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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby HitRed on Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:33 am

I never would have voted to impeach Obama for the same things.
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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby 2dimes on Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:38 am

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yes. any video of her performing some hawaiian dances?


Not bad for an old lady. Usually after around 26, eww.

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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby mrswdk on Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:40 am

2dimes wrote:Usually after around 26, eww.


lol.

a) As if anyone your age is going to turn down a 30 year-old
b) The womens usually stay pretty foxy well into their 30s IMO
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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby NomadPatriot on Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:44 am

after 26 they start going crazy... until around 40.. then they settle into life
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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby Evil Semp on Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:17 pm

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betiko wrote:i just don't understand you guys. regardless of your political stand point.... how can you be ok with your president using his presidential status for his own profits and to rig the next elections through foreign governments? how on earth can you be ok with that? Is he your uncle or something and you have to defend him whatever he does? Do you really think no one from the GOP could be a better president than this guy? this is really fascinating.


Well he didn't and even if did this is an exceptional situation that requires decisive action by the President. We are in a battle against a domestic enemy that seeks to subvert the nation; the constitution is not a suicide pact.


Decisive action? Why did it take three years to be so decisive? And by the way he did.
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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:18 pm

betiko wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Tulsi Gabbard is mighty fine.


yes. any video of her performing some hawaiian dances?


Best I could do was hindu wedding dance...

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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:58 pm

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betiko wrote:i just don't understand you guys. regardless of your political stand point.... how can you be ok with your president using his presidential status for his own profits and to rig the next elections through foreign governments? how on earth can you be ok with that? Is he your uncle or something and you have to defend him whatever he does? Do you really think no one from the GOP could be a better president than this guy? this is really fascinating.


Well he didn't and even if did this is an exceptional situation that requires decisive action by the President. We are in a battle against a domestic enemy that seeks to subvert the nation; the constitution is not a suicide pact.


Decisive action? Why did it take three years to be so decisive? And by the way he did.


One cuts off the head of hissing snakes first before destroying the slithering hatchlings in their nest. This is the Rats' last stand, final gambit. They'll lose again like they've lost before. And then they will resist no more.

Our great republic does not tolerate coups and backroom putschs. The Rats will not succeed in their effort to turn America into 1950s Paraguay.
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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby 2dimes on Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:19 pm

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2dimes wrote:Usually after around 26, eww.


lol.

a) As if anyone your age is going to turn down a 30 year-old
b) The womens usually stay pretty foxy well into their 30s IMO


Wrong. First, some women are anomalies like Rachel, Sofia or Margret. Most let themselves go or just age quicker, sometimes being thin makes it worse. Can I over look it, maybe, for a short period of time. Second, I like the idea of having sex but I did it enough, "at my age" you might turn down a perfect 10 if you're tired or there is something good on tv.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:58 am

Legal analysis by Bloomberg concludes that President Trump has not actually been impeached until the articles of impeachment are transmitted to the Senate. As of now, Pelosi has said she has no plans to send them to the Senate.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... -democrats

Further legal analysis concludes that the Senate has no obligation to try an impeachment, only that no one else can do so. And it confirms the Senate can hold any type of trial it fancies with no regard for established judicial procedures. It could even hold trial by combat.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-senate- ... hment-case
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby 2dimes on Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:26 am

No one cares about the president. We're talking about mature women now.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby NomadPatriot on Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:10 am

Pelosi sent Trump his standardized invitation to give his SOTU address in Feb...
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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:33 am

HitRed wrote:I never would have voted to impeach Obama for the same things.


Lol no way, and if it's true then you are an idiot. How can you be OK with a foreign government invited by your president to help him rig the next elections to benefit him? What kind of democracy accepts that? How can you not see it as an abuse of power? Mostly after all the dirt trump already had on him with the russian interventions and him trying to shut down all fbi investigations.
Do you really think trump adresses to the masses thinking he's talking to a bunch of ignorant sheep, or educated people with critical thinking? I would really be offended if I were american to be talked to as if I were a toddler. The truth is that he does act like a toddler all the time.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby HitRed on Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:24 am

agreeint with yourself doesn't make your assumptions true.

The best way to lose to Trump is to underestimate him.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby Evil Semp on Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:59 am

HitRed wrote:agreeint with yourself doesn't make your assumptions true.

