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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby NomadPatriot on Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:19 pm

jimboston wrote:
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jimboston wrote:Ok... watched these videos... but had to stop.

I agree with most of what this little girls is saying.

She didn’t write this shit though. So why do we all pretend she did?



who is pretending she did...?



So the comparison to Macaulay Culkin is more apt than it originally seemed... since she’s essentially an actor delivering someone else view and pretending it’s her own. Why do we can about this specific girl again?


because trees died to put her picture on the covers of a magazines & newspapers across the globe

Irony .. such a quandary indeed..
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby HitRed on Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:21 am

Turning so soon? greta plans to build a wall.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:49 am

jimboston wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:Ok... watched these videos... but had to stop.

I agree with most of what this little girls is saying.

She didn’t write this shit though. So why do we all pretend she did?



who is pretending she did...?



So the comparison to Macaulay Culkin is more apt than it originally seemed... since she’s essentially an actor delivering someone else view and pretending it’s her own. Why do we can about this specific girl again?


Because she's done a really good job of calling out governments on their do-nothing attitude toward global warming. 90% of the world's governments have done sweet f*ck all to address global warming, besides some trivial token measures. The people who were calling them out on it were getting no attention, while the only people to get attention were soft-pedaling it and saying mealy-mouthed things like "governments aren't doing enough" instead of "governments are doing pretty much f*ck all".

Greta is the first person to cross the line and do both, to actually call them out on their inaction and to get some major attention while doing so.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby spurgistan on Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:09 pm

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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby nietzsche on Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:26 pm

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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby NomadPatriot on Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:58 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
jimboston wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:Ok... watched these videos... but had to stop.

I agree with most of what this little girls is saying.

She didn’t write this shit though. So why do we all pretend she did?



who is pretending she did...?



So the comparison to Macaulay Culkin is more apt than it originally seemed... since she’s essentially an actor delivering someone else view and pretending it’s her own. Why do we can about this specific girl again?


Because she's done a really good job of calling out governments on their do-nothing attitude toward global warming. 90% of the world's governments have done sweet f*ck all to address global warming, besides some trivial token measures. The people who were calling them out on it were getting no attention, while the only people to get attention were soft-pedaling it and saying mealy-mouthed things like "governments aren't doing enough" instead of "governments are doing pretty much f*ck all".

Greta is the first person to cross the line and do both, to actually call them out on their inaction and to get some major attention while doing so.


and Europe listened.. by the time Greta is 47.. ( 2050....) the EU will be carbon neutral..
they said so...
her next stop is China.. ;)
… oh wait.. she wants to take a break after saying she wanted to put people "againist the wall"...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby jimboston on Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:08 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
jimboston wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:Ok... watched these videos... but had to stop.

I agree with most of what this little girls is saying.

She didn’t write this shit though. So why do we all pretend she did?



who is pretending she did...?



So the comparison to Macaulay Culkin is more apt than it originally seemed... since she’s essentially an actor delivering someone else view and pretending it’s her own. Why do we can about this specific girl again?


Because she's done a really good job of calling out governments on their do-nothing attitude toward global warming. 90% of the world's governments have done sweet f*ck all to address global warming, besides some trivial token measures. The people who were calling them out on it were getting no attention, while the only people to get attention were soft-pedaling it and saying mealy-mouthed things like "governments aren't doing enough" instead of "governments are doing pretty much f*ck all".

Greta is the first person to cross the line and do both, to actually call them out on their inaction and to get some major attention while doing so.


I’m not saying I disagree with what she read.

I agree with it.

I’m just saying she didn’t write it.

It’s sad we can’t believe our scientific community and they can’t get attention... but you have a young girl read something her mommy wrote, and now she’s Time’s Person of the Year? How about making some scientific team who actually has given us real data or provided real options that we still ignore??/
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby HitRed on Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:28 pm

Maybe 90% of the world's countries don't take climate change seriously because they...

