British Diplomats Commit Serious Crimes Abroad

[mrswdk]

NP didn't you already start two dedicated race baiting threads? This thread is for discussing the imminent return to the UK of fugitive killer Anne Sacoolas:

[NomadPatriot]

NP didn't you already start two dedicated race baiting threads? This thread is for discussing the imminent return to the UK of fugitive killer Anne Sacoolas:

so you have no problem with this thread being titled "British Diplomats".. but if I say 'Chinese Woman'.. then I am Race Baiting..

ok .. gotcha..

because the Nationality of British isn't a race and isn't Race Baiting.. ( obvious concept)
but the Nationality of Chinese is a Race & Is Race Baiting. ( delusional concept )

because .. according to you. .if you describe someone's Nationality. then you are a Race Baiting...

you created a thread titled ' White People" and you never considered it Race Baiting
but if I create a thread titled ' Latino People" and you think it is Race Baiting..
because your own standards do not apply to you..

[mrswdk]

The New York Post has joined the chorus of voices demanding that this fugitive killer be returned to the UK and prosecuted:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/07/the-us-sh ... -sacoolas/

As has internationally renowned trial lawyer Geoffrey Robertson, quoted by Bloomberg:

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... -real-test

[saxitoxin]

No chance she's returning to the UK.

Latest reports indicate her husband was the NSA station chief responsible for intercepting communications between government ministers, and between members of the royal houshold. No earthly way she'll get a fair trial with Geoffrey Cox realizing her husband was listening in to his bedroom chat. Her entire family is probably already at a new home on a former plantation estate in Beauregard Parish, Louisiana, guarded by men in Adidas track suits. Lady is gone forever.

In a couple weeks a solicitor from a low-price, sleazy law firm well outside London will show-up to the victim's family's home with the promise of a $100K/year annuity from an anonymous benefactor if they stop talking publicly.

[jimboston]

I honestly know nothing about the case.... except one thing.

I know it’s very unlikely the US will waive diplomatic immunity.

Even though it’s the UK... it sets a bad precedent, and it’s not going to happen.

The news media will stop talking about his within a fortnight, and everyone expect the people involved directly will forget about it shortly thereafter.

[Dukasaur]

I honestly know nothing about the case.... except one thing.

I know it’s very unlikely the US will waive diplomatic immunity.

Even though it’s the UK... it sets a bad precedent, and it’s not going to happen.

The news media will stop talking about his within a fortnight, and everyone expect the people involved directly will forget about it shortly thereafter.

+1

[jimboston]

... from CNN

The US State Department told CNN Saturday that diplomatic immunity is "rarely waived."
"Any questions regarding a waiver of immunity with regard to our diplomats and their family members overseas in a case like this receive intense attention at senior levels and are considered carefully given the global impact such decisions carry," it added.
The US Embassy in London refused to comment on the identity of the suspect for privacy and security reasons.

This was manslaughter, and accident... not a murder. No one gets jail time for a first offense like this unless alcohol was involved.

I’m not saying this exonerates her... but they’re not going to waive immunity for what we is the US would call “Vehicular Homicide”.

In the UK it appears to be called “Causing Death by Dangerous Driving”...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causing ... us_driving

If she waived immunity theoretically she could get up to 14years, if convicted of the most serious offense...but with money and lawyers it’s unlikely.

it’s moot, because she’s immune anyway and no way that’s getting waived.

... US won’t waive it and UK won’t push.

... and oh calling the 19yo a “child’ is kinda off.

[saxitoxin]

Ambassador Johnson has officially tweeted his regrets. The case is now closed.

[NomadPatriot]

in all seriousness though.. it's 2019..
does any country really want to prove that women are horrible drivers…?

[mrswdk]

Ambassador Johnson has officially tweeted his regrets. The case is now closed.

American diplomats and their families clearly cannot be trusted to abide by a nation’s laws or respect that nation’s people. Countries of the world should begin expelling these bullying criminals immediately.

[NomadPatriot]

Ambassador Johnson has officially tweeted his regrets. The case is now closed.

American diplomats and their families clearly cannot be trusted to abide by a nation’s laws or respect that nation’s people. Countries of the world should begin expelling these bullying criminals immediately.

but they are abiding by the nations laws genius...

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Diplomatic immunity law

Diplomatic immunity, in international law, the immunities enjoyed by foreign states or international organizations and their official representatives from the jurisdiction of the country in which they are present.

[saxitoxin]

Ambassador Johnson has officially tweeted his regrets. The case is now closed.

American diplomats and their families clearly cannot be trusted to abide by a nation’s laws or respect that nation’s people. Countries of the world should begin expelling these bullying criminals immediately.

I said ...

the case is CLOSED

[mrswdk]

Ambassador Johnson has officially tweeted his regrets. The case is now closed.

American diplomats and their families clearly cannot be trusted to abide by a nation’s laws or respect that nation’s people. Countries of the world should begin expelling these bullying criminals immediately.

