had no such power so it's not even a question.

- Both document sets were discovered prior to the midterm election but the Secret Police (FBI) only publicly announced the Trump documents and waited until after the election to announce the Biden discovery.

I expect you will reach and stretch until you've identified a different set of differences to elevate that will cast Biden in a good light; as a good natured, doddering old man who made a minor clerical error and feels really bad about it.

[jimboston]

Like we said in the other thread…. you don’t believe in absolute “Truth” only in “Truth” that fits your predetermined worldview.

So no… K won;t waste my time pointing out how you are wrong.

At least JP4’s predetermined worldview isn’t a reverent homage to the most corrupt and self-serving part of the human psyche.

[saxitoxin]

Like we said in the other thread…. you don’t believe in absolute “Truth” only in “Truth” that fits your predetermined worldview.

Quote what I said that is factually incorrect.

So no… K won;t waste my time pointing out how you are wrong.

(Get Out of Jail Free Card)



The problem is that you believe absolute truth exists. As a social constructionist I realize there is no such thing. The lines of the state media that you're parroting are every much as factual as my post. They've chosen to emphasize one set of facts and deemphasize another to construct a certain reality; that of the good-natured, pitifully senile, old man who made an honest mistake and feels genuinely bad. I am doing the same with facts equally as valid but in service to a different reality. But you perceive the state media to be absolute, objective reality because they are cloaked in the costume of officialdom which is an intoxicating narcotic for the humans.

The majority of humans in dictatorships are dupes who think they're moderate free thinkers but who are unwittingly singing in the regime's Hallelujah Chorus. Jim is their diva.

[karel]

funny yseeing you snowflake nervous as fck,tyrump hadnothing and you all scared thet they going to nail hunter and joe to the floor,both guilty as hell,mostly joe for what they finding now,but the left thinks thats ok,funny how that shit works out,karma just bit you all in the ass,and im laughing all the way

[riskllama]

Breaking: Department of Justice finds a trove of classified documents Biden illegally took with him after he left the vice-presidency in 2017. The documents were haphazardly intermingled with routine paperwork and stored in an unsecured, non-government office. Biden has not provided an answer as to why he was taking classified documents with him to a private office after leaving public service, nor has he denied that the documents contain sensitive nuclear weapons information.

A number of government documents marked classified were found this fall by lawyers for President Joe Biden in a closet in a Washington, D.C., office used by Biden when he was a private citizen. The Department of Justice and the National Archives and Records Administration are reviewing the circumstances surrounding the documents, according to Biden’s special counsel Richard Sauber. The documents were found nearly three months after the FBI raided the Mar-a-Lago residence of former President Donald Trump and found documents marked classified there.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/09/federal ... ffice.html

This isn’t great but there’s a difference…

- Biden’s lawyer found the documents and reported them and returned them.

- The documents Trump took were being looked for and requested by the Gov’t for months and they even issued a subpoena requesting the return. He denied having the documents. Then after months of denying he had them they issued a search warrant and found he did indeed have them and had been lying for months.

You will deny there is a difference… but even in YOUR perverted head you see the truth.

agreed, jimbo - this is comparing apples to oranges.

[saxitoxin]

The regime is circling the wagons and is refusing to answer why Biden stole classified documents, why the Archives failed to disclose Biden had stolen classified documents before the midterms while they did disclose similar information about Trump, etc.

The White House Counsel’s Office would not answer why it failed for more than two months to publicly disclose that classified government documents had been found in a private office in Washington, D.C., that had been used by President Joe Biden before his election in 2020. Biden, during a meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at the North American Leaders’ Summit in Mexico, did not respond to a question from reporters about the documents, which were found by personal lawyers.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/10/biden-c ... iming.html

Interestingly, the broom closet Biden was storing the classified documents he stole in was in the same building as OAN, whom U.S. regime intelligence claims to be a Russian cutout. So Biden stole classified documents and then dumped them in an unlocked broom closet next to what his own people claim to be a Russian spy ring. In the Cold War they called that a dead drop.