1) Don't believe it
2) See it as another Western Imperial power grab
3) Don't like screaming teenagers
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby mrswdk on Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:46 am

jb: why are we acting as if she wrote these speeches herself?
NP: no one is
jb: so why do we care about her?
Duk: because she's actually managed to bring some attention to the climate emergency
jb: but she didn't write her speeches herself

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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:17 am

HitRed wrote:Maybe 90% of the world's countries don't take climate change seriously because they...

1) Don't believe it
2) See it as another Western Imperial power grab
3) Don't like screaming teenagers


None of those are legitimate answers.

There are some very real reasons.
First: the main losers are all loser countries already (I believe the politically correct term is "shithole" countries). The only economic powerhouse that will struggle with global warming is Singapore.
Second: if a country pays into greener technologies, then that puts it at an economic disadvantage versus those countries which do not. I fully support Canada going all-green because I want the economy to crash so that immigrants stop invading us, but I'm an outlier. Most people want the economy to grow.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:22 am

mrswdk wrote:jb: why are we acting as if she wrote these speeches herself?
NP: no one is
jb: so why do we care about her?
Duk: because she's actually managed to bring some attention to the climate emergency
jb: but she didn't write her speeches herself

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ma'am cannot even quote me correctly.. the European needs to change what her opponents said in order to try to control the narrative
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:56 am

jimboston wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
jimboston wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:Ok... watched these videos... but had to stop.

I agree with most of what this little girls is saying.

She didn’t write this shit though. So why do we all pretend she did?



who is pretending she did...?



So the comparison to Macaulay Culkin is more apt than it originally seemed... since she’s essentially an actor delivering someone else view and pretending it’s her own. Why do we can about this specific girl again?


Because she's done a really good job of calling out governments on their do-nothing attitude toward global warming. 90% of the world's governments have done sweet f*ck all to address global warming, besides some trivial token measures. The people who were calling them out on it were getting no attention, while the only people to get attention were soft-pedaling it and saying mealy-mouthed things like "governments aren't doing enough" instead of "governments are doing pretty much f*ck all".

Greta is the first person to cross the line and do both, to actually call them out on their inaction and to get some major attention while doing so.


I’m not saying I disagree with what she read.

I agree with it.

I’m just saying she didn’t write it.

I have no special knowledge of Greta. A quick Google tells me that she has explicitly denied this theory of her speeches being written for her.
https://www.good.is/everyone-needs-to-read-greta-thunbergs-responses-to-the-rumors-and-lies-about-her

Maybe you know something that I don't. To me, it makes no difference. If she wrote the speeches, great. If she didn't write the speeches, still great. JFK's famous speeches were written by Ted Sorensen and Ronald Reagan's famous speeches were written by Peggy Noonan. Did that make them less impactful?

So, what little I've read suggests that she does, in fact, write her own material. But even if she doesn't, it changes nothing. She has great delivery.

jimboston wrote:It’s sad we can’t believe our scientific community and they can’t get attention... but you have a young girl read something her mommy wrote, and now she’s Time’s Person of the Year? How about making some scientific team who actually has given us real data or provided real options that we still ignore??/

Sure it's sad, but it's just the human condition. We respond better to emotion than to logic. Scientists are logical, so nobody cares about them. Most of our advancements are due to science, but how many scientists have ever been famous? Archimedes, Darwin, Einstein? Three in 5,000 years? A well-read person might be able to name a few more -- Linus Pauling, Newton, Mendel, Oppenheimer -- but I doubt if any one who's not a science buff or an actual science major could name more than 10. Hell, I was a science major, and I'm having a hard time pulling the names out of cold storage.

Time doesn't decide who the public will fall in love with. They just report it.

Remember The Fountainhead?
Ayn Rand wrote:The first campaign of the Banner was an appeal for money for a charitable cause. Displayed side by side, with an equal amount of space, the Banner ran two stories: one about a struggling young scientist, starving in a garret, working on a great invention; the other about a chambermaid, the sweetheart of an executed murderer, awaiting the birth of her illegitimate child. One story was illustrated with scientific diagrams; the other-with the picture of a loose- mouthed girl wearing a tragic expression and disarranged clothes. The Banner asked its readers to help both these unfortunates. It received nine dollars and forty-five cents for the young scientist; it received one thousand and seventy-seven dollars for the unwed mother.