The best way to lose to Trump is to underestimate him.



https://apnews.com/f53aeebcb0f64b76a2e2a54b2b002dad

TRUMP on Iran: “We gave them $150 billion and $1.8 billion and we got nothing. ... Look at what they did to John Kerry and to President Obama. Look what happened, where they’re bringing planeloads of cash, planeloads, big planes, 757s, Boeing 757s coming in loaded up with cash. What kind of a deal is that?” — news conference with Macron.

THE FACTS: It’s the kind of deal that did not actually take place.

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back.

The $1.8 billion refers to a separate matter, also misstated by the president going back to before the 2016 election.

A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU.

In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest.

The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later.

In Trump’s telling, one cargo plane with $400 million that was owed to Iran has become “big planes, 757s, Boeing 757s,” loaded with a $1.8 billion giveaway.
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Re: Trump Impeached - Senate to Acquit Momentarily

Postby jimboston on Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:28 am

mrswdk wrote:Tulsi Gabbard is mighty fine.


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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby jimboston on Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:34 am

saxitoxin wrote:President Trump was impeached in a narrow, partisan vote by the slimy DemocRats' conspiring in their steamy and odorous House of Representatives.

The august United States Senate has announced they will find him not guilty by acclamation and completely exonerate him of all charges shortly following a fair and speedy, three-minute trial (which is three minutes longer than this silliness warrants). Meanwhile, CNBC reports that Moody's Analytics has issued a predictive model that shows Trump will be "easily" re-elected in 2020.

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The title of your thread is factually incorrect. Please fix it.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:48 am

jimboston wrote:The title of your thread is factually incorrect. Please fix it.

Doesn't the House have to send the Articles over to the Senate for Impeachment to be Official and Final?
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:38 pm

that is not the attitude you must adopt Jd.

You didn't get the memo?
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:41 pm

Jdsizzleslice wrote:
jimboston wrote:The title of your thread is factually incorrect. Please fix it.

Doesn't the House have to send the Articles over to the Senate for Impeachment to be Official and Final?


Correct. One of the Rats' lawyers has even said as much.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:25 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:
jimboston wrote:The title of your thread is factually incorrect. Please fix it.

Doesn't the House have to send the Articles over to the Senate for Impeachment to be Official and Final?


Correct. One of the Rats' lawyers has even said as much.

So, as of right now, your Title isn't necessarily incorrect. I do expect you to change if the House sends the result to the Senate officially.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby mrswdk on Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:20 pm

Such a dumb move by the Dems attempting to impeach. Congress is controlled by the Republicans and so there was a 0% chance this would actually work, and there's no chance they'll make any political gains from this either.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:07 pm

mrswdk wrote:Such a dumb move by the Dems attempting to impeach. Congress is controlled by the Republicans and so there was a 0% chance this would actually work, and there's no chance they'll make any political gains from this either.

I don't think they had any choice. Trump's crimes are just so in-your-face blatant, the Dems were constantly under fire for not stepping up and doing something to stop him. I think they knew it was a doomed effort, but they just couldn't throw up their hands and not try.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby mrswdk on Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:15 pm

The US has a superior political system to China though.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:24 pm

mrswdk wrote:The US has a superior political system to China though.

Well, yeah.

In China, the president's crimes are not even allowable topics for discussion, much less for any actual sanction.
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Re: Trump NOT Impeached

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:30 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Such a dumb move by the Dems attempting to impeach. Congress is controlled by the Republicans and so there was a 0% chance this would actually work, and there's no chance they'll make any political gains from this either.

I don't think they had any choice. Trump's crimes are just so in-your-face blatant, the Dems were constantly under fire for not stepping up and doing something to stop him. I think they knew it was a doomed effort, but they just couldn't throw up their hands and not try.


Trump supposedly represents an absolute threat to democracy that is such an extreme emergency it can't wait a few months to an election so a drum-head impeachment was necessary ... and yet it's been four days and the Rats still haven't forwarded the articles of impeachment and have, in fact, announced they're all now going on a two-week holiday! :lol:

I'd love to see a fire department run by Rats! =D>

So either the Rats are utterly incompetent at basic governing (or even life skills like combing their hair or tying their shoes) and this is a return to the amateur hour days of Obama ... or they were just grandstanding all along to try to salvage their dismal 2020 election chances. Either is equally likely.
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