I said ...

the case is CLOSED

A map of how far mentally deranged US killer Anne Sacoolas drove on the wrong side of the road before driving head first into unsuspecting victim Harry Dunn:



As details emerge of the special bilateral deal that grant diplomatic immunity to US staff outside of London as well as in the capital, calls grow for the UK to cancel this exploitative and clearly fugitive-harbouring piece of legislation:

https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/06/special- ... -10872429/

[NomadPatriot]

Ambassador Johnson has officially tweeted his regrets. The case is now closed.

American diplomats and their families clearly cannot be trusted to abide by a nation’s laws or respect that nation’s people. Countries of the world should begin expelling these bullying criminals immediately.

I said ...

the case is CLOSED

A map of how far mentally deranged US killer Anne Sacoolas drove on the wrong side of the road before driving head first into unsuspecting victim Harry Dunn:



As details emerge of the special bilateral deal that grant diplomatic immunity to US staff outside of London as well as in the capital, calls grow for the UK to cancel this exploitative and clearly fugitive-harbouring piece of legislation:

https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/06/special- ... -10872429/

you can try fighting the Diplomatic Immunity Law if you want.. there is only 1 outcome:

[mrswdk]

On the contrary, plenty of law-respecting countries have previously waived diplomatic immunity when such serious crimes have been committed.

Colombia: two diplomatic staff's immunity was waived after they were implicated in (and later convicted of) a killing in London http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2284320.stm

Japan: waived diplomatic immunity after one of its diplomatic staff abused his wife https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/wife-bea ... e-1.188071

Malaysia: sends attempted rapist back to New Zealand to be jailed for his crimes https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... sault.html

America: tries to claim diplomatic immunity for a CIA contractor guilty of murdering three Pakistani civilians, who is only punished because the Pakistani government ignored US lies and detained him anyway https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/17/worl ... e=REGIWALL

[saxitoxin]

The woman was driving her car on the right side of the road which is the correct side in the United States. Therefore, no American law was broken.

The British government is at-fault for having roads that are unfamiliar to motorists from any other decent place in the world.

[saxitoxin]

The lane markings on that street look like they were painted by an Italian impressionist artist. No wonder no one can figure out which way to go. It's just a huge mess of triangles, polygons, straight lines, dashed lines, random diagonal lines, etc.

[jimboston]

On the contrary, plenty of law-respecting countries have previously waived diplomatic immunity when such serious crimes have been committed.

Colombia: two diplomatic staff's immunity was waived after they were implicated in (and later convicted of) a killing in London http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2284320.stm

Japan: waived diplomatic immunity after one of its diplomatic staff abused his wife https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/wife-bea ... e-1.188071

Malaysia: sends attempted rapist back to New Zealand to be jailed for his crimes https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... sault.html

These are all intentional.

Also, I’m sure political considerations were a factor.

The US would weight political considerations too... but I don’t see UK pushing this one.

If you can get UK to boycott all American products and restrict Passport/Visa privileges... maybe the US will reconsider.

[saxitoxin]

We got one!

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=231503

[NomadPatriot]

honestly.. she is pretty hot..

[mrswdk]

US government including Donald Trump announces it doesn't care about the killing of non-US nationals and will continue to harbour fugitive murderer Anne Sacoolas:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-n ... e-49995867

[saxitoxin]

US government including Donald Trump announces it doesn't care about the killing of non-US nationals and will continue to harbour fugitive murderer Anne Sacoolas:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-n ... e-49995867

Oh well. Anyway, who do you all think is going to win [upcoming sporting match]?

[mrswdk]

Tonga will definitely beat the USA in their final rugby world cup group fixture, glad you asked

[NomadPatriot]

the 6 most ridiculous abuses of Diplomatic Immunity


#1) OK, so we mentioned Lethal Weapon 2 earlier, and no doubt some of you immediately were looking for examples of diplomats flat out committing murder and getting off due to their immunity. The answer is that yes, it has happened


Take the Libyan embassy worker in London who, in April 1984, decided to open fire at a mob of anti-Gadhafi protesters outside his embassy, fatally wounding a police officer and injuring 10 others. The police laid siege to the embassy for 11 days, at which point the government stepped in, allowed the ambassador and his staff to leave the premises -- and promptly kicked them out of the country, with a nice long f*ck you to take back to Gadhafi. The countries' diplomatic relations were torn apart, but no one was ever convicted of the shootings.

But the Abusing Diplomatic Immunity Cake goes to the batshit insane Burmese ambassador to Sri Lanka, who found out in 1979 that his wife was having an affair, so he shot her.

In a totally diplomatic way.

Then he built a f*cking funeral pyre in his yard -- which was legally Burmese soil -- and burned his wife's body in full view of the press and the police, who were unable to do anything because of his immunity.

Not only was the man never convicted of the crime, but he actually remained the Burmese ambassador.

https://www.cracked.com/article_19591_6-most-ridiculous-abuses-diplomatic-immunity.html

[jimboston]

US government including Donald Trump announces it doesn't care about the killing of non-US nationals and will continue to harbour fugitive murderer Anne Sacoolas:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-n ... e-49995867

I read the article and I couldn’t find the quote where Trump announces he doesn’t care about the death of this 19yo man.

Also, killing has a different connotation than accidental death.... was that intentional?