Gail Wynand called a meeting of his staff. He put down on the table the paper carrying both stories and the money collected for both funds. "Is there anyone here who doesn't understand?" he asked. No one answered. He said: "Now you all know the kind of paper the Banner is to be."
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby mrswdk on Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:59 am

lol, Ayn Rand. I think I liked her when I was like 20 years old and a rabid libertarian.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:02 am

NomadPatriot wrote:ma'am cannot even quote me correctly.. the European needs to change what her opponents said in order to try to control the narrative

This shtick where people paraphrase what you said and you accuse them of misquoting you just because they didn't get it word-for-word is getting really stale.

If it needs to be explicitly stated, a paraphrase is a legitimate type of quoting.
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/anderson/quotation.htm
When you paraphrase, you must entirely reword material taken from a source, without using quotation marks. You may use the source’s words as long as you do not use more than two in a row from any passage. Sometimes you will hear a higher limit such as seven or thirteen words, but if you never use more than two words in a row you will always avoid violating any higher limit. Common sense applies here. If you are writing about the war on terrorism, you may freely mention President Bush, Osama Bin Laden, al Qaeda, Baghdad, 9/11, Iraq, neo-conservatives, Noam Chomsky, Afghanistan, radical Islam, homeland security, and other names or terms without quotation marks even when the source uses the same names and terms. But you must avoid replicating the style, order of presentation, and other wording of the source.

There is good reason to require you to paraphrase: anybody can copy without understanding. In order to copy from the original, even when quoting, you need not understand the meaning of the original. We don’t ask you to write essays in order to find out what your readings say; although we sometimes learn from your spotting passages that we have not noticed, we ask you to write essays in order to give you, not us, the opportunity to learn. If you just copy, neither you nor we acquire any evidence that you have learned. Don’t be afraid that your paraphrase expresses a slightly different thought than the original. Whenever you reword, you change the idea at least slightly. That is fine. The original doesn’t have any single exact meaning that you can reproduce precisely. Writing is horseshoes; close counts.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:03 am

mrswdk wrote:lol, Ayn Rand. I think I liked her when I was like 20 years old and a rabid libertarian.

Ditto. Although, I continue to like her as a novelist, even though I no longer agree with her ideas.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby HitRed on Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:12 am



I used to hang out with a group that thought she hung the moon.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby mrswdk on Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:14 am

@Duk Init.

What's up with you guys bagging on about how no one knows scientists, btw? Other than there being plenty more well-known scientists (Marie Curie, Louis Pasteur, Alexander Fleming, Steven Hawking, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Galileo, Alexander Graham Bell.. I'm bored but I could go on) why would you expect anyone to be able to name that many scientists from hundreds of years ago? It's not like people can name loads of musicians, poets or explorers from back then either.

The only people who really get consistently remembered are heads of state.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby nietzsche on Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:59 am

Mets told me he jerks off to Greta
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby mrswdk on Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:06 pm

She looks kinda sour and tired but probably does have quite a tight little hiney tbf.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:18 pm

mrswdk wrote:She looks kinda sour and tired but probably does have quite a tight little hiney tbf.


Ma'am is saying this about a 16 year old little girl…. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby mrswdk on Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:32 pm

Age of consent in Sweden is 15 and in the UK it's 16.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:53 pm

mrswdk wrote:Age of consent in Sweden is 15 and in the UK it's 16.


too you.. that makes it ok.... :? :?
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby mrswdk on Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:59 pm

NomadCopyPasteriot knows better than the governments of the UK and Sweden.
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:06 pm

mrswdk wrote:NomadCopyPasteriot knows better than the governments of the UK and Sweden.


I know any grown adult who says a 16 year probably has a "tight little hiney" & their excuse for saying it is ' the age of consent is 15'.. has borderline pedo issues
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Re: Greta deflect's Biff's tantrum

Postby tzor on Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:25 pm

mrswdk wrote:Ayn Rand. I think I liked her when I was like 20 years old and a rabid libertarian.


I was always a William F. Buckley Jr. fan. ;)
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